(04-28-2013 04:44 PM)eagleskins Wrote:  GSU just doesn't take transfers much at all. The former coach, Chrissy Hatcher did, but he was a scumbag, and an awful coach

You need to be banned from this board to for calling Chris a scumbag.
You might not have liked his offense, but name calling is uncalled for. Chris respected all of our traditions. Ourside of stuck up Grube, i never met a guy who didnt like Chris and his family.

Also, Every coach we have ever had took a transfer or two. David Young ring a bell? Rob Baronus?
Now if you meant Brayn Van-Go-nad was a scum bag, then I'm with you.

You are entitled to your opinions on his coaching but Chris is a good coach and he has proven that with National Championships at the D2 level. His system didnt work at Southern, but honestly we didnt give him long enough. My issue wasnt that his system wasnt to full speed yet, but rather that winning with it was going to be harder to sustain over the long haul than winning with our former "system".

Chris Hatcher could really do well somewhere with big recruiting power.

I was ready to get back to the 3-O, but Chris is a stand up guy.
Taking shots at him on a personal level is beneath you. As an Eagle fan, I am going to hold you to a higher standard than that.

(04-28-2013 05:51 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 05:42 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 05:38 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  Pretty lame to say, "notice I didn't bring up the injuries", which is actually just a back door way to bring up injuries.
Excuses. App beat us fair and square. Rivalry games work that way. When you make excuses for us losing you sound like a weenie and you diminish the significance of the rivalry.

It's a fact we were injured. Our starting B-Back was recovering from his second concussion and guy behind him who had lit up App all first half was on the sideline getting IV fluids because he'd been sick all week. Behind him was a true Freshman we didn't trust to put out there so we put McKinnon in the backfield. Even with that, it didn't cause us to lose so I'm not making excuses for it.

Still waiting for a lik to a post from me bragging about the Bama loss btw.

Why would I waste my time searching for a link like your douchey friend half and half does? You message board nerds crack me up. Anybody can go over to gsufans.com and read you boasting about what we did at bama. Please.

Funny thing about your excuses is that you can't even help yourself. I don't need a recap of the game from you. I know what happened as does every other gsu or app fan. Last time I checked, injuries were a huge part of this game. Fact of the matter is that we lost. No shame in that because we fought hard.
Your excuses do a total disservice to the players and the coaches, because they never make excuses.
Way to derail a pro-gsu thread with your weeny excuses.

Eh whatever, I'm done. You won't listen to reason anyway. You don't reply to me anymore and I'll return the favor.

(04-28-2013 05:53 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 04:44 PM)eagleskins Wrote:  GSU just doesn't take transfers much at all. The former coach, Chrissy Hatcher did, but he was a scumbag, and an awful coach

You need to be banned from this board to for calling Chris a scumbag.
You might not have liked his offense, but name calling is uncalled for. Chris respected all of our traditions. Ourside of stuck up Grube, i never met a guy who didnt like Chris and his family.

Also, Every coach we have ever had took a transfer or two. David Young ring a bell? Rob Baronus?
Now if you meant Brayn Van-Go-nad was a scum bag, then I'm with you.

You are entitled to your opinions on his coaching but Chris is a good coach and he has proven that with National Championships at the D2 level. His system didnt work at Southern, but honestly we didnt give him long enough. My issue wasnt that his system wasnt to full speed yet, but rather that winning with it was going to be harder to sustain over the long haul than winning with our former "system".

Chris Hatcher could really do well somewhere with big recruiting power.

I was ready to get back to the 3-O, but Chris is a stand up guy.
Taking shots at him on a personal level are beneath you. As an Eagle fan, I am going to hold you to a higher standard than that.

You're an idiot. Paragraph 1 you chastise skins for name calling. Then in paragraph 2 you call name call BVG. Hypocritical much?
Skins is just as entitled to his opinion as you are, moron. The fact of the matter is that Hatcher sucked at GSU. He has never won anywhere where he didn't have star transfers from higher divisions. The only reason rubes like you love him so much is because he is a fellow-bumpkin.

(04-28-2013 05:58 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 05:51 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 05:42 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 05:38 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  Pretty lame to say, "notice I didn't bring up the injuries", which is actually just a back door way to bring up injuries.
Excuses. App beat us fair and square. Rivalry games work that way. When you make excuses for us losing you sound like a weenie and you diminish the significance of the rivalry.

It's a fact we were injured. Our starting B-Back was recovering from his second concussion and guy behind him who had lit up App all first half was on the sideline getting IV fluids because he'd been sick all week. Behind him was a true Freshman we didn't trust to put out there so we put McKinnon in the backfield. Even with that, it didn't cause us to lose so I'm not making excuses for it.

Still waiting for a lik to a post from me bragging about the Bama loss btw.

