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I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.
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(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.
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FWIW... there are 4 of the constituent states of the United States of America which officially use the name "Commonwealth", and the ACC will have all of them: Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
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(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol
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(05-09-2013 07:07 AM)krux Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol

Put U of L on our schedule too and we'll play ALL of ya for a "4 Commonwealths Trophy"... BC, Pitt, UVa AND UofL... Hokies fear nobody.
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(05-08-2013 10:07 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 04:58 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 03:37 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Don't take this the wrong way, but does any school WANT to be paired with Louisville? If so, start there and work backwards.

If not, there's something that needs to be addressed.

Please explain how someone should "take" your post. I have deleted many a "gut reaction" response, in order to give you the benefit of the doubt. Please speak your mind!

I took his post in the following way:

#1. UofL is the newest member of the ACC
#2. ACC teams have more history with each other than they do with UofL.
#3. If an ACC team would rather play UofL than their currently assigned rival, then the problem is easier to solve because you can simply swap rivalries or divisional assignment.
#4. If ACC teams want to continue playing their currently assigned rivals but schools are still unhappy with the divisional alignments, then things are more complicated.

I didn't take it as a slam against UofL at all.

04-cheers
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(05-09-2013 07:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:07 AM)krux Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol

Put U of L on our schedule too and we'll play ALL of ya for a "4 Commonwealths Trophy"... BC, Pitt, UVa AND UofL... Hokies fear nobody.

Have a Commonwealth Classic in basketball where all 4 teams play in a round robin at one of the four schools and have them count as conference games and the best record wins the Classic.
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(05-09-2013 08:53 AM)wildthing202 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:07 AM)krux Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol

Put U of L on our schedule too and we'll play ALL of ya for a "4 Commonwealths Trophy"... BC, Pitt, UVa AND UofL... Hokies fear nobody.

Have a Commonwealth Classic in basketball where all 4 teams play in a round robin at one of the four schools and have them count as conference games and the best record wins the Classic.

I like both of these ideas. We're not in the division with any of those schools though and only have one permanent crossover though.
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(05-09-2013 08:53 AM)wildthing202 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:56 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:07 AM)krux Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol

Put U of L on our schedule too and we'll play ALL of ya for a "4 Commonwealths Trophy"... BC, Pitt, UVa AND UofL... Hokies fear nobody.

Have a Commonwealth Classic in basketball where all 4 teams play in a round robin at one of the four schools and have them count as conference games and the best record wins the Classic.

I think there was something like that planned w/ VT, UVA, VCU, and ODU or some mix of schools in the coming years in VA.

EDIT: This year's version isn't nearly that exciting. It looks like it is VT vs VCU and Hampton vs JMU
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(05-09-2013 09:59 AM)krux Wrote:  I like both of these ideas. We're not in the division with any of those schools though and only have one permanent crossover though.

You actually should have Maryland's bball schedule which would put Pitt and UVA on your schedule home/home each year I think.
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(05-09-2013 10:51 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 09:59 AM)krux Wrote:  I like both of these ideas. We're not in the division with any of those schools though and only have one permanent crossover though.

You actually should have Maryland's bball schedule which would put Pitt and UVA on your schedule home/home each year I think.

Yupp.

Also, I just realized, Pitt is very lucky. They get Louisville and Syracuse twice every year.
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(05-09-2013 10:59 AM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 10:51 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 09:59 AM)krux Wrote:  I like both of these ideas. We're not in the division with any of those schools though and only have one permanent crossover though.

You actually should have Maryland's bball schedule which would put Pitt and UVA on your schedule home/home each year I think.

Yupp.

Also, I just realized, Pitt is very lucky. They get Louisville and Syracuse twice every year.

Yeah, I could not be happier with Pitt's position in football and basketball. I don't want anything to change with the divisions or permanent opponents.
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(05-09-2013 07:07 AM)krux Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol

Here are a few ideas I had:

Rumble in the Rotunda

The Rotunda is a building located on the original grounds of the University of Virginia and was designed by Thomas Jefferson. Grawemeyer Hall at the University of Louisville was modeled after Jefferson's Rotunda. Trophy would be a golden replica of the Rotunda with replicas of the Louisville Cardinal and Virginia Cavalier boxing out in front of it.


Jefferson-Clark Trophy

Thomas Jefferson planned and established the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virgina. Louisville was founded in 1778 by George Rogers Clark who happened to be a native of Charlottesville. The trophy would depict statues of Thomas Jefferson and George Rogers Clark shaking hands. Each statue would be dressed in the colors of the respective school (Jefferson in orange and navy blue; Clark in red and black).

*As an aside, Meriwether Lewis of the famous Lewis and Clark expedition was born in Ivy (just outside of Charottesville) and set out on his expedition across America from Clarksville, Indiana (just across the river from Louisville).


