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(05-08-2013 04:29 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

I'm sorry, What?

SEC has good baseball, but better than the ACC? Nope.
What else does it have that's so much better? Here are 3 of the more popular olympic sports:

Wrestling? Nope. Not offered.
Lax? Nope. Not offered.
Men's soccer? Nope. Not offered.

I would put the ACC's non-football sports at #1 overall, followed by the B1G. Is the SEC even #3?

How many NCAA national championships were won by ACC schools in 2011-12? What about 2010-11? As Casey Stengel would say, "You could look it up."

2011-12 NCAA National Champions

2010-11 NCAA National Champions

Which conference won the most national titles in both of those years? Hint: It's neither the ACC nor the SEC.

Looked to me like it was SEC in 2011-12 with 9 vs. 8 for Pac 12. Alabama had a great year. Did you have a different count?
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(05-08-2013 11:46 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  That isn't how it would work. ESPN would say to COX, if your customers want ESPNU you have to buy ESPNSEC and ESPNACC from us too or not get any of the three. This will be forced on the cable companies, not the consumer. They never have had a say in what channels get grouped together.

Look, i know there are some dumb hicks in louisiana, but it wouldn't take even the dumbest more than about 10 seconds to figure out that someone, ESPN or the cable company, was trying to force them to buy the ACCN as a condition of buying the SECN. And there would be rioting. 07-coffee3

If they have cable, they do it now.

Most of us have cable, and nobody forces us to buy the ACCN in order to buy the SECN. That would be viewed completely differently than forcing us to buy the Discovery channel in order to get your TBS.

I remember a couple years ago when COX proposed adding the BTN down here. There was an immediate uproar about louisiana money going to support the Big Ten, and it didn't happen.

Maybe, I am sure they will do what makes them the most money. They could care less if their is rioting in La. Especially if it is reciprocal in ACC states like NY, Pa Va, NC.

Do you seriously think NY and PA are ACC states? The level of ACC delusion around here is stunning.
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(05-08-2013 03:57 PM)Cardinals Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

I'm sorry, What?

SEC has good baseball, but better than the ACC? Nope.
What else does it have that's so much better? Here are 3 of the more popular olympic sports:

Wrestling? Nope. Not offered.
Lax? Nope. Not offered.
Men's soccer? Nope. Not offered.

I would put the ACC's non-football sports at #1 overall, followed by the B1G. Is the SEC even #3?
how many titles have SEC baseball teams won vs ACC teams recently?

also- women's hoops SEC is better. gymnastics SEC is much better.

And just overall:
SEC right now has 3 schools outside the top 51 in overall athletic programs.
ACC right now has 5 schools outside the top 51 and is picking up a 6th in Pittsburgh.
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(05-08-2013 12:24 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 11:46 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  That isn't how it would work. ESPN would say to COX, if your customers want ESPNU you have to buy ESPNSEC and ESPNACC from us too or not get any of the three. This will be forced on the cable companies, not the consumer. They never have had a say in what channels get grouped together.

Look, i know there are some dumb hicks in louisiana, but it wouldn't take even the dumbest more than about 10 seconds to figure out that someone, ESPN or the cable company, was trying to force them to buy the ACCN as a condition of buying the SECN. And there would be rioting. 07-coffee3

If they have cable, they do it now.

Most of us have cable, and nobody forces us to buy the ACCN in order to buy the SECN. That would be viewed completely differently than forcing us to buy the Discovery channel in order to get your TBS.

I remember a couple years ago when COX proposed adding the BTN down here. There was an immediate uproar about louisiana money going to support the Big Ten, and it didn't happen.

So, you are saying that LSU doesn't want any money from NY, NC, VA, or PA? Marketing the channels together means getting the SEC channel on in those states. Seems like cutting off you nose to spite your face, particularly because Louisiana by itself is not a critical market.

I am saying that under no circumstances and in no places will the SEC want buying the SECN conditioned on buying the ACCN.

As for louisiana, the attitude here is representative of the attitude throughout the south. And if LA is not a critical market, why could LSU join any conference it wanted tomorrow? LSU is purely a manifestation of the Louisiana market, home to some of the most rabid fans and as fertile a recruiting ground as anywhere.
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(05-08-2013 11:59 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  The decision as to whether to bundle these networks together will be a financial one. Whatever makes the most money will be the method chosen and "conference pride" will not be a consideration.

