(04-29-2013 03:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 02:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is no joke... I've got a cousin who died from prescription drug abuse and friend (I was closer to his parents at one time) that died from cocaine abuse. You can look at volume of these drugs available and the methods and ease by which they are abused to explain the differences above. Betty Ford was famous for abuse of prescription (not recreation drugs).

Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

I can't control the habits of peaceful people. I would prefer that the dangerous black market be removed and people who seek to alter their consciences be able to do so without fear of violence or a jail cell.

No one is advocating for a legal street sales of substances. I have no problem with some level of control and even prescriptions for some substances now deemed illegal.

Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I would simply start with Cannabis first. We already have examples in 12 states of the methodology of control with Medical Cannabis and nationwide experience with hard alcohol control. Some states do it better than others. Removing Cannabis from the black market would do wonders to ease law enforcement pressure and let them concentrate more on the really dangerous black market substances. It would also end a ton of the violence associated with Cannabis. Use Cannabis as the ground floor experiment in legalization and then go from there. I would never advocate wholesale legalization at this point. We are no where ready for such a thing and those that advocate for this are foolish.

One thing is for sure. What we are doing now is not working. Let's also not forget that Cannabis holds great potential as a revenue stream for government much like Alcohol and Tobacco. Cannabis is a commodity. It is just not a legal one.

If I live in a state where it has been legalized, I am turning to the industrial side immediately....forget about the 'drug' side....

I can't wait to see how the feds fk this up this go round.

The mere fact that industrial Hemp is illegal to grow in America should tell people that are paying any attention that this is being controlled by businesses..not government. Industrial Hemp is a direct competitor to the timber industry and it has so little THC content that one would have to smoke a damn boatload to get high. Industrial Hemp also destroys the THC content of Cannabis through Xpolination. From what I remember...Industrial Hemp is the dominate cultivar and when Xpolination occurs the result is a plant with more of the dominate plants characteristics. So...planting industrial Hemp would actually do damage to the Cannabis crop being grown outdoors. The excuses for not allowing Industrial Hemp are based on no reasonable logic. The bottom line is it is protectionism for business interests.

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

That has not been the case in Portugal.

(04-29-2013 04:16 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 03:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 02:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I can't control the habits of peaceful people. I would prefer that the dangerous black market be removed and people who seek to alter their consciences be able to do so without fear of violence or a jail cell.

No one is advocating for a legal street sales of substances. I have no problem with some level of control and even prescriptions for some substances now deemed illegal.

Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I would simply start with Cannabis first. We already have examples in 12 states of the methodology of control with Medical Cannabis and nationwide experience with hard alcohol control. Some states do it better than others. Removing Cannabis from the black market would do wonders to ease law enforcement pressure and let them concentrate more on the really dangerous black market substances. It would also end a ton of the violence associated with Cannabis. Use Cannabis as the ground floor experiment in legalization and then go from there. I would never advocate wholesale legalization at this point. We are no where ready for such a thing and those that advocate for this are foolish.

One thing is for sure. What we are doing now is not working. Let's also not forget that Cannabis holds great potential as a revenue stream for government much like Alcohol and Tobacco. Cannabis is a commodity. It is just not a legal one.

If I live in a state where it has been legalized, I am turning to the industrial side immediately....forget about the 'drug' side....

I can't wait to see how the feds fk this up this go round.

The mere fact that industrial Hemp is illegal to grow in America should tell people that are paying any attention that this is being controlled by businesses..not government. Industrial Hemp is a direct competitor to the timber industry and it has so little THC content that one would have to smoke a damn boatload to get high. Industrial Hemp also destroys the THC content of Cannabis through Xpolination. From what I remember...Industrial Hemp is the dominate cultivar and when Xpolination occurs the result is a plant with more of the dominate plants characteristics. So...planting industrial Hemp would actually do damage to the Cannabis crop being grown outdoors. The excuses for not allowing Industrial Hemp are based on no reasonable logic. The bottom line is it is protectionism for business interests.

you people on this spin...you really think there is a difference?? are you 5? nfshite

(04-29-2013 04:27 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

That has not been the case in Portugal.

