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It would be interesting to know how many schools in Texas play FBS football.
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(04-11-2013 06:34 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 07:41 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 06:05 AM)UTArlingtonMaverick Wrote:  The is headed to being signed into law.

Not so long ago Texas had: Southwest Texas State, North Texas State, East Texas State, and West Texas State. Old Southwest Texas State clearly came-out ahead and was more politically astute with the name changes (to Texas State).

Congrats, Texas State University!

yes a few years ago several schools could have nabbed the texas state name. good pick up for you guys.

Actually no one but TXST could have the name. I met the man who works for TXST in our business school and he went to the texas legislature either in the late 60s or early 70s and reserved the rights to the name. It was a race to get the name reserved because rumor was that UNT was going to try and get the name. The reason they waited so long is because it is costly, you need the right student, alumni and faculty support. We lost some support from older alum when the change happened, but who cares. The school, students, alumni, and faculty are way better off since then.

either way getting that name was a home run and getting Dr. Trauth was as well...the name change was probably her first major initiative and it was not without the naysayers and they had shot it down once before, but she told them get on board or go away because it is going to happen

the next 10 years from there was pretty much nothing but success after success.....20 million for the McCoy College, the Engineering programs and 7 million for them and pretty much placed right into an area of central Texas need and specialization, development of PhD programs, emerging research status, growth of research funding, graduation rates, freshman class metrics have all been major successes under her watch and now moving to D1-A and getting some decent private funding for that

I am sure there have been "issues" for someone somewhere because there always are, but probably the one single thing I could nitpick if I was FORCED at gun point to say she might have messed up slightly was having the fund raising campaign foe the $120 million (that was also a HUGE success and is still going) before meeting emerging research status because that cash was raised without matching TRIP dollars....but really that is PURE HINDSIGHT because no one say that money coming available and realistically some of the money like sac n pac money came because of the passing of someone and you take the cash when you gets it PERIOD

really I think it would be possible to wait a year or two at the most and start another campaign right back up for 200 million over 8 years or maybe 250 million over 8

the reality is so much has been done, but there is still so much more to go...I would say add 2 engineering programs like civil and environmental (as one together) and mechanical, and also engineering physics (which is already in the physics department plan).....elevate one or two more majors to the same statue as geography and aquatics (world class), increase the endowment to 200-250 million+.....lower student to faculty ration by 2(in addition to further lowering it by doing the things needed to increase per FTE state formula funding)...library to NRL status, college of business ranked in the major publications.....increase number of endowed chairs from 16 to 50+

I think 200 to 250 million raised the right way and to the right places could make that happen pretty easily
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(04-11-2013 07:12 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  It would be interesting to know how many schools in Texas play FBS football.

Easy answer

TXST
UTSA
UT
TAMU
BAYLOR
UTEP
TXTECH
UH
RICE
UNT
SMU
TCU
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(04-11-2013 07:12 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  It would be interesting to know how many schools in Texas play FBS football.

Stephen F. Austin, Lamar, PVAMU, Sam Houston, Texas Southern

transitioning Abilene Christan, Incarnate Word and starting one Houston Baptist

all of those including existing programs would be a DISASTER in D1-A and have no business even considering moving up period and yes that means you Lamar and SHSU especially......not a chance in hell you would ever compete for anything but the best of the very worst period

opps my bad I answered D1-AA not D1-A

there are 12 D1-A teams as answered above
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(04-11-2013 07:45 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 07:12 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  It would be interesting to know how many schools in Texas play FBS football.

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You have to wonder if an all Texas conference will come to be in the future.
Excluding the Big 12 schools maybe 8 Texas schools and pick four good candidates to round it out.
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(04-11-2013 07:51 PM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 07:45 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 07:12 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  It would be interesting to know how many schools in Texas play FBS football.

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You have to wonder if an all Texas conference will come to be in the future.
Excluding the Big 12 schools maybe 8 Texas schools and pick four good candidates to round it out.

Used to one called the SWT. No, it would never happen. TAMU isn't leaving the SEC now and UT wants no part of TXST being in the same conference. (or their satellites)
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Thanks. We will soon have 7 in the lil' ole' basketball-playing state of NC. Texas is 5X the land area of NC and football-rich. I was just wondering how many more they had.

