(04-15-2013 05:37 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 11:34 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  It makes sense for Davidson to move with the SoCon crumbling, but they need to buck up in their other sports. They are underfunded and underperforming in all sports not named basketball.

Pfft, the only A10 members that take the olympic sports seriously are Richmond, UMass and Charlotte, and Charlotte is leaving. Sad truth is nobody in the A10 would raise the slightest protest if Davidson went non-scholarship in everything except basketball.

They would still have to buck up their Olympic sports to at least go from underperfoming in the SoCon to underperforming in the A-10. If they are having trouble in a bus league, then they can't keep everything the same when moving to a charter plane league.

(04-16-2013 07:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 05:37 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 11:34 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  It makes sense for Davidson to move with the SoCon crumbling, but they need to buck up in their other sports. They are underfunded and underperforming in all sports not named basketball.

Pfft, the only A10 members that take the olympic sports seriously are Richmond, UMass and Charlotte, and Charlotte is leaving.

You forgot Dayton.

I was basing that on the number of A10 Championships won in the "olympic" sports. UMass, Richmond and Charlotte lead with 26, 23 and 22 respectively since the A10 expanded to 14 members. Charlotte will probably move ahead of Richmond before they turn in their A10 badge, as they're strongest at the spring sports. Dayton is next after the top three, but only has 10 championships. But I suppose it's unfair to say that Dayton doesn't take those sports seriously just because of that. They could be finishing 2nd at everything. And they've won 4 in the past season and a half, same as UMass and Richmond.

Duquesne hasn't won at anything since 2005. Davidson could surely do better than that. Being the only true southern team in the A10 (or one of two if you count VCU -- U.Richmond students are yankees ) would be an inherent advantage in some sports, especially golf and baseball. They don't have that advantage in the SoCon.

I'm surprised by this. Davidson barely has enough money to field a basketball team.

(04-17-2013 06:04 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  

(04-16-2013 07:46 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(04-15-2013 05:37 AM)LastMinuteman Wrote:  

(04-14-2013 11:34 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  It makes sense for Davidson to move with the SoCon crumbling, but they need to buck up in their other sports. They are underfunded and underperforming in all sports not named basketball.

Pfft, the only A10 members that take the olympic sports seriously are Richmond, UMass and Charlotte, and Charlotte is leaving.

You forgot Dayton.

I was basing that on the number of A10 Championships won in the "olympic" sports. UMass, Richmond and Charlotte lead with 26, 23 and 22 respectively since the A10 expanded to 14 members. Charlotte will probably move ahead of Richmond before they turn in their A10 badge, as they're strongest at the spring sports. Dayton is next after the top three, but only has 10 championships. But I suppose it's unfair to say that Dayton doesn't take those sports seriously just because of that. They could be finishing 2nd at everything. And they've won 4 in the past season and a half, same as UMass and Richmond.

Fair enough. I was looking at Director's Cup results the last several years. There's no doubt some A-10 schools just don't care about their athletics, or at least that's been the gripe I've heard since, well, forever.

1. Why are they skipping the CAA ?
2. Why do they want to be a southern outpost in a northeastern based league ?

(04-17-2013 06:09 AM)DeacKillsaDevil Wrote:  I'm surprised by this. Davidson barely has enough money to field a basketball team.

Davidson has some wealthy backers.

I don't really find it a good move for Davidson though. They really had trouble dealing with Charlotte's athleticism this year. They were the far more skilled team, but our physical defense took them completely out of their game. VCU would have an absolute field day with Davidson.

If Davidson starts missing the tournament with any regularity, they lose the one major recruiting pitch they can give to good players.

I just don't think it's a good move for them. Staying put would allow them to continue dominating the SoCon and going to the tournament every year.

(04-23-2013 08:34 AM)darkdragon99 Wrote:  1. Why are they skipping the CAA ?
2. Why do they want to be a southern outpost in a northeastern based league ?

At this point, the A10 has as many teams in bus range of Davidson as the CAA does. The 4 CAA teams in bus range are closer than the 4 A10 teams, but the A10 has a huge edge in TV and tournament revenue, and obviously basketball quality. The best RPI among returning CAA members is future addition Charleston's 133. The A10 has 7 returning members better than that, and 2 more just under it. The best RPI among the returning SoCon teams excluding Davidson was Elon's 177, and the remaining 7 were 244+. There were no A10 teams in the 230+ range last season. There's just no comparison right now, and there are no teams that the CAA could realistically add within the next year that would bridge the gap.

The A10 is recovering nicely from the BE raid of Xavier, Butler and soon Dayton & St Louis and Temple moving to the AAC.

Davidson had a heck of a year this year, they lost to Marquette in the opening round of the tourney by only 1 pt. With them, George Mason, VCU, LaSalle, UMass , URI and George Washington; that conference is solid.

Bit of an update here. Davidson is having an Alumni Weekend on June 7-9. The following is listed in the early itinerary for June 8th.