Nice isolation study there cheif...how is Amsterdam...are their laws the same as Portugal's....and what is the overall economy relative to how either would impact America.

This board/thread is so stupid it's not even gdm funny. It is impossible to debate this issue.

Godfkndam

You know what is really funny....the youth still thinks they make a difference.

You guys don't realize how fkd you are.

(04-29-2013 09:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  You know what is really funny....the youth still thinks they make a difference.

You guys don't realize how fkd you are.

Sounds like you need to light one up.

(04-29-2013 11:15 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 09:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  You know what is really funny....the youth still thinks they make a difference.

You guys don't realize how fkd you are.

Sounds like you need to light one up.

I did and it was nighty-night.....right on!

(04-29-2013 09:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 04:16 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 03:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 02:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I would simply start with Cannabis first. We already have examples in 12 states of the methodology of control with Medical Cannabis and nationwide experience with hard alcohol control. Some states do it better than others. Removing Cannabis from the black market would do wonders to ease law enforcement pressure and let them concentrate more on the really dangerous black market substances. It would also end a ton of the violence associated with Cannabis. Use Cannabis as the ground floor experiment in legalization and then go from there. I would never advocate wholesale legalization at this point. We are no where ready for such a thing and those that advocate for this are foolish.

One thing is for sure. What we are doing now is not working. Let's also not forget that Cannabis holds great potential as a revenue stream for government much like Alcohol and Tobacco. Cannabis is a commodity. It is just not a legal one.

If I live in a state where it has been legalized, I am turning to the industrial side immediately....forget about the 'drug' side....

I can't wait to see how the feds fk this up this go round.

The mere fact that industrial Hemp is illegal to grow in America should tell people that are paying any attention that this is being controlled by businesses..not government. Industrial Hemp is a direct competitor to the timber industry and it has so little THC content that one would have to smoke a damn boatload to get high. Industrial Hemp also destroys the THC content of Cannabis through Xpolination. From what I remember...Industrial Hemp is the dominate cultivar and when Xpolination occurs the result is a plant with more of the dominate plants characteristics. So...planting industrial Hemp would actually do damage to the Cannabis crop being grown outdoors. The excuses for not allowing Industrial Hemp are based on no reasonable logic. The bottom line is it is protectionism for business interests.

you people on this spin...you really think there is a difference?? are you 5? nfshite

One question. Why is industrial Hemp illegal to grow in America?

(04-29-2013 09:16 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  You know what is really funny....the youth still thinks they make a difference.

You guys don't realize how fkd you are.

Nope. Ill be retired comfortably soon and my assets have be sheltered and protected. I will be fine.

(04-29-2013 09:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 04:27 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

That has not been the case in Portugal.

Nice isolation study there cheif...how is Amsterdam...are their laws the same as Portugal's....and what is the overall economy relative to how either would impact America.

This board/thread is so stupid it's not even gdm funny. It is impossible to debate this issue.

Godfkndam

I would not use Portugal as an example of what would be a good drug policy. Although one will not get thrown in jail for simple possession, the consequences can be almost as bad ranging from stiff fines, property seizures to losing the right to bear arms. It still does nothing to stop an illegal black market since it does nothing to make sales legal. I guess it is a step in the right direction, but not a glorious one.

The policy of the Netherlands is still the preferable one to me. There is no punishment for small amounts of Cannabis being possessed and one can personally grow up to 5 plants for personal use. Allowing legal sales and personal cultivation addressed to a degree the black market issue.

Lets be clear. Legalization of Cannabis occurs nowhere. It is still illegal in both Portugal and the Netherlands. It is controlled..not legalized.

So stay away from fun drugs like X and the pony, but green, shrooms, and Sid are okay. 3/5 ain't bad. Shrooms are the best anyway.

