I want to see Aggie Memorial Stadium razed to the ground, then turned into a manure recycling center for all the sh1t coming out of Las Cruces.

(04-22-2013 10:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I was watching the mayoral debates and noticed that all but one of the candidates thought that tearing down city hall was a bad idea.

If the majority of people in this city wanted to see city hall demolished, why then would 8 of the 9 say it was a bad idea?

yeah, that is why it passed the vote, that is why every poll you linked on this board showed that more than 60% were in favor of the stadium. Time for you crazies to move on. Sorry, but you're in the minority, fit.

(04-22-2013 12:48 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-22-2013 10:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I was watching the mayoral debates and noticed that all but one of the candidates thought that tearing down city hall was a bad idea.

If the majority of people in this city wanted to see city hall demolished, why then would 8 of the 9 say it was a bad idea?

yeah, that is why it passed the vote, that is why every poll you linked on this board showed that more than 60% were in favor of the stadium. Time for you crazies to move on. Sorry, but you're in the minority, fit.

The city never voted to demolish city hall.

Why would 8 out of 9 mayoral candidates run a campaign that says that demolishing city hall was a bad idea.

Wouldn't they have a majority of el pasoans agianst them on that one issue if that was the case?

What do they know that we don't know?

Or...

Steve Ortega already has the votes of the people who are fine with the demolition of City Hall.

Therefore, if an opposing candidate wants a legit chance of winning the election, he almost has to sound off against the demolition of City Hall to get the vote of people who were against it.

Simple math. Simple politics.

(04-21-2013 12:43 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-20-2013 01:00 AM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  The Eiffel Tower is a landmark
The John Hancock Building
The Sears Tower
Dodger Stadium
St Louis Arch
The Lincoln Memorial
etc.

Those are landmarks.... Now tell me Asarco smoke stack is a landmark. OR a city building from the 70s is a landmark.

As the name indicates, a landmark is an identifying item, place, or thing, that tells a person where they are. If a person is not from El Paso, the city building and the Asarco stack would not be readily identifiable to them.... In fact, they would ask, "Where the f--k am I?".

If you think ASARCO isn't a landmark then you must not be a native of El Paso . After many long trips, there was nothing more assuring than seeing the smoke stack. It let me know that I was almost home.

You live in Anapra?

(04-23-2013 04:44 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Or...

Steve Ortega already has the votes of the people who are fine with the demolition of City Hall.

Therefore, if an opposing candidate wants a legit chance of winning the election, he almost has to sound off against the demolition of City Hall to get the vote of people who were against it.

Simple math. Simple politics.

That is a good point. So then if Steve Ortega wins, is it fair to say that this is confirmation that the majority of the city agrees with the direction the city is taking?

What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

(04-24-2013 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

Of course not.

I am in favor of the ball club. I am okay with the demolition of City Hall. Yet I am not voting for Ortega.

(04-24-2013 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 04:44 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Or...

Steve Ortega already has the votes of the people who are fine with the demolition of City Hall.

Therefore, if an opposing candidate wants a legit chance of winning the election, he almost has to sound off against the demolition of City Hall to get the vote of people who were against it.

Simple math. Simple politics.

That is a good point. So then if Steve Ortega wins, is it fair to say that this is confirmation that the majority of the city agrees with the direction the city is taking?

What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

can you please link all candidates platform? You've been proven a pos liar before, so now I want facts... Hell, you claimed to be a soccer coach, and obviously that is not true. You're a crazy

(04-24-2013 08:12 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 04:44 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Or...

Steve Ortega already has the votes of the people who are fine with the demolition of City Hall.

Therefore, if an opposing candidate wants a legit chance of winning the election, he almost has to sound off against the demolition of City Hall to get the vote of people who were against it.

Simple math. Simple politics.

That is a good point. So then if Steve Ortega wins, is it fair to say that this is confirmation that the majority of the city agrees with the direction the city is taking?

What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

can you please link all candidates platform? You've been proven a pos liar before, so now I want facts... Hell, you claimed to be a soccer coach, and obviously that is not true. You're a crazy

What exact information do you need? Did you not see the mayoral debates?

What evidence do you have that I lied or that I am not a soccer coach?

In fact, our season just recently ended. Our team went 3-2.

(04-24-2013 11:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:12 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 04:44 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Or...

Steve Ortega already has the votes of the people who are fine with the demolition of City Hall.

Therefore, if an opposing candidate wants a legit chance of winning the election, he almost has to sound off against the demolition of City Hall to get the vote of people who were against it.

Simple math. Simple politics.

That is a good point. So then if Steve Ortega wins, is it fair to say that this is confirmation that the majority of the city agrees with the direction the city is taking?

What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

can you please link all candidates platform? You've been proven a pos liar before, so now I want facts... Hell, you claimed to be a soccer coach, and obviously that is not true. You're a crazy

What exact information do you need? Did you not see the mayoral debates?

What evidence do you have that I lied or that I am not a soccer coach?

In fact, our season just recently ended. Our team went 3-2.

First, you can start by listing the candidates that were against the city hall demolition.

Second, you tried to pass yourself off as a UIL coach by implying you coached "many UIL" sports. Although, I applaud your effort, and acknowledge your contribution to the city's youth, it is still in bad taste what you were attempting to imply.

(04-25-2013 12:00 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 11:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:12 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-23-2013 04:44 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Or...

Steve Ortega already has the votes of the people who are fine with the demolition of City Hall.

Therefore, if an opposing candidate wants a legit chance of winning the election, he almost has to sound off against the demolition of City Hall to get the vote of people who were against it.

