There is 0 chance Threloff, Rakocevic, and Gray all average double digits. Zero.

7, I know you want to be negative about anything bball related, but its 10-14pts combined for the center position. Wake up man!

Oh, that's possible.

(05-03-2013 05:13 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  U r both the exception to the rule. Why would
u apply to u of I? Did u get more money to go to niu? Basket Ball and football players go big 10 if have choice Overwhelming majority of the time...

Not sure why you are beating this thing to death...not everyone bleeds Illini blue and orange

(05-03-2013 05:13 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  U r both the exception to the rule. Why would
u apply to u of I? Did u get more money to go to niu? Basket Ball and football players go big 10 if have choice Overwhelming majority of the time...

Why did I apply to U of I? Because it's in state.
Did I get more money to go to NIU? No.
I just liked NIU more. Plus, I knew someday the Huskies would play in the Orange Bowl.

For me it was about being closer to home and cheaper. Also I have had family attend NIU

Don't kid yourselves. Kids want Big 10. Big house. Horseshoe. 110,000 fans in stadium. National TV regularly. The lead on ESPN. BCS Bowls with regularity not once in a. Lifetime.

(05-03-2013 10:14 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Don't kid yourselves. Kids want Big 10. Big house. Horseshoe. 110,000 fans in stadium. National TV regularly. The lead on ESPN. BCS Bowls with regularity not once in a. Lifetime.

Kids mainly just want playing time, and the ones that are obsessed with exposure usually flop anyway.

(05-03-2013 03:59 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  Numbers, are trying to say that if given the choice of U of I or NIU coming out of high school, most athletes and general students would choose NIU over U of I, yes or no? It doesn't mean NIU is bad just because most would choose U of I.

No I'm saying an act score of 22 does not mean you will flunk out of u of I and enroll in NIU.
Not saying that most people don't prefer illness to NIU. In most respects i don't understand how your education is that much better. Your education is what you put into it. You get things like alumni networks that have value but the idea that you got a better education is crazy.
Calculus is calculus regardless of if you learn it at community college or Harvard.

Numbers, I agree with you. Niu75, said you would flunk out not me.

(05-03-2013 10:14 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Don't kid yourselves. Kids want Big 10. Big house. Horseshoe. 110,000 fans in stadium. National TV regularly. The lead on ESPN. BCS Bowls with regularity not once in a. Lifetime.

BCS bowls? At U of I? What are you smoking? And Illinois only gets attention AFTER all the pro sports are done and after they have talked about TSISB. The only advantage to U of I now is that they play in front of more people.

They are in the Bigten. The money difference is huge. U of I wants to do stadium improvements, they get the money. They get more guys in the NFL. That makes a big difference to the athletes. TV is another big difference. Students pride in their school is much different. The Orange Bowl has helped a little with that. Being associated with, Michigan, Ohio St, Nebraska, Penn St, Wisconsin, Michigan St, Northwestern, Purdue as compared to, CMU, Kent St., Akron, Ball St. EMU, come on know. I love NIU as much as the next guy, but there is no comparison between NIU and U of I in athletics or academics. NIU and ISU AND SIU are better comparisons.

(05-04-2013 10:08 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  BCS bowls? At U of I? What are you smoking? And Illinois only gets attention AFTER all the pro sports are done and after they have talked about TSISB. The only advantage to U of I now is that they play in front of more people.

Well, they've played in 2 BCS bowl games in the past 10-12 years. They won't be in a similar situation anytime soon, but they've shown they can do it.

(05-04-2013 10:59 AM)UIHuskie Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 10:08 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  BCS bowls? At U of I? What are you smoking? And Illinois only gets attention AFTER all the pro sports are done and after they have talked about TSISB. The only advantage to U of I now is that they play in front of more people.

Well, they've played in 2 BCS bowl games in the past 10-12 years. They won't be in a similar situation anytime soon, but they've shown they can do it.

It's pretty rare though. As a recruit you can always dream but if a BCS bowl is a goal, Illinois wouldn't be the place to go.

(05-04-2013 10:45 AM)niu2222 Wrote:  They are in the Bigten. The money difference is huge. U of I wants to do stadium improvements, they get the money. They get more guys in the NFL. That makes a big difference to the athletes. TV is another big difference. Students pride in their school is much different. The Orange Bowl has helped a little with that. Being associated with, Michigan, Ohio St, Nebraska, Penn St, Wisconsin, Michigan St, Northwestern, Purdue as compared to, CMU, Kent St., Akron, Ball St. EMU, come on know. I love NIU as much as the next guy, but there is no comparison between NIU and U of I in athletics or academics. NIU and ISU AND SIU are better comparisons.