(04-29-2013 02:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is no joke... I've got a cousin who died from prescription drug abuse and friend (I was closer to his parents at one time) that died from cocaine abuse. You can look at volume of these drugs available and the methods and ease by which they are abused to explain the differences above. Betty Ford was famous for abuse of prescription (not recreation drugs).

Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

I can't control the habits of peaceful people. I would prefer that the dangerous black market be removed and people who seek to alter their consciences be able to do so without fear of violence or a jail cell.

No one is advocating for a legal street sales of substances. I have no problem with some level of control and even prescriptions for some substances now deemed illegal.

Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I would simply start with Cannabis first. We already have examples in 12 states of the methodology of control with Medical Cannabis and nationwide experience with hard alcohol control. Some states do it better than others. Removing Cannabis from the black market would do wonders to ease law enforcement pressure and let them concentrate more on the really dangerous black market substances. It would also end a ton of the violence associated with Cannabis. Use Cannabis as the ground floor experiment in legalization and then go from there. I would never advocate wholesale legalization at this point. We are no where ready for such a thing and those that advocate for this are foolish.

One thing is for sure. What we are doing now is not working. Let's also not forget that Cannabis holds great potential as a revenue stream for government much like Alcohol and Tobacco. Cannabis is a commodity. It is just not a legal one.

These are the biggest reasons I am in favor of legalizing marijuana. Personally, I don't smoke it, and I wouldn't if it was legalized, but I don't believe it is my business to tell somebody they can't if they want to.(much like the way many people view alcohol today) In a country where we can't balance a budget, can't effectively control a border, can't stop the widening rift between the rich and the poor, and can't stop wasting what money we do have, I am all for creating another revenue stream. Allow states and the federal government to tax it. Get some of our DEA agents off the streets and out of harms way from some very violent people. Stop the illegal smuggling of something that is now legal. Keep non-violent offenders out of prison, and stop handing out felonies that ruin people's lives over marijuana.

It is just my opinion, but I feel that most people who want to smoke marijuana are probably already doing so. The country isn't going to go to **** because of it getting legalized. The states that have legalized it already are still functioning as far as I can tell.

(04-30-2013 09:35 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 02:22 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is no joke... I've got a cousin who died from prescription drug abuse and friend (I was closer to his parents at one time) that died from cocaine abuse. You can look at volume of these drugs available and the methods and ease by which they are abused to explain the differences above. Betty Ford was famous for abuse of prescription (not recreation drugs).

Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

I can't control the habits of peaceful people. I would prefer that the dangerous black market be removed and people who seek to alter their consciences be able to do so without fear of violence or a jail cell.

No one is advocating for a legal street sales of substances. I have no problem with some level of control and even prescriptions for some substances now deemed illegal.

Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I would simply start with Cannabis first. We already have examples in 12 states of the methodology of control with Medical Cannabis and nationwide experience with hard alcohol control. Some states do it better than others. Removing Cannabis from the black market would do wonders to ease law enforcement pressure and let them concentrate more on the really dangerous black market substances. It would also end a ton of the violence associated with Cannabis. Use Cannabis as the ground floor experiment in legalization and then go from there. I would never advocate wholesale legalization at this point. We are no where ready for such a thing and those that advocate for this are foolish.

One thing is for sure. What we are doing now is not working. Let's also not forget that Cannabis holds great potential as a revenue stream for government much like Alcohol and Tobacco. Cannabis is a commodity. It is just not a legal one.

These are the biggest reasons I am in favor of legalizing marijuana. Personally, I don't smoke it, and I wouldn't if it was legalized, but I don't believe it is my business to tell somebody they can't if they want to.(much like the way many people view alcohol today) In a country where we can't balance a budget, can't effectively control a border, can't stop the widening rift between the rich and the poor, and can't stop wasting what money we do have, I am all for creating another revenue stream. Allow states and the federal government to tax it. Get some of our DEA agents off the streets and out of harms way from some very violent people. Stop the illegal smuggling of something that is now legal. Keep non-violent offenders out of prison, and stop handing out felonies that ruin people's lives over marijuana.