UNC
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Congratulations Texas State! Get that bill through the House quickly as May 27 is the last day of the session. The sooner it comes up the more likely it is to get passed. After getting it through the Senate it would be terrible to run out of time in the House and have to start over in 2015!
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Well I'm jealous.
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(04-11-2013 08:51 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  Thanks. We will soon have 7 in the lil' ole' basketball-playing state of NC. Texas is 5X the land area of NC and football-rich. I was just wondering how many more they had.

UNC
State
Wake
Duke
ECU
App
Charlotte

Texas D1 basketball schools

Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Houston (nBE)
Rice (CUSA)
SMU (nBE)
North Texas (CUSA)
Texas State (Sun Belt)
Sam Houston State (Southland)
SF Austin (Southland)
UTEP (CUSA)
UTSA (CUSA)
Lamar (Southland)
TCU (Big12)
UT-Arlington (Sun Belt)
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (Southland)
Texas Southern (SWAC)
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)
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Awesome. I wanted this from day one when I saw TSU-SM. Now it'll be great to call you guys the "REAL" Texas State University - TSU! (Boo TN State Tiggers)
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(04-13-2013 11:59 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Awesome. I wanted this from day one when I saw TSU-SM. Now it'll be great to call you guys the "REAL" Texas State University - TSU! (Boo TN State Tiggers)

I think they go by TxSt because Texas Southern is more commonly referred to as TSU.
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Congratulations Texas State!

My wife is from Plano, Tx (parents now live in Allen, Tx) so we are especially excited for a Texas Sun Belt rivalry! Hopefully it'll be played during the week of Thanksgiving!



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(04-13-2013 12:05 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 11:59 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  Awesome. I wanted this from day one when I saw TSU-SM. Now it'll be great to call you guys the "REAL" Texas State University - TSU! (Boo TN State Tiggers)

I think they go by TxSt because Texas Southern is more commonly referred to as TSU.

Texas Southern has the "rights" to TSU. Not quite officially but I believe they "asked" we not use it.
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(04-13-2013 11:41 AM)MG61 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:51 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  Thanks. We will soon have 7 in the lil' ole' basketball-playing state of NC. Texas is 5X the land area of NC and football-rich. I was just wondering how many more they had.

UNC
State
Wake
Duke
ECU
App
Charlotte

Texas D1 basketball schools

Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Houston (nBE)
Rice (CUSA)
SMU (nBE)
North Texas (CUSA)
Texas State (Sun Belt)
Sam Houston State (Southland)
SF Austin (Southland)
UTEP (CUSA)
UTSA (CUSA)
Lamar (Southland)
TCU (Big12)
UT-Arlington (Sun Belt)
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (Southland)
Texas Southern (SWAC)
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)

And not one school from Texas made the NCAA tourney this year!
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(04-13-2013 04:29 PM)coachacola Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 11:41 AM)MG61 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:51 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  Thanks. We will soon have 7 in the lil' ole' basketball-playing state of NC. Texas is 5X the land area of NC and football-rich. I was just wondering how many more they had.

UNC
State
Wake
Duke
ECU
App
Charlotte

Texas D1 basketball schools

Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Houston (nBE)
Rice (CUSA)
SMU (nBE)
North Texas (CUSA)
Texas State (Sun Belt)
Sam Houston State (Southland)
SF Austin (Southland) 28-6, crime they got left out
UTEP (CUSA)
UTSA (CUSA)
Lamar (Southland)
TCU (Big12)
UT-Arlington (Sun Belt)
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (Southland)
Texas Southern (SWAC)
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)

And not one school from Texas made the NCAA tourney this year!

Yes, I realize SFA lost the CCG but they had a good enough record to get an at large. And, yes, I know the SLC rarely gets that consideration.
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(04-13-2013 11:41 AM)MG61 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:51 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  Thanks. We will soon have 7 in the lil' ole' basketball-playing state of NC. Texas is 5X the land area of NC and football-rich. I was just wondering how many more they had.

UNC
State
Wake
Duke
ECU
App
Charlotte

Texas D1 basketball schools

Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Houston (nBE)
Rice (CUSA)
SMU (nBE)
North Texas (CUSA)
Texas State (Sun Belt)
Sam Houston State (Southland)
SF Austin (Southland)
UTEP (CUSA)
UTSA (CUSA)
Lamar (Southland)
TCU (Big12)
UT-Arlington (Sun Belt)
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (Southland)
Texas Southern (SWAC)
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)

And next year you can add Abilene Christian, Houston Baptist and Incarnate Word (all to the Southland) to that list.
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(04-11-2013 12:17 PM)FAUAEPi Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 11:48 AM)JoeJag Wrote:  University of Texas System:
1. at Arlington
2. at Austin
3. at Brownsville/Texas Southmost College
4. at Dallas
5. at El Paso
6. at San Antonio
7. at Tyler
8. at Permian Basin - Midland/Odessa
9. at Pan American - Edinburg
10. at Galveston - Medical College

Which obviously doesn't include the Texas A&M system, Texas St system, and Texas Tech System.