Battle of the Villes

The University of Virginia is in Charlottesville. The University of Louisville is in Louisville. They are the only two schools in the ACC to be located in a city/town that ends in "ville". Trophy would feature a bottle of bourbon, a pair of linked horse shoes, and a copy of the Constitution. The Bourbon and Constitution would symbolize the cities of Louisville (famous for bourbon) and Charlottesville (famous for Founding Fathers Jefferson and Madison) respectively. The pair of linked horse shoes would represent the new ties between schools in the ACC and would be symbolic of the commonality between both cities (both areas are known for their horse industries).
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(05-09-2013 04:21 PM)UofLgrad07 Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 07:07 AM)krux Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:39 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-08-2013 11:16 PM)krux Wrote:  I'm fine with UVA if push comes to shove. We play for the Governor's Cup with UK every year. Let's start a Commonwealth Cup with UVA.

VT already owns Virginia's commonwealth cup.

Resolution Trophy with Jefferson and Madison figures? I dunno...lol

Here are a few ideas I had:

Rumble in the Rotunda

The Rotunda is a building located on the original grounds of the University of Virginia and was designed by Thomas Jefferson. Grawemeyer Hall at the University of Louisville was modeled after Jefferson's Rotunda. Trophy would be a golden replica of the Rotunda with replicas of the Louisville Cardinal and Virginia Cavalier boxing out in front of it.


Jefferson-Clark Trophy

Thomas Jefferson planned and established the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Virgina. Louisville was founded in 1778 by George Rogers Clark who happened to be a native of Charlottesville. The trophy would depict statues of Thomas Jefferson and George Rogers Clark shaking hands. Each statue would be dressed in the colors of the respective school (Jefferson in orange and navy blue; Clark in red and black).

*As an aside, Meriwether Lewis of the famous Lewis and Clark expedition was born in Ivy (just outside of Charottesville) and set out on his expedition across America from Clarksville, Indiana (just across the river from Louisville).


Battle of the Villes

The University of Virginia is in Charlottesville. The University of Louisville is in Louisville. They are the only two schools in the ACC to be located in a city/town that ends in "ville". Trophy would feature a bottle of bourbon, a pair of linked horse shoes, and a copy of the Constitution. The Bourbon and Constitution would symbolize the cities of Louisville (famous for bourbon) and Charlottesville (famous for Founding Fathers Jefferson and Madison) respectively. The pair of linked horse shoes would represent the new ties between schools in the ACC and would be symbolic of the commonality between both cities (both areas are known for their horse industries).

I like those ideas. Seems like something fun ought to emerge like that and make a nice rivalry. And since I support both schools I'll be happy with the winner every year!
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(05-07-2013 07:57 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 07:48 PM)Chris02M Wrote:  Louisville ---------------Syracuse
Florida State------------Miami
Boston College---------Virginia
Georgia Tech-----------Clemson
NC State----------------North Carolina
Wake Forest------------Duke
Pittsburgh--------------Virginia Tech


this combo works the best and is one I really like as it is a basic Clemson and Syracuse for Georgia tech and Pittsburgh switch

I'm kind of old fashioned when it comes to these things but why would Syracuse not want to play Pitt and BC, two schools who they have a ton of history with just to play Louisville with whom they have very little? If Louisville goes into a down period, what's the appeal? I'm just wondering.

I don't like this lineup for Pitt either because it means they don't play any of their three most played rivals in the ACC: Syracuse, Miami, and BC. Playing VT is nice but I'd much rather Pitt be in the Coastal. I was looking at most played opponents and it still surprises me that Pitt is Miami's third most played opponent of all time behind Florida and Florida State. I know they don't care about Pitt at all but it's just interesting.

Syracuse should play BC and Pitt every year. Playing Duke, UVA, and Miami would be a plus, but as long as I get BC and Pitt, I'm happy. Anything else might cause a riot.

There should be 1 florida team in every division, GT and Clemson should be split (clemson with Miami and GT with FSU), and in a perfect world, SU and BC would be in Miami's division and Pitt would be in FSU's, but would have SU as a crossover every year. The NC schools would be split so that 2 NC schools are in each division and Duke and UNC would be in Miami's division, and NCSU and WF woul dbe in FSU's VT and UVA would either be cross overs or in the same division, and UL would go to whatever division needed a strong team to make them balanced.
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(05-07-2013 09:00 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:58 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:28 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:04 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 04:21 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  What! You are pissed about playing BC? Why haven't I ever heard of this before now?

Like I always say, easy to brush off someone else as complaining when you guys get everything you want. If you had both BC/Syracuse in your division, you wouldn't be happy either. Heck you aren't happy about the BC crossover already.