Why would I waste my time searching for a link like your douchey friend half and half does? You message board nerds crack me up. Anybody can go over to gsufans.com and read you boasting about what we did at bama. Please.

Funny thing about your excuses is that you can't even help yourself. I don't need a recap of the game from you. I know what happened as does every other gsu or app fan. Last time I checked, injuries were a huge part of this game. Fact of the matter is that we lost. No shame in that because we fought hard.
Your excuses do a total disservice to the players and the coaches, because they never make excuses.
Way to derail a pro-gsu thread with your weeny excuses.

Eh whatever, I'm done. You won't listen to reason anyway. You don't reply to me anymore and I'll return the favor.

No thanks. I like pointing out your errors.

(04-28-2013 04:02 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Ga Southern had the highest pick in the third round and App St was the only team with two picks. Ark St and NM St had a 7th rd.

For all the talent gap talk, this was a bit surprising.

I would be curious how many of those were transfers from FBS schools as FCS schools are more likely to get those transfers because they don't have to sit out a year.

WKU used to get a lot when we were I-AA..... This is one of the biggest differences in going 1-A, those dry up quick.

Read the thread, son. We rarely have transfers at gsu, and JJ wilcox was recruited as an eagle.

(04-28-2013 06:07 PM)CrushMI Wrote:  I would be curious how many of those were transfers from FBS schools as FCS schools are more likely to get those transfers because they don't have to sit out a year.

WKU used to get a lot when we were I-AA..... This is one of the biggest differences in going 1-A, those dry up quick.

All 3 of our players played their entire career at Southern.

(04-28-2013 06:01 PM)Walter Sobchak Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 05:53 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 04:44 PM)eagleskins Wrote:  GSU just doesn't take transfers much at all. The former coach, Chrissy Hatcher did, but he was a scumbag, and an awful coach

You need to be banned from this board to for calling Chris a scumbag.
You might not have liked his offense, but name calling is uncalled for. Chris respected all of our traditions. Ourside of stuck up Grube, i never met a guy who didnt like Chris and his family.

Also, Every coach we have ever had took a transfer or two. David Young ring a bell? Rob Baronus?
Now if you meant Brayn Van-Go-nad was a scum bag, then I'm with you.

You are entitled to your opinions on his coaching but Chris is a good coach and he has proven that with National Championships at the D2 level. His system didnt work at Southern, but honestly we didnt give him long enough. My issue wasnt that his system wasnt to full speed yet, but rather that winning with it was going to be harder to sustain over the long haul than winning with our former "system".

Chris Hatcher could really do well somewhere with big recruiting power.

I was ready to get back to the 3-O, but Chris is a stand up guy.
Taking shots at him on a personal level are beneath you. As an Eagle fan, I am going to hold you to a higher standard than that.

You're an idiot. Paragraph 1 you chastise skins for name calling. Then in paragraph 2 you call name call BVG. Hypocritical much?
Skins is just as entitled to his opinion as you are, moron. The fact of the matter is that Hatcher sucked at GSU. He has never won anywhere where he didn't have star transfers from higher divisions. The only reason rubes like you love him so much is because he is a fellow-bumpkin.

I said that name calling was uncalled for in Chris's case.
Byan Van-DumbArse deserves name calling.

I said he was entitled to his opinion. He doesnt have to like his coaching, call it terrible if you want to.

The difference is that Hatcher NEVER insulted our University or program. Did you see the exit interview from BVGetthehellouttatown?
He took pot shots at just about everything GSU.

Any mistakes that C.Hather may have made were done in good faith.
The guy treated us and everyone associated with the program with class though - Total opposite of BVG. There is a time and place for name calling, Chris doesnt deserve it. And our fans like him who bash the Hatcher name on public forums are hurting our recruiting in places in this State. Hatcher comes from a well known coaching family and they are connected throughout this state with former players, etc.. running or being involved in many highschools around here. BVG is a transplant where the same doesnt hold true. So, if you really "bleed blue", then I'd suggest that you,he our whoever keep the uncalled for running in the dirt of a good name in check in a public forum. Do what is best for the program, BIG TEAM little me.

The record Hatcher had would have been welcomed at a lot of places.
It wasnt what we do, and wasnt up to our standards of success, I had no problem going the way we did - when we did. I did have an issue with the how it was done though. We let him go, we dont need to also insult the guy as he did the best he could for us and showed respect for our proram.

I have no personal beef with you. Calling me names doesnt help anything either. Guess anyone who has a problem with anything your buddy says there is instantly on your bad side. I dont like to see anyone attack fellow eagles. That includes fans like you and our former loyal coaches, players etc. BVG is the only person not covered by this imop.

(04-28-2013 04:32 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  also need to keep in mind your NFL talent pool is going to wane when folks can't transfer and play immediately.