The biggest argument I see against bundling them is ESPN wants the SEC Network to be on the same tier as ESPN and ESPN 2 in the 11 state SEC footprint. Obviously, the ACC Network will shoot for the same goal in its footprint. The battleground states of Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Kentucky are the only places I see both networks having a chance of being on that tier together.

If the goal is to get ESPNU level coverage everywhere then there is a greater chance they will be bundled together.

Georgia and Florids are not 'battleground' states. They are SEC states. 07-coffee3

So you don't believe the ACC network will get the same coverage in those states the SEC network gets?

I believe that the SECN will get far more subscribers than the ACCN in those states.
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(05-08-2013 03:57 PM)Cardinals Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

I'm sorry, What?

SEC has good baseball, but better than the ACC? Nope.
What else does it have that's so much better? Here are 3 of the more popular olympic sports:

Wrestling? Nope. Not offered.
Lax? Nope. Not offered.
Men's soccer? Nope. Not offered.

I would put the ACC's non-football sports at #1 overall, followed by the B1G. Is the SEC even #3?

The SEC has 9 baseball national titles, the ACC has 1, and that was in 1955.
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RE: ESPN Kristi Dosh on Tim Brando Show about ACC Network..
(05-08-2013 04:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 12:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:59 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  The decision as to whether to bundle these networks together will be a financial one. Whatever makes the most money will be the method chosen and "conference pride" will not be a consideration.

The biggest argument I see against bundling them is ESPN wants the SEC Network to be on the same tier as ESPN and ESPN 2 in the 11 state SEC footprint. Obviously, the ACC Network will shoot for the same goal in its footprint. The battleground states of Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Kentucky are the only places I see both networks having a chance of being on that tier together.

If the goal is to get ESPNU level coverage everywhere then there is a greater chance they will be bundled together.

Georgia and Florids are not 'battleground' states. They are SEC states. 07-coffee3

So you don't believe the ACC network will get the same coverage in those states the SEC network gets?

I believe that the SECN will get far more subscribers than the ACCN in those states.

South Carolina no. That state is split pretty evenly and I still think there is a Clemson lean.

Georgia yes. They love their dawgs. GT will get some love though.

Kentucky yes but the gap is closing. Louisville has the #1 TV market for college basketball. There are more are more Cardinal fans popping up since Pitino came back to town.

Florida yes but barely. FSU + Miami probably has close to the same following as UF. If Miami gets their act together the combo will pass UF.
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(05-08-2013 12:11 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 11:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 AM)samandrea Wrote:  If there is an ACC network, that is what espn will do. IF you want espnu, you have to get all of our college networks. Not necessarily on the appeal of the SEC, just makes good business to be able to charge for 3 networks when people may just want one or two.

Trust me, if COX cable, at ESPN's behest, tries to tell its customers in Louisiana that if they want to watch LSU on the SECN they have to buy the ACCN too, there will be rioting.

That isn't how it would work. ESPN would say to COX, if your customers want ESPNU you have to buy ESPNSEC and ESPNACC from us too or not get any of the three. This will be forced on the cable companies, not the consumer. They never have had a say in what channels get grouped together.

Look, i know there are some dumb hicks in louisiana, but it wouldn't take even the dumbest more than about 10 seconds to figure out that someone, ESPN or the cable company, was trying to force them to buy the ACCN as a condition of buying the SECN. And there would be rioting. 07-coffee3

Lol, are you five?

The SEC has no formal say in how this is sold to distributors. ESPN owns it, as in 100 percent. The SEC are tenants in their apartment complex. ESPN will sell this - along with the ACC Network, the Longhorn Network and any other channel they come up with - how the best see fit. Packaging these together is pretty basic negotiating.

Do you have cable or satellite? If so, you probably pay for the Oprah network. Same for Lifetime. Do you get ESPN? If so, you're already paying the ACC....and the Big Ten....and the Big 12....and MLS, the English Premier League, the WNBA and Skip Bayless.

Neither of us knows whether the SECN contract permits the ESPN to bundle it with an ACCN. If it does the SEC is really stupid, allowing the ACC to make money on demand for its far more desirable network.
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(05-08-2013 04:43 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 03:57 PM)Cardinals Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

I'm sorry, What?

SEC has good baseball, but better than the ACC? Nope.
What else does it have that's so much better? Here are 3 of the more popular olympic sports:

Wrestling? Nope. Not offered.
Lax? Nope. Not offered.
Men's soccer? Nope. Not offered.