Why does every thread have to be about you not liking to play BC?  You would think that they personally drag you behind the bus to Syracuse every year with the amount of complaining that they are in your division though you haven't actually played them yet.

There are two threads right now that were not about divisional realignment that have now been hijacked by this useless discussion.

Every possible arrangement of teams and every single scheduling scenario has been hashed out daily on this forum.  Why hijack new threads instead of pulling up the hundreds of previous threads on this topic?  It'd be nice if we could discuss new things.  

Um the quote pulled was directly from the article in the original post.

The quote said that they've discussed it and decided not to change anything every time it has come up.

You found two new threads to talk **** about BC, Cuse, and the divisions though...which is really the only reason you come to this board so I'm sure this has made your day.

He is upset because he wants a 9 game conference schedule with two perm rivals because it would give FSU yearly games against Clemson (division), Miami (perm rival) and GT (perm rival) "without sacrificing OOC games." However, he feels that the current setup is "stupid" because it doesn't give FSU enough OOC games, even though it could give FSU yearly games against Clemson (division), Miami, and GT and more free OOC games than the 9-2 setup. He is further upset b ythe ACC's deal with ND. Apparently that the optional game against ND every 2.8 years cramps FSU's OOC schedule. He also claimed that the FSU's schedule is weak because of the ACC and then, in a subsequent post, claimed that if FSU scheduled tougher OOC games, their schedule would be too hard.

He is on this board for exactly 4 reasons, 1. troll, 2. complain about the ACC, 3. complain about SU, and 4. complain about BC.

He seems to be a college freshman/sophomore at FAU who is from Ohio but has family from Florida, and who is PO'd at the north for some reason (Civil War/bad experience/.../old GF). Unfortunately, there is nothing that you can say to him that will change that. It is what it is. :/
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(05-09-2013 11:33 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 09:00 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:58 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:28 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:04 PM)Ragu Wrote:  Like I always say, easy to brush off someone else as complaining when you guys get everything you want. If you had both BC/Syracuse in your division, you wouldn't be happy either. Heck you aren't happy about the BC crossover already.

Why does every thread have to be about you not liking to play BC?  You would think that they personally drag you behind the bus to Syracuse every year with the amount of complaining that they are in your division though you haven't actually played them yet.

There are two threads right now that were not about divisional realignment that have now been hijacked by this useless discussion.

Every possible arrangement of teams and every single scheduling scenario has been hashed out daily on this forum.  Why hijack new threads instead of pulling up the hundreds of previous threads on this topic?  It'd be nice if we could discuss new things.  

Um the quote pulled was directly from the article in the original post.

The quote said that they've discussed it and decided not to change anything every time it has come up.

You found two new threads to talk **** about BC, Cuse, and the divisions though...which is really the only reason you come to this board so I'm sure this has made your day.

He is upset because he wants a 9 game conference schedule with two perm rivals because it would give FSU yearly games against Clemson (division), Miami (perm rival) and GT (perm rival) "without sacrificing OOC games." However, he feels that the current setup is "stupid" because it doesn't give FSU enough OOC games, even though it could give FSU yearly games against Clemson (division), Miami, and GT and more free OOC games than the 9-2 setup. He is further upset b ythe ACC's deal with ND. Apparently that the optional game against ND every 2.8 years cramps FSU's OOC schedule. He also claimed that the FSU's schedule is weak because of the ACC and then, in a subsequent post, claimed that if FSU scheduled tougher OOC games, their schedule would be too hard.

He is on this board for exactly 4 reasons, 1. troll, 2. complain about the ACC, 3. complain about SU, and 4. complain about BC.

He seems to be a college freshman/sophomore at FAU who is from Ohio but has family from Florida, and who is PO'd at the north for some reason (Civil War/bad experience/.../old GF). Unfortunately, there is nothing that you can say to him that will change that. It is what it is. :/

Actually I said I would want 9 conference games if the divisions went N/S. The divisions do matter to a league as a whole and the ACC's are the only ones that don't make sense. FSU shouldn't have to lose an OOC game for the ACC to do its job. I said going to 9 would be a compromise though if they would get the actual division that makes sense.

Now I personally would be fine with 9 if it meant GT was on the schedule every year. But from an FSU perspective, it makes sense to want the conference to do its job rather than sacrficing the revenue from an extra home game OOC because the ACC is too stupid to maximize its assets.

I never complained about FSU's OOC schedule being too hard. This in an example of you being an idiot and not knowing how to read properly. I said that every school has at least one cupcake game to get an extra home game OOC. If you play 4 competent opponents, none will agree wth you not visiting their stadium. Plus a team needs a break before a rivalry game sometimes. FSU is just now starting to do what UF has done for years. Schedule a cupcake before the rivalry game. Again if you could read, it would avoid confusion.