Quote:9:45 a.m. – 10:15 a.m.
Conference Update
Listen as Athletic Director, Jim Murphy ’78, discusses the potential move to the A-10 and what that means for Davidson College Athletics.

Also, the SoCon meetings are at the end of May. I'm sure the Davidson people don't want to be grilled by a bitter SoCon who just lost App St and GaSo so they would be wise to have their intentions known by then. Some Davidson insiders feel like a decision will be made in the next couple of weeks by the next BOT meeting on May 19th.

The drumbeat grows louder.

(05-07-2013 03:05 AM)T-Dog Wrote:  Bit of an update here. Davidson is having an Alumni Weekend on June 7-9. The following is listed in the early itinerary for June 8th.

Quote:9:45 a.m. – 10:15 a.m.
Conference Update
Listen as Athletic Director, Jim Murphy ’78, discusses the potential move to the A-10 and what that means for Davidson College Athletics.

Also, the SoCon meetings are at the end of May. I'm sure the Davidson people don't want to be grilled by a bitter SoCon who just lost App St and GaSo so they would be wise to have their intentions known by then. Some Davidson insiders feel like a decision will be made in the next couple of weeks by the next BOT meeting on May 19th.

The drumbeat grows louder.

SoCon just lost their two best basketball schools AND their two best football schools. Wofford must not be thrilled.

Cannot understand why the SoCon seems to have no interest in Kennesaw State, with them starting football, given their location.

Believe Davidson would do well in the A-10 if this is true.

(05-07-2013 08:22 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Cannot understand why the SoCon seems to have no interest in Kennesaw State, with them starting football, given their location.

Believe Davidson would do well in the A-10 if this is true.

We've learned not to count our chickens until they are hatched with these basketball conference moves. Remember UIC to the MVC?

It does sound like a move by Davidson is imminent though. Who would have thought they would ever leave the Socon? It a good institutional move for the school of you look at the quality of schools in the A10 vs. the Southern Conference and to recruit more students from the East Coast.

Announcement tomorrow. That was quick.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...ource-says

ESPN's Andy Katz confirming.

A10
Davidson
Dayton (Big East Candidate)
Duquesne
Fordham
George Mason
George Washington
La Salle
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Richmond (Big East Candidate)
St. Bonaventure
St. Joe's
St. Louis (Big East Candidate)
VCU (Big East Candidate)

The Big East will absorb two of Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, and VCU; leaving the A10 with twelve members.

Good for Davidson. They fit in well in the A10 especially with its stronger southern presence. The A10 has been very smart about realignment this past decade. They loaded up on the best schools they could. They saw that their future was in basketball with a more southern geography. They moved their headquarters to Virginia to prove to southern schools they were serious. Kudos to them

(05-07-2013 02:03 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  A10
Davidson
Dayton (Big East Candidate)
Duquesne
Fordham
George Mason
George Washington
La Salle
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Richmond (Big East Candidate)
St. Bonaventure
St. Joe's
St. Louis (Big East Candidate)
VCU (Big East Candidate)

The Big East will absorb two of Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, and VCU; leaving the A10 with twelve members.

If Dayton isn't a Big East pick, wouldn't the A10 pick up one more midwestern school as a travel partner: namely Detroit?

Would have bet on Siena before Davidson. Guess losing one of VCU / Richmond made it imperative that the remaining Richmond school had a travel partner? Or was NC recruiting and market presence more important?

Things are finally settling down among the quality basketball conferences:

Big East (Creighton, Butler, Xavier)
Atlantic 10 (George Mason, Davidson)
Missouri Valley (Loyola IL)
Horizon (Oakland)

The question I think is if the Horizon League will go for more? I know they've played with 9 members in the past but there is only a handful of leagues with less than 10 members (Ivy, Summit, WAC) operating with the Summit and WAC hardly operating under 10 by choice.

(05-07-2013 02:21 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-07-2013 02:03 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  A10
Davidson
Dayton (Big East Candidate)
Duquesne
Fordham
George Mason
George Washington
La Salle
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Richmond (Big East Candidate)
St. Bonaventure
St. Joe's
St. Louis (Big East Candidate)
VCU (Big East Candidate)

The Big East will absorb two of Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, and VCU; leaving the A10 with twelve members.

If Dayton isn't a Big East pick, wouldn't the A10 pick up one more midwestern school as a travel partner: namely Detroit?

Would have bet on Siena before Davidson. Guess losing one of VCU / Richmond made it imperative that the remaining Richmond school had a travel partner? Or was NC recruiting and market presence more important?

Stephen Curry.

(05-07-2013 02:03 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  A10
Davidson
Dayton (Big East Candidate)
Duquesne
Fordham
George Mason
George Washington
La Salle
Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Richmond (Big East Candidate)
St. Bonaventure
St. Joe's
St. Louis (Big East Candidate)
VCU (Big East Candidate)

The Big East will absorb two of Dayton, Richmond, St. Louis, and VCU; leaving the A10 with twelve members.

If Dayton and SLU join the Big East, then the A-10 is very compact geographically.