(04-29-2013 09:44 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  The biggest question mark would be how the New Big East would maintain their AQ status.

Well I would imagine that one of the new schools would start up a program like Marquette just did. Possibly Creighton, but im just pulling things out on my .

With 168 hours of programming to fill up every week on the BTN, it's only a matter of time before Lacrosse becomes a B10 conference sport. With all the success that the Lady Cats have had, adding a Men's Lacrosse program at NU would be a great fit with the growth of Lacrosse on the HS level in Illinois and the recruiting NU already does on the east coast for the Lady Cats.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/universiti...tsrc=3ukhp

Think the Big Ten would like to share some of this money with JHU?

(04-29-2013 11:12 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 10:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 10:09 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 10:05 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Is this where the ACC guys and future ACC guys tell us that the CIC will have zero affect on what decision JHU might actually make if they decide to move to one or the other?

Saying that the Big Ten only has LaCrosse to offer to JHU is just downright silly and childish.

All JHU needs from one of the Majors is LaCrosse. JHU is in the top 5 research institutions. I am pretty sure that is their priority even above LaCrosse.

The ACC has some impressive research institutions but it is not the Big Ten in that regard.

The Big Ten will be making more money. The Big Variable in all of this will be what exactly the Big Ten offers JHU so that they don't indeed choose the ACC if they do decide to make the move upwards.

I can't take this post seriously until you fix the C in lacrosse.

I refuse to conform. You will just have to stomach that bile and deal with it I guess. After all...I am an Iowa guy right? Lucky I am even bothering to talk about LaCrosse, let alone admit that it actually matters in this small neighborhood of the realignment world.

Did you read my first post in this thread? This thread isn't going well for you: missed my post throwing your theory in the crapper and proved your knowledge and respect of the Lacrosse is nil. The game has great significance to those who reside in Upstate NY and was a gift from the Iroquois.

For a guy who doesn't care about the ACC you sure seem to obsess over it.

No, I didnt read your post. I try not to. Usually I just feel my IQ slipping when I do.

Obsess? I take a moment in time and quickly type up a little post that I will forget about 2 minutes later until I read it again when some schmuck like you responds with some garbage like the post I am now quoting for some reason.

No, I dont obsess on the ACC, it is just a conversation piece. Generally people like you project their own feelings onto others so that they can understand them. That happens quite a bit on the internet because we really know nothing about each other. So, what is it that you are obsessive about? Looking for my posts and responding to each and every one of them? Sure seems like it.

As far as me "respecting" LaCrosse, why should I? I don't have to respect it at all for anything to happen. My respect of the game wont change what actually happens one iota. You are the one displaying signs of obsession, thinking any of this on this forum actually matters.

I don't know how I will manage to hold myself back from not going back to school up from what sounds to be a most amazing post where in one post you throw my "theory" in the crapper. What theory is that? That there are other aspects to Universities than sports? Guess you got me there by proving that wrong. Well done?

WTF is that gibberish you wrote?

You better get back to playing with your Internet friends at the B12 Scout expansion board and brush up the talking points for your B1G20 and the grand theories of the destruction of the ACC.

Play nice now, children...

The B1G probably want John Hopkins to join. It makes perfect sense for them. JHU would be similar to the University of Chicago in that case. The question is whether or not JHU wants to go to the B1G instead of joining the ACC or nBE.

(04-29-2013 06:40 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  JHU makes sense for the B1G as a MD playmate and if they get involved with the Research Angle of it.

JHU makes sense to the ACC for every other reason.

Well, there is one other tangible item that the B1G has to offer: BTN money. That's not insignificant considering that JHU has its own ESPN deal and presumably would need to be compensated for it in order to join a conference.

It was reported yesterday that the 6 Big Ten hockey schools are going to receive an additional BTN bonus of $2 million each per year. This is for *hockey* (which, by the way, should indicate that the normal football/basketball payments from the BTN are going to be astronomical). The point is that the BTN can make JHU more than whole financially quite easily without a blip.

So, if the Big Ten can offer JHU (1) its biggest rival, (2) a better academic fit and (3) more TV money, there isn't an area that actually matters in conference realignment where the ACC make more sense.

As a Baltimore resident I am aware how thin JHU's athletic budget is. Travel to the mdwest would be tough for them without B1G funding.

If it only takes 6 members, I really hope the SEC east schools will strongly consider adding it for men and women in the future. UK, UT, UGA, USC, UF, and Vandy would really benefit from attracting those kinds of students, many of whom are now going to B1G or ACC schools instead. I think Bama and Auburn could also benefit.

The ACC and the Big 10 would both probably jump at the opportunity to take Johns Hopkins. That means the decision is completely up to Johns Hopkins.

What are they looking for in a conference? Anyone know?

Whats the time frame looking like for the B1G to start up their own Lacrosse league? Just wondering how many years we have Rutgers and if we get one of our new members to start up Lax now would they be ready by the time the Knights leave?

(04-30-2013 11:07 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The ACC and the Big 10 would both probably jump at the opportunity to take Johns Hopkins. That means the decision is completely up to Johns Hopkins.

What are they looking for in a conference? Anyone know?