It is just my opinion, but I feel that most people who want to smoke marijuana are probably already doing so. The country isn't going to go to **** because of it getting legalized. The states that have legalized it already are still functioning as far as I can tell.

I have not used Cannabis in 30 years. I stopped because I can not afford a criminal charge for using it, not because I feel it is dangerous in any way. Honestly...I would use it if it was legal. I would however use it in a healthier fashion than I did in my youth. I quit smoking Tobacco about 15 years ago and don't want to smoke anything again including Cannabis.

Some studies have shown that when a substance is decriminalized that there is a spike in it's use from the curious user. That spike goes away afterwards and no real increase in usage occurs over time. This backs up your assertion that those that use something are going to use it regardless of it legal status. I guess I would be an exception to that.

There is also the "forbidden fruit" theory that goes on the assumption that a segment of users engage in trying an illegal substance because of its illegality. This theory extrapolates that making something legal makes it less attractive to the "thrill seekers". Thinking back to my youth I would agree there was that aspect to first trying Cannabis. It also explains why many first time users get so damn paranoid.

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is no joke... I've got a cousin who died from prescription drug abuse and friend (I was closer to his parents at one time) that died from cocaine abuse. You can look at volume of these drugs available and the methods and ease by which they are abused to explain the differences above. Betty Ford was famous for abuse of prescription (not recreation drugs).

Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

I can't control the habits of peaceful people. I would prefer that the dangerous black market be removed and people who seek to alter their consciences be able to do so without fear of violence or a jail cell.

No one is advocating for a legal street sales of substances. I have no problem with some level of control and even prescriptions for some substances now deemed illegal.

Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I am somewhat ambivalent on the issue of drug legalization and the extent to which we have made Mexico dysfunctional due to the black market plays a big part in my thought process. My post was specifically related to deaths and this chart, which is skewed by government policy towards various drugs.

(04-29-2013 04:27 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  That has not been the case in Portugal.

I would draw zero conclusions about how things will go here based on how they may have worked in Portugal. For starters, disposable income among disaffected youth would be vastly different.

(04-30-2013 10:48 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:57 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 01:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 12:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  This is no joke... I've got a cousin who died from prescription drug abuse and friend (I was closer to his parents at one time) that died from cocaine abuse. You can look at volume of these drugs available and the methods and ease by which they are abused to explain the differences above. Betty Ford was famous for abuse of prescription (not recreation drugs).

Advocates of drug legalization should know that legalizing drugs will almost certainly decrease prices and increase the overall death rates due to drugs and the proportion of deaths related to the recreational drugs that are currently illegal. Likewise with removal of restrictions on "controlled" drugs.

I can't control the habits of peaceful people. I would prefer that the dangerous black market be removed and people who seek to alter their consciences be able to do so without fear of violence or a jail cell.

No one is advocating for a legal street sales of substances. I have no problem with some level of control and even prescriptions for some substances now deemed illegal.

Sure they are. It might not be you, but there are those who say that any drug should be legal.

But once you suggest there should be some level of control, it becomes a challenging philosophical argument as to why there should be some control, what it is, and how it should be implemented.

I'm not suggesting the current status quo should be maintained. But, I have gone through the thought process of what control should look like, and it's not easy.

I am somewhat ambivalent on the issue of drug legalization and the extent to which we have made Mexico dysfunctional due to the black market plays a big part in my thought process. My post was specifically related to deaths and this chart, which is skewed by government policy towards various drugs.

(04-29-2013 04:27 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  That has not been the case in Portugal.

I would draw zero conclusions about how things will go here based on how they may have worked in Portugal. For starters, disposable income among disaffected youth would be vastly different.

One thing the prohibitionists refuse to talk about is the fact that overdose deaths do not occur with Cannabis and yet it is classified with substances that do..and of course Alcohol is legal and people die daily from using it. If we are going to stop "harm" then why is Alcohol legal? If protecting children is the goal?..Then why do we allow a black market?Why is industrial Hemp illegal to grow? These are questions prohibitions can not answer honesty.