I would put the ACC's non-football sports at #1 overall, followed by the B1G. Is the SEC even #3?
how many titles have SEC baseball teams won vs ACC teams recently?

also- women's hoops SEC is better. gymnastics SEC is much better.

And just overall:
SEC right now has 3 schools outside the top 51 in overall athletic programs.
ACC right now has 5 schools outside the top 51 and is picking up a 6th in Pittsburgh.

It isn't hard to be better in gymnastics than the ACC since the ACC doesn't sponsor the sport.

You are getting pretty desperate lately. Let me play the arbitrary cutoff game too.
Overall:
SEC right now has 8 schools outside of the top 37
ACC has 5 and is adding a 6th with Pitt
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RE: ESPN Kristi Dosh on Tim Brando Show about ACC Network..
(05-08-2013 04:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 03:57 PM)Cardinals Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

I'm sorry, What?

SEC has good baseball, but better than the ACC? Nope.
What else does it have that's so much better? Here are 3 of the more popular olympic sports:

Wrestling? Nope. Not offered.
Lax? Nope. Not offered.
Men's soccer? Nope. Not offered.

I would put the ACC's non-football sports at #1 overall, followed by the B1G. Is the SEC even #3?

The SEC has 9 baseball national titles, the ACC has 1, and that was in 1955.

Best all around sports conference depends on what you like as a fan. Objectively, it's the Pac 12. They have more titles than anyone. However, they have a lot of titles a lot of us don't care about (i.e.water polo, etc). Then it also depends on the year. SEC and ACC baseball are good. Pac 12 baseball is good. SEC basketball stinks right now. ACC basketball (both men and women) will be really good. Pac 12 basketball will be so-so. ACC lacrosse is best....soccer is outstanding. So trying to decide who is the best all around changes based on your sports preferences.
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(05-08-2013 04:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 12:21 PM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 12:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:59 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  The decision as to whether to bundle these networks together will be a financial one. Whatever makes the most money will be the method chosen and "conference pride" will not be a consideration.

The biggest argument I see against bundling them is ESPN wants the SEC Network to be on the same tier as ESPN and ESPN 2 in the 11 state SEC footprint. Obviously, the ACC Network will shoot for the same goal in its footprint. The battleground states of Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Kentucky are the only places I see both networks having a chance of being on that tier together.

If the goal is to get ESPNU level coverage everywhere then there is a greater chance they will be bundled together.

Georgia and Florids are not 'battleground' states. They are SEC states. 07-coffee3

01-wingedeagle

Do you seriously doubt that there are 10x more SEC fans in those states than ACC fans? 03-lmfao

YES! I doubt that there are 10 times as many SEC fans in Florida as Acc fans. That is a RIDICULOUS statement In fact, an argument can be made that Miami and FSU brings more fan interest in Florida than UFlorida. I am a native Floridian and I spend alot of time in Florida.
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(05-08-2013 04:55 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 04:22 PM)fsugrad99 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 12:11 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:46 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:43 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Trust me, if COX cable, at ESPN's behest, tries to tell its customers in Louisiana that if they want to watch LSU on the SECN they have to buy the ACCN too, there will be rioting.

That isn't how it would work. ESPN would say to COX, if your customers want ESPNU you have to buy ESPNSEC and ESPNACC from us too or not get any of the three. This will be forced on the cable companies, not the consumer. They never have had a say in what channels get grouped together.

Look, i know there are some dumb hicks in louisiana, but it wouldn't take even the dumbest more than about 10 seconds to figure out that someone, ESPN or the cable company, was trying to force them to buy the ACCN as a condition of buying the SECN. And there would be rioting. 07-coffee3

Lol, are you five?

The SEC has no formal say in how this is sold to distributors. ESPN owns it, as in 100 percent. The SEC are tenants in their apartment complex. ESPN will sell this - along with the ACC Network, the Longhorn Network and any other channel they come up with - how the best see fit. Packaging these together is pretty basic negotiating.

Do you have cable or satellite? If so, you probably pay for the Oprah network. Same for Lifetime. Do you get ESPN? If so, you're already paying the ACC....and the Big Ten....and the Big 12....and MLS, the English Premier League, the WNBA and Skip Bayless.

Neither of us knows whether the SECN contract permits the ESPN to bundle it with an ACCN. If it does the SEC is really stupid, allowing the ACC to make money on demand for its far more desirable network.

Guys, we've got us a live one!

ESPN pays the SEC X amount of money for the TV rights, in this case it's profit sharing.