It's really weird how everyone else in the world seems to think GaSo and App have all these transfers
continuously, when neither have hardly ever taken any transfers and when we do they normally do not
pan out.

(04-28-2013 06:37 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 04:32 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  also need to keep in mind your NFL talent pool is going to wane when folks can't transfer and play immediately.

It's really weird how everyone else in the world seems to think GaSo and App have all these transfers
continuously, when neither have hardly ever taken any transfers and when we do they normally do not
pan out.

Travaris Cadet is about the one only one who has panned out in recent years.

(04-28-2013 06:37 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 04:32 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  also need to keep in mind your NFL talent pool is going to wane when folks can't transfer and play immediately.

It's really weird how everyone else in the world seems to think GaSo and App have all these transfers
continuously, when neither have hardly ever taken any transfers and when we do they normally do not
pan out.

Troy takes in a few transfers and they rarely pan out either. We've had a few good ones, but the BAMA throw outs we get from time to time never see the field.

(04-28-2013 06:37 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 04:32 PM)Tiguar Wrote:  also need to keep in mind your NFL talent pool is going to wane when folks can't transfer and play immediately.

It's really weird how everyone else in the world seems to think GaSo and App have all these transfers
continuously, when neither have hardly ever taken any transfers and when we do they normally do not
pan out.

Yeah really. Off the top of my head I can think of one major contributor in the last 5 years who was a transfer (traveris cadet). And if I remember correctly, he went from Toledo to a community college for a year before coming to app, so he didn't even take advantage of the FCS rule.

On our current roster, the only transfer I know of is Tacoi Summler. ESPN had him as the 11th ranked WR in the 2011 class, and he transferred from Oregon last year. He barely saw the field, and he might have a shot to be our 5th receiver this year.

I don't like the constant FCS chest thumping, but it's even worse when people have no idea what they are talking about and make stuff up. App and Georgia Southern do not rely on FBS transfers, they barely make a dent.

Whether you do or not, we have 4 guys (there were more but these are D guys) that are FBS transfers who sat out:
Mike Orakpo
D J Yendry
Kingsley Ike
Donald Hopkins
who will make a significant impact and improvement on our D for 2013.

You will now be recruiting FBS level talent and I bet you get some transfers. Whether they pan out or not is also a different issue.

It's not really fair to judge FCS move-ups until year 3 or 4 when they've had a full cycle to get up to speed with recruiting and depth. Judging us and GaSo in 2014 and even 2015 certainly would be premature. Give us a few years.

(04-28-2013 07:32 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Whether you do or not, we have 4 guys (there were more but these are D guys) that are FBS transfers who sat out:
Mike Orakpo
D J Yendry
Kingsley Ike
Donald Hopkins
who will make a significant impact and improvement on our D for 2013.

You will now be recruiting FBS level talent and I bet you get some transfers. Whether they pan out or not is also a different issue.

Oh I'm sure we will get some transfers now that we have more scholarships and have a new coach. Didn't mean to imply that there is anything wrong with relying on transfers. Just correcting some people who incorrectly assume that the only way we could get a player drafted is to take transfers from an FBS school. I would guess we are near the top of the league in players drafted over the last 5 years, and every one of them started at App.

(04-28-2013 07:58 PM)HappyAppy Wrote:  

(04-28-2013 07:32 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Whether you do or not, we have 4 guys (there were more but these are D guys) that are FBS transfers who sat out:
Mike Orakpo
D J Yendry
Kingsley Ike
Donald Hopkins
who will make a significant impact and improvement on our D for 2013.

You will now be recruiting FBS level talent and I bet you get some transfers. Whether they pan out or not is also a different issue.

Oh I'm sure we will get some transfers now that we have more scholarships and have a new coach. Didn't mean to imply that there is anything wrong with relying on transfers. Just correcting some people who incorrectly assume that the only way we could get a player drafted is to take transfers from an FBS school. I would guess we are near the top of the league in players drafted over the last 5 years, and every one of them started at App.

Happy,
I understand this as, being a former FCS school, we're well aware of App and GaSouth and the players they send along.
I think we'll see more interest in TXST players in the next few years.

3 win FIU's Cyprien was picked well ahead of Wilcox and 3 win FIU had 2 players drafted plus another 2 UDFA. You GaSou fans need to pick, either when picked/number of drafts means you have a competitive program (therefore 3 win FIU was more competitive that GaSou) or having a couple of NFL caliber players has no correlation to competitiveness of a program.

You can't have it both ways.

(04-28-2013 04:44 PM)eagleskins Wrote:  GSU just doesn't take transfers much at all. The former coach, Chrissy Hatcher did, but he was a scumbag, and an awful coach

Wow, take it easy on Hatcher. He wasn't a scumbag nor was he an awful coach. His system just didn't fit in with ours. Honestly, I think that if he had also had the 2006 Vangoober year under him, 2007 would have gone much much better.