(05-01-2013 09:39 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 09:17 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 09:00 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  [quote='bearcatlawjd' pid='9285742' dateline='1367414893']


The AAC should have a good NCAA outlook. With UCONN, Cinci, Temple, and Memphis, there is a strong core. With Larry Brown at SMU and UCF being a borderline breakthrough program we could be looking at 5 or 6 bids for a 12 team league. Not bad for a league that was supposed to be DOA. Football is where we're going to have to play over our heads a good bit. That distance isn't far though. What I worry about is that the league is too good in terms of parity and our top program can't get through a season with one or zero losses.

Not so fast on the prospects for basketball. Temple will be in major rebuilding mode next year since they lost a ton of talent from this year's team. Although they offer good prospects for the long run, the're not the John Chaney Temple program from the 1990's. They've missed the tournament as often as they've made it over the past dozen years. The same can be said for Cincinnati who has also missed the tournament as often as they've made it since they joined the Big East. This is not the Bob Huggins Cincy program any more.

I'm not trying to be negative about either of these programs and I believe that both are headed in the right direction with good coaches and great fan support. But I don't think that either can be taken for granted either with the assumption that they'll always be there when the postseason rolls around. I hope that's the case, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Any assumptions about rising programs at SMU, UCF, etc. are premature. Larry Brown is in his 70's. he'll turn out some good teams but he no longer has the energy that he once did. I can't see him turning SMU into a perennial contend any more than Bob Knight did at Texas Tech. As for UCF, USF, etc., it takes a lot of work to build a successful program. Those schools have the basic ingredients, but it' not going to happen just because there's been a good recruiting class or two, or because there's been a tournament appearance here or there. again, we'll just have to wait and see.

The best thing that the AAC has going for it next year is the fact that Louisville will still be around. They should battle with UConn and Memphis. That could get the league off to a terrific start in its first year.

I cannot speak to Temple or SMU, however UC went through a major rebuild. When Cronin took over there was literally one scholarship player on the roster. Since then Cronin has steadily rebuilt the program in what was the toughest bball conf. Cronin has recently been to 3 straight NCAA's, a Sweet 16, and made the finals of the BE tourny 2 years ago. Now he has one of his best recruiting classes coming into Cincy. I am not proclaiming UC a NC contender, however the UC program is trending upward currently. I do not see a complete backslide at this point.

I agree. Cronin is a good coach and has this program headed in the right direction.

I'm just not willing to project this program as the power that they once were until they've actually done it. getting to the Sweet 16 is one thing, but repeating it and getting to the Elite 8, and then getting to the Final 4 is a whole differ level.

I like Mick and hope he'll do just that. But he hasn't done it yet, so we'll have to wait and see just how far he can take this program. He's not there yet. Same has to be said about Kevin Ollie here at UConn. He's off to a promising start, but hasn't accomplished anything yet.

(05-01-2013 09:31 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 09:17 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  Not so fast on the prospects for basketball. Temple will be in major rebuilding mode next year since they lost a ton of talent from this year's team. Although they offer good prospects for the long run, the're not the John Chaney Temple program from the 1990's. They've missed the tournament as often as they've made it over the past dozen years.

That's somewhat misleading there. Temple has been to 6 straight the past dozen years from 2008-2013. They made the NIT from 2002-2006. Prior to that they went every season from 1990-2001. From where I'm looking Temple looks like possibly the most consistent program in the league.

From where I sit, it was John Chaney who took Temple to all those tournaments and Elite 8's in 1990-2001. Fran hash not had the program at that level. It's one thing to make the tournament out of a league like the A10. It's something else to actually win some games once you're there. Temple had a nice little run this year, but they've got to do mo of that. And next year doesn't paper like the yer they will.

(05-01-2013 10:28 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 09:39 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 09:17 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 09:00 AM)ultraviolet Wrote:  [quote='bearcatlawjd' pid='9285742' dateline='1367414893']


The AAC should have a good NCAA outlook. With UCONN, Cinci, Temple, and Memphis, there is a strong core. With Larry Brown at SMU and UCF being a borderline breakthrough program we could be looking at 5 or 6 bids for a 12 team league. Not bad for a league that was supposed to be DOA. Football is where we're going to have to play over our heads a good bit. That distance isn't far though. What I worry about is that the league is too good in terms of parity and our top program can't get through a season with one or zero losses.