What ESPN chooses to do with their own network is up to them.

I mean, really, do you need like, a visual aid?
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(05-08-2013 04:54 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 04:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 03:38 PM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 12:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:59 AM)WakeForestRanger Wrote:  The decision as to whether to bundle these networks together will be a financial one. Whatever makes the most money will be the method chosen and "conference pride" will not be a consideration.

The biggest argument I see against bundling them is ESPN wants the SEC Network to be on the same tier as ESPN and ESPN 2 in the 11 state SEC footprint. Obviously, the ACC Network will shoot for the same goal in its footprint. The battleground states of Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and Kentucky are the only places I see both networks having a chance of being on that tier together.

If the goal is to get ESPNU level coverage everywhere then there is a greater chance they will be bundled together.

Georgia and Florids are not 'battleground' states. They are SEC states. 07-coffee3

So you don't believe the ACC network will get the same coverage in those states the SEC network gets?

I believe that the SECN will get far more subscribers than the ACCN in those states.

South Carolina no. That state is split pretty evenly and I still think there is a Clemson lean.

Georgia yes. They love their dawgs. GT will get some love though.

Kentucky yes but the gap is closing. Louisville has the #1 TV market for college basketball. There are more are more Cardinal fans popping up since Pitino came back to town.

Florida yes but barely. FSU + Miami probably has close to the same following as UF. If Miami gets their act together the combo will pass UF.

Whether a state is an "SEC" or "ACC" state is much more than the sheer number of alumni or fans of particular schools. E.g., Florida is an SEC state not just because of the volume of UF fans, but because the whole football culture is SEC-oriented. Casual fans of football across the state care about and follow the SEC but care nothing about the ACC.

Even most FSU care little to nothing about the ACC and would much rather be in the SEC. There are far, far more people who follow SEC football in Florida, and in Georgia, than who follow ACC football. This is also true in Kentucky and South Carolina.
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Not getting too deep into the conversation that has already gone 8 pages but the moment the FSU Board Chairman Mr Haggard chimed in with his usual up front candor about how Swofford made promises about the ACC Network, I assumed it was pretty much going to happen. How well it would do would still be up in the air but you do not fly up and down the East Coast meeting with god knows how many single individuals and promising them to their face that the ACC Network is coming IF it is not pretty much in the works.

IF Swofford did that and it fell through, he would be gone. Swofford may not be the Best Commish but he certainly capable enough to have his cards in order.
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(05-08-2013 04:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 04:29 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 03:57 PM)Cardinals Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

I'm sorry, What?

SEC has good baseball, but better than the ACC? Nope.
What else does it have that's so much better? Here are 3 of the more popular olympic sports:

Wrestling? Nope. Not offered.
Lax? Nope. Not offered.
Men's soccer? Nope. Not offered.

I would put the ACC's non-football sports at #1 overall, followed by the B1G. Is the SEC even #3?

How many NCAA national championships were won by ACC schools in 2011-12? What about 2010-11? As Casey Stengel would say, "You could look it up."

2011-12 NCAA National Champions

2010-11 NCAA National Champions

Which conference won the most national titles in both of those years? Hint: It's neither the ACC nor the SEC.

Looked to me like it was SEC in 2011-12 with 9 vs. 8 for Pac 12. Alabama had a great year. Did you have a different count?

I counted 7 that year for the SEC. 8 if you include football (which is a BCS title, not an NCAA title).
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(05-08-2013 10:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:22 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 10:10 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 09:03 AM)bluesox Wrote:  i'd go with sooner + based out of charlotte and sold as package, i.e. espn-sec + espn-acc. I could also see the acc network one reason the acc might expand.

The SEC isn't tying itself to the ACC

Because SEC Basketball is so AWESOME.

Never be able to get on in NC or VA.

Conference pride is important to us.

It's just not happening man.

ESPN is going to own both...$$$$$ is going to be the main driver in this....they want their products on as many Cable Systems as possible and on the best tier as possible....

Not gonna happen. Why would the SEC agree to share revenue with the ACC when they will likely make more?
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(05-08-2013 05:14 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 04:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(05-08-2013 12:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Georgia and Florids are not 'battleground' states. They are SEC states. 07-coffee3

So you don't believe the ACC network will get the same coverage in those states the SEC network gets?

I believe that the SECN will get far more subscribers than the ACCN in those states.

South Carolina no. That state is split pretty evenly and I still think there is a Clemson lean.