SOS (ACC wins)
Geographic Proximity (ACC wins)
Academic Alignment (Probably a tie)
Increased Funding (B1G wins)
Increased Exposure (B1G wins)

(04-30-2013 11:19 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Whats the time frame looking like for the B1G to start up their own Lacrosse league? Just wondering how many years we have Rutgers and if we get one of our new members to start up Lax now would they be ready by the time the Knights leave?

The minimum time frame is 2014/2015, so the 2015 Spring season. Maryland and Rutgers are not members of the Big Ten next year, so the New Big East gets to start with six members that have competed together in conference play ~ that's key to getting AQ right away.

If Rutgers leaves before the Spring 2015 season, the New Big East would have a two year grace period on AQ before losing it, since it would be due to a school leaving.

Assuming SLU is the 11th member, if Richmond is the 12th school, that would make the 6th Lacross member. If Dayton is the 12th school, it would have to either be an affiliate or else a school would have to promote. SLU plays club lacrosse, so they might be a possibility there.

(04-30-2013 11:07 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The ACC and the Big 10 would both probably jump at the opportunity to take Johns Hopkins.

I think that's pretty definite. They have their own cable contract, after all.

Quote: That means the decision is completely up to Johns Hopkins.

What are they looking for in a conference? Anyone know?

If they got locked out in a crowded at-large field this year, an AQ would be one thing they would be looking for. They are going to put together a strong schedule no matter which conference they are in, but obviously the ACC would be the elite conference, the Big Ten would be pointing to the CIC and likely putting together some special Lacross school payout (they just approved a $2m Ice Hockey payout).

(04-30-2013 11:42 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(04-30-2013 11:19 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Whats the time frame looking like for the B1G to start up their own Lacrosse league? Just wondering how many years we have Rutgers and if we get one of our new members to start up Lax now would they be ready by the time the Knights leave?

The minimum time frame is 2014/2015, so the 2015 Spring season. Maryland and Rutgers are not members of the Big Ten next year, so the New Big East gets to start with six members that have competed together in conference play ~ that's key to getting AQ right away.

If Rutgers leaves before the Spring 2015 season, the New Big East would have a two year grace period on AQ before losing it, since it would be due to a school leaving.

Assuming SLU is the 11th member, if Richmond is the 12th school, that would make the 6th Lacross member. If Dayton is the 12th school, it would have to either be an affiliate or else a school would have to promote. SLU plays club lacrosse, so they might be a possibility there.

(04-30-2013 11:07 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  The ACC and the Big 10 would both probably jump at the opportunity to take Johns Hopkins.

I think that's pretty definite. They have their own cable contract, after all.

Quote: That means the decision is completely up to Johns Hopkins.

What are they looking for in a conference? Anyone know?

If they got locked out in a crowded at-large field this year, an AQ would be one thing they would be looking for. They are going to put together a strong schedule no matter which conference they are in, but obviously the ACC would be the elite conference, the Big Ten would be pointing to the CIC and likely putting together some special Lacross school payout (they just approved a $2m Ice Hockey payout).

I don't think lax schedules are set more than a year in advance so Rutgers should be able to cobble together an indy schedule for next year, especially with their soon to be conference mates.

(04-30-2013 11:55 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  I don't think lax schedules are set more than a year in advance so Rutgers should be able to cobble together an indy schedule for next year, especially with their soon to be conference mates.

Why would they do that when they have already agreed to play in the New Big East? Especially when it would mean giving up the shot for an AQ spot in the NCAA tournament?

A minimum-size AQ LAX league is only five conference games, there's plenty of room to play the Buckeyes, that school up north, Penn State and Maryland next year if they wish.

(04-30-2013 12:00 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(04-30-2013 11:55 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  I don't think lax schedules are set more than a year in advance so Rutgers should be able to cobble together an indy schedule for next year, especially with their soon to be conference mates.

Why would they do that when they have already agreed to play in the New Big East? Especially when it would mean giving up the shot for an AQ spot in the NCAA tournament?

A minimum-size AQ LAX league is only five conference games, there's plenty of room to play the Buckeyes, that school up north, Penn State and Maryland next year if they wish.

Exactly, no need to go indy if you don't have to.

(04-30-2013 11:19 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Whats the time frame looking like for the B1G to start up their own Lacrosse league? Just wondering how many years we have Rutgers and if we get one of our new members to start up Lax now would they be ready by the time the Knights leave?

When Richmond joins the Big East in 2014, they will replace Rutgers in LAX.

(04-30-2013 01:45 PM)bostonspider Wrote:  

(04-30-2013 11:19 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Whats the time frame looking like for the B1G to start up their own Lacrosse league? Just wondering how many years we have Rutgers and if we get one of our new members to start up Lax now would they be ready by the time the Knights leave?

When Richmond joins the Big East in 2014, they will replace Rutgers in LAX.

If Richmond joins the Big East in 2014, they will either replace Rutgers or join them.

(04-30-2013 07:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  WTF is that gibberish you wrote?

You better get back to playing with your Internet friends at the B12 Scout expansion board and brush up the talking points for your B1G20 and the grand theories of the destruction of the ACC.

Gibberish? Guess it went over your head. For the record since you are trying to spin it here...surprise surprise...the folks over there aren't too fond of me either. They hate the Big Ten more than you. You know that though because you post there quite often too.

Hypocrite much? Internet friends...you mean you and your circle jerk that you call the ACC board here?