Not so fast on the prospects for basketball. Temple will be in major rebuilding mode next year since they lost a ton of talent from this year's team. Although they offer good prospects for the long run, the're not the John Chaney Temple program from the 1990's. They've missed the tournament as often as they've made it over the past dozen years. The same can be said for Cincinnati who has also missed the tournament as often as they've made it since they joined the Big East. This is not the Bob Huggins Cincy program any more.

I'm not trying to be negative about either of these programs and I believe that both are headed in the right direction with good coaches and great fan support. But I don't think that either can be taken for granted either with the assumption that they'll always be there when the postseason rolls around. I hope that's the case, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Any assumptions about rising programs at SMU, UCF, etc. are premature. Larry Brown is in his 70's. he'll turn out some good teams but he no longer has the energy that he once did. I can't see him turning SMU into a perennial contend any more than Bob Knight did at Texas Tech. As for UCF, USF, etc., it takes a lot of work to build a successful program. Those schools have the basic ingredients, but it' not going to happen just because there's been a good recruiting class or two, or because there's been a tournament appearance here or there. again, we'll just have to wait and see.

The best thing that the AAC has going for it next year is the fact that Louisville will still be around. They should battle with UConn and Memphis. That could get the league off to a terrific start in its first year.

I cannot speak to Temple or SMU, however UC went through a major rebuild. When Cronin took over there was literally one scholarship player on the roster. Since then Cronin has steadily rebuilt the program in what was the toughest bball conf. Cronin has recently been to 3 straight NCAA's, a Sweet 16, and made the finals of the BE tourny 2 years ago. Now he has one of his best recruiting classes coming into Cincy. I am not proclaiming UC a NC contender, however the UC program is trending upward currently. I do not see a complete backslide at this point.

I agree. Cronin is a good coach and has this program headed in the right direction.

I'm just not willing to project this program as the power that they once were until they've actually done it. getting to the Sweet 16 is one thing, but repeating it and getting to the Elite 8, and then getting to the Final 4 is a whole differ level.

I like Mick and hope he'll do just that. But he hasn't done it yet, so we'll have to wait and see just how far he can take this program. He's not there yet. Same has to be said about Kevin Ollie here at UConn. He's off to a promising start, but hasn't accomplished anything yet.

To be fair Bob Huggins fell of in his later years. He made the Final 4 in 1992, Elite 8 in 1993, Elite 8 again in 1996 and then just 1 Sweet 16 (in 2001) for the rest of his tenure at UC.

I think Mick can get UC back to the level of a yearly NCAA tournament team, with the occasional Sweet 16 and Elite 8. A Final 4 would be nice too.

Melky - Cronin certainly needs to continue to prove himself. No argument there. However, to dismiss UC in your conversation of uofl/uconn/memphis battling it out for the conf is erroneous. Ollie had one good year with Calhoun's players. He is an unknow at this point.

(05-01-2013 09:30 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  I think cincy fans better be ready for 500 records, there window has opened and closed

You've been on the Good Ship Lollipop too long.

Seriously, why would you post this?

With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

Because Tubby is a douche mcgoush

This BearcatGatorKnight is excited about this new conference!!! It's going to be a blast seeing my teams play each other!!!

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

I think it makes Cincinnati look smart, and not foolish. T Tech AD was running his mouth publicly about scheduling Cincinnati because Tubberville took the Cincinnati job. Kliff Kingsbury did the same thing. ADs handle this stuff privately and professionally. Tech's ego got hurt and they acted like children.
Very very old news by the way.
From December.
http://coachingsearch.com/home/2006-klif...-year.html

Christy said one of the more popular T-shirts selling right now is something that says to the extent of, ‘Schedule Cincinnati.’
(how pathetic is that?)

“I kind of got caught up in the emotion of the deal,” Kingsbury said. “Being a Red Raider and having so much pride in this program, if you feel like someone maybe shorted your program a little bit, you know, you’re going to take exception to it. And that’s all that was.”
http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews.com/...nati.html/

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

What team do you root for?

(05-01-2013 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

What team do you root for?