(04-29-2013 09:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  Nice isolation study there cheif...how is Amsterdam...are their laws the same as Portugal's....and what is the overall economy relative to how either would impact America.

This board/thread is so stupid it's not even gdm funny. It is impossible to debate this issue.

Godfkndam

They are not the same. Portugal is full decriminalization. Of EVERYTHING. Even black tar heroin.

Amsterdam is legal cannabis, only in certain venues, only in certain amounts, and it is not fully decriminalized. Might I add most of the crime associated with cannabis in Amsterdam is from tourists doing benders. Even with that, use rates and crime have gone down.

(04-30-2013 12:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 09:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  Nice isolation study there cheif...how is Amsterdam...are their laws the same as Portugal's....and what is the overall economy relative to how either would impact America.

This board/thread is so stupid it's not even gdm funny. It is impossible to debate this issue.

Godfkndam

They are not the same. Portugal is full decriminalization. Of EVERYTHING. Even black tar heroin.

Amsterdam is legal cannabis, only in certain venues, only in certain amounts, and it is not fully decriminalized. Might I add most of the crime associated with cannabis in Amsterdam is from tourists doing benders. Even with that, use rates and crime have gone down.

Portugal has full decriminalization of "specific" quantities of substances in ones possession(something like the amount one could use in a week) It is still illegal to sell or manufacture these substances. There are also some pretty horrid penalties for being caught with "excess" amounts of a substance even though jail is not one of them.

(04-30-2013 12:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(04-29-2013 09:12 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  Nice isolation study there cheif...how is Amsterdam...are their laws the same as Portugal's....and what is the overall economy relative to how either would impact America.

This board/thread is so stupid it's not even gdm funny. It is impossible to debate this issue.

Godfkndam

They are not the same. Portugal is full decriminalization. Of EVERYTHING. Even black tar heroin.

Amsterdam is legal cannabis, only in certain venues, only in certain amounts, and it is not fully decriminalized. Might I add most of the crime associated with cannabis in Amsterdam is from tourists doing benders. Even with that, use rates and crime have gone down.

For the Cannabis user...The Netherlands is the best spot. I have a friend that travels there often and he says no one hassles you about it as long as you use some common sense. You are correct about the "tourists". Often the problems come from people that have never used Cannabis before and decide to give it a try. The coffee shops try to warn first time users and give them very small doses rolled in tobacco. People think they can handle anything and often fail to heed advise. This leads to some seriously Fcked up people who freak out and cause problems. Anyone that has ever use weed knows what I am referring to. It takes a few times to know what levels you tolerate. Obviously doing this in public poses another problem. First timers really should do this in the privacy of their homes...not in public. Not everyone tolerates the effects well. I have seen people get very paranoid and act crazy as hell.

I can't say that I'm for complete legalization of everything, but cannabis (because it's not illegal because it's dangerous) and I'd say cocaine should be legal. That would curb worse drugs.

Also, in my experience and those that I've worked with, the deaths due to harder drugs are partly due to the method of taking them rather than the actual drug. Those with heroin pure enough to smoke don't have the same problems as someone who shoots it and their OD rates are way lower.

(04-30-2013 03:47 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I can't say that I'm for complete legalization of everything, but cannabis (because it's not illegal because it's dangerous) and I'd say cocaine should be legal. That would curb worse drugs.

Also, in my experience and those that I've worked with, the deaths due to harder drugs are partly due to the method of taking them rather than the actual drug. Those with heroin pure enough to smoke don't have the same problems as someone who shoots it and their OD rates are way lower.

When you create a black market you create incentives to "cut" drugs with other dangerous substances to increase profit margins. In free market competition this does not happen. Consumers would quickly refrain from buying product from those not giving them value for their dollar. Also in a free market producers would give accurate dosage information and the product would be consistent in potency. Both of which would reduce mistakes of overdose. I am not an advocate of total legalization, but there are obvious harm reduction qualities of removing these substances from a dangerous black market. We should not just flippantly disregard these ideas.