I actually want the most competition possible without sacrificing extra revenue. FSU can control OOC and are looking like they will have 3 tough opponents of the 4 which is really the most you can have to gain the most revenue. The ACC schedule however they can't control. That is up to the league to actually do what makes sense which is a foreign concept to ACC football.

As a fan of a team that hasn't played a down in the ACC, maybe you will see that in the future.

As for my personal stuff, I graduated a long time ago from college. I live in Ohio again, have family in NY and have no problem with the North or Midwest part of the US. That is way different than hating non regional football games in conference in a sport built around rivalries betwen teams from the same region. But hey if you would stop twisting words and talking out your ass it would be very nice.

If you want to get personal about me though, pm me. The forum isn't for that. That is juvenile to say the least which is funny since you are attempting to talk down to me while being the one that can't read properly.
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OK guys, lets simmer down with the personal issues and name calling before this thread degenerates into a smack filled thread and gets moved.
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(05-10-2013 06:43 AM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-09-2013 11:33 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 09:00 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:58 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(05-07-2013 05:28 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  Why does every thread have to be about you not liking to play BC?  You would think that they personally drag you behind the bus to Syracuse every year with the amount of complaining that they are in your division though you haven't actually played them yet.

There are two threads right now that were not about divisional realignment that have now been hijacked by this useless discussion.

Every possible arrangement of teams and every single scheduling scenario has been hashed out daily on this forum.  Why hijack new threads instead of pulling up the hundreds of previous threads on this topic?  It'd be nice if we could discuss new things.  

Um the quote pulled was directly from the article in the original post.

The quote said that they've discussed it and decided not to change anything every time it has come up.

You found two new threads to talk **** about BC, Cuse, and the divisions though...which is really the only reason you come to this board so I'm sure this has made your day.

He is upset because he wants a 9 game conference schedule with two perm rivals because it would give FSU yearly games against Clemson (division), Miami (perm rival) and GT (perm rival) "without sacrificing OOC games." However, he feels that the current setup is "stupid" because it doesn't give FSU enough OOC games, even though it could give FSU yearly games against Clemson (division), Miami, and GT and more free OOC games than the 9-2 setup. He is further upset b ythe ACC's deal with ND. Apparently that the optional game against ND every 2.8 years cramps FSU's OOC schedule. He also claimed that the FSU's schedule is weak because of the ACC and then, in a subsequent post, claimed that if FSU scheduled tougher OOC games, their schedule would be too hard.

He is on this board for exactly 4 reasons, 1. troll, 2. complain about the ACC, 3. complain about SU, and 4. complain about BC.

He seems to be a college freshman/sophomore at FAU who is from Ohio but has family from Florida, and who is PO'd at the north for some reason (Civil War/bad experience/.../old GF). Unfortunately, there is nothing that you can say to him that will change that. It is what it is. :/

Actually I said I would want 9 conference games if the divisions went N/S. The divisions do matter to a league as a whole and the ACC's are the only ones that don't make sense. FSU shouldn't have to lose an OOC game for the ACC to do its job. I said going to 9 would be a compromise though if they would get the actual division that makes sense.

Now I personally would be fine with 9 if it meant GT was on the schedule every year. But from an FSU perspective, it makes sense to want the conference to do its job rather than sacrficing the revenue from an extra home game OOC because the ACC is too stupid to maximize its assets.

I never complained about FSU's OOC schedule being too hard. This in an example of you being an idiot and not knowing how to read properly. I said that every school has at least one cupcake game to get an extra home game OOC. If you play 4 competent opponents, none will agree wth you not visiting their stadium. Plus a team needs a break before a rivalry game sometimes. FSU is just now starting to do what UF has done for years. Schedule a cupcake before the rivalry game. Again if you could read, it would avoid confusion.

I actually want the most competition possible without sacrificing extra revenue. FSU can control OOC and are looking like they will have 3 tough opponents of the 4 which is really the most you can have to gain the most revenue. The ACC schedule however they can't control. That is up to the league to actually do what makes sense which is a foreign concept to ACC football.

As a fan of a team that hasn't played a down in the ACC, maybe you will see that in the future.

As for my personal stuff, I graduated a long time ago from college. I live in Ohio again, have family in NY and have no problem with the North or Midwest part of the US. That is way different than hating non regional football games in conference in a sport built around rivalries betwen teams from the same region. But hey if you would stop twisting words and talking out your ass it would be very nice.

If you want to get personal about me though, pm me. The forum isn't for that. That is juvenile to say the least which is funny since you are attempting to talk down to me while being the one that can't read properly.

Sure thing, champ.
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RE: Swofford on current ACC
Very nice to once again clear up you twisting my words and being completely wrong on me personally, sport.
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