A team called the AAC.... A group of individual schools that have come together despite the great odds stacked against them to succeed. Consequently, that series was very important for obvious reasons. A win against TT would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. More importantly, it would have helped separate the AAC from the MWC. Nevertheless, I will be rooting for SMU to stampede TT on 08/30/13!

(05-01-2013 03:10 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

What team do you root for?

A team called the AAC.... A group of individual schools that have come together despite the great odds stacked against them to succeed. Consequently, that series was very important for obvious reasons. A win against TT would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. More importantly, it would have helped separate the AAC from the MWC. Nevertheless, I will be rooting for SMU to stampede TT on 08/30/13!

Bearcats have plenty of non-conference tests against quality opponents on their future schedule, and I would bet they add more. There simply was no reason for them to send Tuberville into Lubbock. Cats play Illinois/Purdue this year. In the coming years they have games against Ohio State (2x), Michigan, BYU (2x), Toledo, and Purdue again.

(05-01-2013 03:27 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 03:10 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

What team do you root for?

A team called the AAC.... A group of individual schools that have come together despite the great odds stacked against them to succeed. Consequently, that series was very important for obvious reasons. A win against TT would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. More importantly, it would have helped separate the AAC from the MWC. Nevertheless, I will be rooting for SMU to stampede TT on 08/30/13!

Bearcats have plenty of non-conference tests against quality opponents on their future schedule, and I would bet they had more. There simply was no reason for them to send Tuberville into Lubbock. Cats play Illinois/Purdue this year. In the coming years they have games against Ohio State (2x), Michigan, BYU (2x), Toledo, and Purdue again.

Thanks for the explanation.... I understand your point. However, I hope UC can eventually schedule a series with TT.

(05-01-2013 03:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 03:27 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 03:10 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

What team do you root for?

A team called the AAC.... A group of individual schools that have come together despite the great odds stacked against them to succeed. Consequently, that series was very important for obvious reasons. A win against TT would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. More importantly, it would have helped separate the AAC from the MWC. Nevertheless, I will be rooting for SMU to stampede TT on 08/30/13!

Bearcats have plenty of non-conference tests against quality opponents on their future schedule, and I would bet they had more. There simply was no reason for them to send Tuberville into Lubbock. Cats play Illinois/Purdue this year. In the coming years they have games against Ohio State (2x), Michigan, BYU (2x), Toledo, and Purdue again.

Thanks for the explanation.... I understand your point. However, I hope UC can eventually schedule a series with TT.

Would rather play another Big 12 team or regional opponents so UC fans can make the away trip............like Purdue, Illinois, Ohio State, Ohio etc.
Playing in Lubbock makes no sense, even more so now that we will play SMU and Houston in conference. Nobody wants to go to Lubbock.

(05-01-2013 03:10 PM)Underdog Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:48 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(05-01-2013 02:34 PM)Underdog Wrote:  With all the talk on the AAC board about its schools improving their ooc schedule, why would Cincinnati turn down a series against a BIG XII opponent? Winning that series would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. I don't understand the logic in turning down a series against a BIG XII opponent like TT. How do you think that makes Cincinnati and the AAC look?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football...nnati-game

What team do you root for?

A team called the AAC.... A group of individual schools that have come together despite the great odds stacked against them to succeed. Consequently, that series was very important for obvious reasons. A win against TT would have boosted the imagine of the AAC. More importantly, it would have helped separate the AAC from the MWC. Nevertheless, I will be rooting for SMU to stampede TT on 08/30/13!

Quit playing around.

Cincy thinks somebody owes them something. Deal with it OP, we're coming for that ass this year.

(04-24-2013 08:54 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 11:55 PM)UCbball21 Wrote:  I don't think I will ever be happy as a fan as long as we are in this conference. Obviously I will continue to support Cincinnati in every way possible but every win Cincinnati gets, my satisfaction gained will be conditional. Conditional in the sense that I don't care if we beat Memphis, UCF, USF, etc., all I care about is elevating our program over everyone else so that when the music starts, whenever that may be, Cincinnati won't be left without a chair again.