Congrats Bobcats! When FAU plays UTSA (ew) in a couple years, I plan on staying in beautiful San Marcos. I hope it's not a day game so your night life doesn't kill me Friday night.

You also have the North Texas system, which includes UNT, UNT-Dallas and UNT-Health Center in Ft Worth.
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(04-13-2013 04:29 PM)coachacola Wrote:  
(04-13-2013 11:41 AM)MG61 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:51 PM)AppAttack Wrote:  Thanks. We will soon have 7 in the lil' ole' basketball-playing state of NC. Texas is 5X the land area of NC and football-rich. I was just wondering how many more they had.

UNC
State
Wake
Duke
ECU
App
Charlotte

Texas D1 basketball schools

Texas (Big 12)
Texas A&M (Big 12)
Texas Tech (Big 12)
Baylor (Big 12)
Houston (nBE)
Rice (CUSA)
SMU (nBE)
North Texas (CUSA)
Texas State (Sun Belt)
Sam Houston State (Southland)
SF Austin (Southland)
UTEP (CUSA)
UTSA (CUSA)
Lamar (Southland)
TCU (Big12)
UT-Arlington (Sun Belt)
Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (Southland)
Texas Southern (SWAC)
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)

And not one school from Texas made the NCAA tourney this year!

looks like you left off ut panam
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(04-11-2013 07:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 06:34 PM)TXST Bobcat2010 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 07:41 AM)runamuck Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 06:05 AM)UTArlingtonMaverick Wrote:  The is headed to being signed into law.

Not so long ago Texas had: Southwest Texas State, North Texas State, East Texas State, and West Texas State. Old Southwest Texas State clearly came-out ahead and was more politically astute with the name changes (to Texas State).

Congrats, Texas State University!

yes a few years ago several schools could have nabbed the texas state name. good pick up for you guys.

Actually no one but TXST could have the name. I met the man who works for TXST in our business school and he went to the texas legislature either in the late 60s or early 70s and reserved the rights to the name. It was a race to get the name reserved because rumor was that UNT was going to try and get the name. The reason they waited so long is because it is costly, you need the right student, alumni and faculty support. We lost some support from older alum when the change happened, but who cares. The school, students, alumni, and faculty are way better off since then.

either way getting that name was a home run and getting Dr. Trauth was as well...the name change was probably her first major initiative and it was not without the naysayers and they had shot it down once before, but she told them get on board or go away because it is going to happen

the next 10 years from there was pretty much nothing but success after success.....20 million for the McCoy College, the Engineering programs and 7 million for them and pretty much placed right into an area of central Texas need and specialization, development of PhD programs, emerging research status, growth of research funding, graduation rates, freshman class metrics have all been major successes under her watch and now moving to D1-A and getting some decent private funding for that

I am sure there have been "issues" for someone somewhere because there always are, but probably the one single thing I could nitpick if I was FORCED at gun point to say she might have messed up slightly was having the fund raising campaign foe the $120 million (that was also a HUGE success and is still going) before meeting emerging research status because that cash was raised without matching TRIP dollars....but really that is PURE HINDSIGHT because no one say that money coming available and realistically some of the money like sac n pac money came because of the passing of someone and you take the cash when you gets it PERIOD

really I think it would be possible to wait a year or two at the most and start another campaign right back up for 200 million over 8 years or maybe 250 million over 8

the reality is so much has been done, but there is still so much more to go...I would say add 2 engineering programs like civil and environmental (as one together) and mechanical, and also engineering physics (which is already in the physics department plan).....elevate one or two more majors to the same statue as geography and aquatics (world class), increase the endowment to 200-250 million+.....lower student to faculty ration by 2(in addition to further lowering it by doing the things needed to increase per FTE state formula funding)...library to NRL status, college of business ranked in the major publications.....increase number of endowed chairs from 16 to 50+

I think 200 to 250 million raised the right way and to the right places could make that happen pretty easily

wrong- the texas state name was up for grabs several times. unt is one of the times. I remember people affiliated with school trying to decide if they would change to it..probably was sometime in the 70's as you say.
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