Simple math. Simple politics.

That is a good point. So then if Steve Ortega wins, is it fair to say that this is confirmation that the majority of the city agrees with the direction the city is taking?

What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

can you please link all candidates platform? You've been proven a pos liar before, so now I want facts... Hell, you claimed to be a soccer coach, and obviously that is not true. You're a crazy

What exact information do you need? Did you not see the mayoral debates?

What evidence do you have that I lied or that I am not a soccer coach?

In fact, our season just recently ended. Our team went 3-2.

First, you can start by listing the candidates that were against the city hall demolition.

Second, you tried to pass yourself off as a UIL coach by implying you coached "many UIL" sports. Although, I applaud your effort, and acknowledge your contribution to the city's youth, it is still in bad taste what you were attempting to imply.

All mayoral candidates besides Ortega have come out against the demolition of City Hall.

I'm sorry if you didn't understand what I meant when I said I was a coach.

(04-25-2013 01:57 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-25-2013 12:00 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 11:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 08:12 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  That is a good point. So then if Steve Ortega wins, is it fair to say that this is confirmation that the majority of the city agrees with the direction the city is taking?

What if he loses? Can we then make the assumption that people were generally not in favor of the demolition?

can you please link all candidates platform? You've been proven a pos liar before, so now I want facts... Hell, you claimed to be a soccer coach, and obviously that is not true. You're a crazy

What exact information do you need? Did you not see the mayoral debates?

What evidence do you have that I lied or that I am not a soccer coach?

In fact, our season just recently ended. Our team went 3-2.

First, you can start by listing the candidates that were against the city hall demolition.

Second, you tried to pass yourself off as a UIL coach by implying you coached "many UIL" sports. Although, I applaud your effort, and acknowledge your contribution to the city's youth, it is still in bad taste what you were attempting to imply.

All mayoral candidates besides Ortega have come out against the demolition of City Hall.

I'm sorry if you didn't understand what I meant when I said I was a coach.

which ones? or are we suppose to believe your polls that El Paso didn't want a team? You blab, blab, blab and blab, but never come out with anything, move on crazy

As far as sports go, I'm sure you didn't play, that is why you try to pass yourself off as a coach, hence the "I wouldn't have guessed" comment I made in the other thread.

I'm sorry if you don't know who is running for Mayor in El Paso. Just this morning I heard a campaign commercial talking speficially about how city hall was demolished without the public's consent.

As for playing sports............

Of course I plays sports. What kid didn't play sports?

(04-26-2013 01:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sorry if you don't know who is running for Mayor in El Paso. Just this morning I heard a campaign commercial talking speficially about how city hall was demolished without the public's consent.

As for playing sports............

Of course I plays sports. What kid didn't play sports?

name them. If you can't, you might as well link the polls you lost in, again.

You didn't play sports, quit acting like you did, ayso doesn't count, move along you crazy.

Jorge Artalejo, substitute teacher
Robert Cormell, business owner
Gus Haddad, mortgage broker
Oscar Leeser, business owner
Hector Lopez, radio show host and admissions coordinator
Dino Martinez, retired from the Department of Defense
Jaime Perez, former chief of staff to county judge Anthony Cobosand tutor

It seems leeser and perez are the only ones still openly opposed to city hall going down, but that they will support the stadium. The others seem to have changed their tune and are on board. Gee, what a difference one debate made, I wonder why? Public opinion maybe?

And what do you know, perez who is the only one still opposed to the stadium being downtown, wants the new arena to be built in his neck of the woods. Lets not get into who he associated himself with.

Elections and politics are a dirty game. Leeser, who said he thought demolishing city hall and building a stadium was a waste of money, guess who some of his biggest campaign donors are? Yup, that's right, major (Rubin) property owners downtown

(04-29-2013 10:15 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  It seems leeser and perez are the only ones still openly opposed to city hall going down, but that they will support the stadium. The others seem to have changed their tune and are on board. Gee, what a difference one debate made, I wonder why? Public opinion maybe?

And what do you know, perez who is the only one still opposed to the stadium being downtown, wants the new arena to be built in his neck of the woods. Lets not get into who he associated himself with.

Elections and politics are a dirty game. Leeser, who said he thought demolishing city hall and building a stadium was a waste of money, guess who some of his biggest campaign donors are? Yup, that's right, major (Rubin) property owners downtown

I haven't seen any new debates since the one on 7 extra where all the candidates were against the domolition of city hall.

Obviously, we must all support the new stadium. Whether we thought it was put in the right location or not, we should all go to some games. I know I will.

Gus Haddad was on KLAQ this morning and made some interesting comments about what he calls "Smart Growth". Apparently, there is this new thing in El Paso where developers want to create neighborhoods that are self sufficient in that you don't to leave your neighborhood to get most of the entertainment most people desire.

He said that the market should decide what goes where. A far cry from what is currently happening with government deciding where everything should go.

The candidates have come full circle, from what I've read and heard, Perez is the only candidate who doesn't want the stadium downtown.

There are 3 smart growth communities already in place. Of course, this being El Paso and some people being so closed minded and jealous, 2 of the communities have already met opposition. One being built across from an elementary school and the other is using farmland. The third community is now being criticized because of the types of buildings it will use to hold it's commercial area, the buildings were chosen so that the community could still meet the smart code.

There is a small fraction of El Pasoans who will complain about progress (in their own minds, they are the majority), no matter how or where progress comes from, I'm surprised Haddad didn't talk about that when he gave his opinion on "market should decide what goes where"