In two years, Cincinnati has lost its AQ status, membership in the best basketball conference in the nation, its biggest rival (to a much better conference), a F**K ton of money, and will watch Xavier get elevated to comparable status taking MSG with them to boot...and you know what? Cincinnati did nothing wrong, they competed at the highest level in football earning 2 BCS berths, they rebuilt their basketball program after it was completely destroyed to a Sweet 16 run, have made a commitment to renovate Nippert and support its two main sports financially (coaches salaries, indoor practice facilities), and have vastly improved both their academics and campus infrastructure. Sure the city of Cincinnati could have supported their team better. Unlike Louisville, we have to compete with the Bengals and the Reds for fans but still 35k perpetually in the stands should have been doable. Regardless, Cincinnati proved it on the field and on the court time and time again that they belong in the club...instead we were left out in the cold, typical Bearcat luck.

Every single UConn and Cincinnati fan, and to a lesser extent USF fan, has gotten completely screwed and should be severely depressed by the events that have transpired these past two years. Time isn't changing anything, if anything it will only make it worst. Not one of our programs can compete with the good to elite P5 football programs with that money differential as time goes on. Hell, the mediocre to bottom-dweller programs will be tougher to compete with in recruiting and, consequentially, on the field.

The P5 is slowly starving out the lesser programs. Eventually stipends will be permitted to college players and competing at even a comparable level will be impossible to almost every program not in the P5. College sports becomes more and more of a sham every day, even still, I hope the Bearcats are apart of it instead of being left behind fading into irrelevance.

With that said, go Bearcats...I hope we dominate every god d@mn school in football and basketball in this joke of a conference so none of you get that potential chair when the music starts over us. Cincinnati has no friends in this sh!t conference...every other program should feel the exact same way.

Boo hoo. Wait until we start dominating you again.

.

And just how is Miami going to start dominating Cincinnati again? Please explain. Will it be from your new dynamic coaching staff that is paid little or next to nothing? Will it come from the great new AD that Miami hired, hired after the previous AD could not wait to leave Oxford, Ohio? Will it be from the enormous amount of recruits that will magically flock towards Oxford in search of the great football career and 270 Ohio CEO's? Will it be from intense prayer from the Miami University faithful, hoping and waiting for the next good player and a possible win against Cincinnati? Maybe it will come from all the dollars the program will bring in when Miami fills it's huge Yager Stadium??? Will it be from that mangy mascot of some sort of ill bird roaming around the sidelines? Take note of the 7 game winning streak from 2006 to 2012. Now that's a boo hoo if I ever read one !!! The hatred of the Miami program runs deep in Cincinnati too. This thread was about how Cincinnati fans feel about the changes. Not how trolls from Miami University think they can talk smack when their program is in the toilet and has lost to Cincinnati seven times in a row. Here is some advice, go have a couple stiff drinks or a stupid green beer, hang out on the railroad tracks and hope for the best !!

9/30/06- Cincinnati 24 Miami 10
9/10/07- Cincinnati 47 Miami 10
9/20/08- Cincinnati 45 Miami 20
10/3/09- Cincinnati 37 Miami 13
10/9/10- Cincinnati 45 Miami 3
10/1/11- Cincinnati 27 Miami 0
10/6/12- Cincinnati 52 Miami 14


BOO HOO !!!!!

(05-01-2013 10:30 PM)Cougar King Wrote:  Cincy thinks somebody owes them something. Deal with it OP, we're coming for that ass this year.

Nobody owes us anything CougarKing. If your coming for our ass, you better be coming with something better than a 5-7 Cougar team that collapsed in 2012. Get it ?? Are you kidding, losses to Texas State Bobcats and Louisiana Tech? We kicked Houston's tail in C-USA and will continue in the AAC.

(05-01-2013 11:21 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  Melky - Cronin certainly needs to continue to prove himself. No argument there. However, to dismiss UC in your conversation of uofl/uconn/memphis battling it out for the conf is erroneous. Ollie had one good year with Calhoun's players. He is an unknow at this point.

Good point. Ollie is playing with nothing but Calhouns players. In five we shall see how this works out. My guess is that it won't be the second coming of Calhoun.

(05-01-2013 09:30 AM)shirley temple Wrote:  I think cincy fans better be ready for 500 records, there window has opened and closed

Who is going to take us to 500 Shirley? Those thugs in Memphis? Are you kidding. You guys have been beating up on next to nothing in CUSA, now your going to dominate the new league? Besides this thread is for Cincinnati fans perceptions about the new league.