That's what I said already. They get more people and they play more Big 10 schools. Illinois plays on the Big 10 channel mostly so people that have that can see it. Everyone else will be watching E$PN.

Why do they get more guys in the NFL? Because they get better recruits. My point is that recruits shouldn't think Illinois is a slam dunk anymore vs. NIU, not that they don't currently have higher priority for recruits. There's nothing intrinsic about Illinois that gets more people in the NFL.

Also, at least theoretically, the athletes don't get the money so what difference does that make? They don't sit in the stands, or the pressbox, or the luxury suites.

Student athletes go to schools that give them the best chance to get to the league. That's pretty much it. If John Calapari became the NIU coach tomorrow, we'd have a Top 5 recruiting class in the country next year.

Do you think Illinois has had more talent the last 3 years than NIU? I honestly don't think so. How many guys have they had drafted over the last 3 years? I think it might be double digits. How many guys has NIU had drafted? 1.

Melvin was a 6-2 corner who ran a sub 4.4 and was a 2 year starter, 3 year rotation guy (and good player) at NIU and he didn't get drafted. If he went to Illinois, he would have been drafted based off his measurables alone. He probably would have been invited to the NFL combine. It's just the truth. Melvin and Moore were I thought the most NFL ready players since Larry English, and neither got drafted. I would think Ward would get drafted next year, but at this point who really knows.

(05-04-2013 06:33 PM)7 Wrote:  Student athletes go to schools that give them the best chance to get to the league. That's pretty much it. If John Calapari became the NIU coach tomorrow, we'd have a Top 5 recruiting class in the country next year.

Do you think Illinois has had more talent the last 3 years than NIU? I honestly don't think so. How many guys have they had drafted over the last 3 years? I think it might be double digits. How many guys has NIU had drafted? 1.

Melvin was a 6-2 corner who ran a sub 4.4 and was a 2 year starter, 3 year rotation guy (and good player) at NIU and he didn't get drafted. If he went to Illinois, he would have been drafted based off his measurables alone. He probably would have been invited to the NFL combine. It's just the truth. Melvin and Moore were I thought the most NFL ready players since Larry English, and neither got drafted. I would think Ward would get drafted next year, but at this point who really knows.

What's odd that is that Illini players have done very well in the NFL, considering the source.

(05-03-2013 09:00 AM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 08:47 AM)nbcards Wrote:  

(05-03-2013 08:10 AM)armour248 Wrote:  He did say he couldn't even imagine playing at NIU when he was in HS...and now he's "kinda excited" about it. We were the only D1 school to show any interest in his transfer...that should tell you everything you need to know

I think part of the reason other schools didnt look at him is he would only have 1 year left. But by coming home he can apply for the hardship waiver and play 2 years at NIU

Coming home is a hardship?

Any prophet could tell you that.

(05-04-2013 06:33 PM)7 Wrote:  Student athletes go to schools that give them the best chance to get to the league. That's pretty much it. If John Calapari became the NIU coach tomorrow, we'd have a Top 5 recruiting class in the country next year.

Do you think Illinois has had more talent the last 3 years than NIU? I honestly don't think so. How many guys have they had drafted over the last 3 years? I think it might be double digits. How many guys has NIU had drafted? 1.

Melvin was a 6-2 corner who ran a sub 4.4 and was a 2 year starter, 3 year rotation guy (and good player) at NIU and he didn't get drafted. If he went to Illinois, he would have been drafted based off his measurables alone. He probably would have been invited to the NFL combine. It's just the truth. Melvin and Moore were I thought the most NFL ready players since Larry English, and neither got drafted. I would think Ward would get drafted next year, but at this point who really knows.

Then the scouts don't know what they're doing.

(05-04-2013 06:33 PM)7 Wrote:  Melvin was a 6-2 corner who ran a sub 4.4 and was a 2 year starter, 3 year rotation guy (and good player) at NIU and he didn't get drafted. If he went to Illinois, he would have been drafted based off his measurables alone. He probably would have been invited to the NFL combine. It's just the truth. Melvin and Moore were I thought the most NFL ready players since Larry English, and neither got drafted. I would think Ward would get drafted next year, but at this point who really knows.

Ward will definitely be drafted, if he has as good a year this fall as he did in 2012. You can bet that NFL scouts are already well aware of him after the outstanding season he had. Don't forget Ward was 1st Team All-MAC as a junior, while Melvin didn't make 1st, 2nd or 3rd Team All-MAC as a senior. Melvin has great measurables, but I don't think he had that good of a year in 2012. I predicted he'd be a lockdown CB in 2012, but it didn't turn out that way.