Georgia yes. They love their dawgs. GT will get some love though.

Kentucky yes but the gap is closing. Louisville has the #1 TV market for college basketball. There are more are more Cardinal fans popping up since Pitino came back to town.

Florida yes but barely. FSU + Miami probably has close to the same following as UF. If Miami gets their act together the combo will pass UF.

Whether a state is an "SEC" or "ACC" state is much more than the sheer number of alumni or fans of particular schools. E.g., Florida is an SEC state not just because of the volume of UF fans, but because the whole football culture is SEC-oriented. Casual fans of football across the state care about and follow the SEC but care nothing about the ACC.

Even most FSU care little to nothing about the ACC and would much rather be in the SEC. There are far, far more people who follow SEC football in Florida, and in Georgia, than who follow ACC football. This is also true in Kentucky and South Carolina.

In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter if the culture of Florida is an SEC state. The fact of the matter is there are tons of FSU and Miami fans in that state that will be more than happy to get the ACC network.

You keep saying there are far far far more SEC fans in these states. Yet, ESPN is willing to get a network done. These things don't get decided unless someone has done there research.
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RE: ESPN Kristi Dosh on Tim Brando Show about ACC Network..
(05-08-2013 05:26 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:22 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:15 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:10 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  The SEC isn't tying itself to the ACC

Because SEC Basketball is so AWESOME.

Never be able to get on in NC or VA.

Conference pride is important to us.

It's just not happening man.

ESPN is going to own both...$$$$$ is going to be the main driver in this....they want their products on as many Cable Systems as possible and on the best tier as possible....

Not gonna happen. Why would the SEC agree to share revenue with the ACC when they will likely make more?

OMG SEC fans. Do you guys not understand basic business principles?

Here, let me break it down to you....

ESPN to Comcast, Dish, et al - Hey, we have this new SEC Network! We want 50 cents a subscriber!

Providers - Naw, we good. We're tired of paying for sports out the wazzo. I mean, Time Warner said no to the NF-freakin'-L for a decade. A decade! THE NFL! We'll pay 20 cents. There are fewer TV sets in the south anyway.

ESPN - Hmm. What if we throw in the ACC Network and just for the hell of it, the Longhorn Network. Now, we just doubled the number of interested subscribers. How about 45 cents?

Providers - Now you have our attention. Thirty cents.

ESPN - Thirty-eight and you've got a deal.

Providers - Done! Hookers and blow are on you!

And that is big business.
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RE: ESPN Kristi Dosh on Tim Brando Show about ACC Network..
(05-08-2013 05:43 PM)fsugrad99 Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 05:26 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:31 AM)Maize Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:22 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 10:15 AM)curtis0620 Wrote:  Because SEC Basketball is so AWESOME.

Never be able to get on in NC or VA.

Conference pride is important to us.

It's just not happening man.

ESPN is going to own both...$$$$$ is going to be the main driver in this....they want their products on as many Cable Systems as possible and on the best tier as possible....

Not gonna happen. Why would the SEC agree to share revenue with the ACC when they will likely make more?

OMG SEC fans. Do you guys not understand basic business principles?

Here, let me break it down to you....

ESPN to Comcast, Dish, et al - Hey, we have this new SEC Network! We want 50 cents a subscriber!

Providers - Naw, we good. We're tired of paying for sports out the wazzo. I mean, Time Warner said no to the NF-freakin'-L for a decade. A decade! THE NFL! We'll pay 20 cents. There are fewer TV sets in the south anyway.

ESPN - Hmm. What if we throw in the ACC Network and just for the hell of it, the Longhorn Network. Now, we just doubled the number of interested subscribers. How about 45 cents?

Providers - Now you have our attention. Thirty cents.

ESPN - Thirty-eight and you've got a deal.

Providers - Done! Hookers and blow are on you!

And that is big business.


SEC Network will be much more profitable. Makes zero sense to bundle the two and split profits.
05-08-2013 05:56 PM
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RE: ESPN Kristi Dosh on Tim Brando Show about ACC Network..
(05-08-2013 11:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Also, the SEC has probably the best non Football/Men's Basketball sports in the country. That's huge for their network.

Uhhhh.....no

College Baseball: ACC
College Soccer: ACC
College Lacrosse: ACC
College Softball: ACC
College Basketball: ACC

Honestly there are high schools in North Carolina, Virginia, Indiana and Kentucky that could compete in the SEC in basketball.
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