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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
Read where garbage collectors can make $80-$100K/year in NYC with overtime.
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(04-08-2013 09:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Read where garbage collectors can make $80-$100K/year in NYC with overtime.

Garbage collectors make good money in most areas..
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
Cause they are often unionized state or county employees. Not individual employees of a private franchise owner trying to make ends meet.
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So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
I like it- my next restaurant- "The Burger Exchange"
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.
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(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
I'm not the biggest fan of that idea. Seriously, $15/hour to flip flippin' burgers? I could earn less doing a much more challenging and respectable job.
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(04-08-2013 09:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Read where garbage collectors can make $80-$100K/year in NYC with overtime.

Remember though that OT means just that - a lot of longer hours, weekends and holidays. They ain't just working 9-5, M-F.

(Please don't talk about how salaried people work long hours. I know they do. It doesn't take away from the fact that the garbage men and women are working long, ****** hours to make 100k a year.)

OT - They recently had flamebait articles here in the Cities about a Metro Transit bus driver making some huge amount of money per year - I think it was around $100k. Of course, tax payers flew out of the woodwork demanding to know why a lowly bus driver made that much money, how dare they pay a bus driver that much money, what a waste he should only make $30,000 per year etc.

Then, as the story was flushed out, it seems that this employee was at the top of his salary grade because he had been a driver since 1980, and he was one of the only bus drivers to work weekends, nights and holidays, and he had an exemplary driving record to which he collected annual bonus. He didn't call in sick, and indeed he was (because of his seniority) the first person offered extra shifts when someone was out. And he took them, without fail. He took every advantage he could of his work ethic, his contract and his employer to make a good living - but he was working 70 hours a week, weekend, holidays and nights included.

Sounds to me like exactly the type of employee we need in a City - responsible, hard working and safe. As a tax payer, that is worth a high salary.

Perhaps, indeed certainly this is not the case with all Public employees. But rarely is the salary amount in itself a reason to get excised.
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
03-lmfao You are an idiot. THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own. Please note, I am not saying that McDonalds or any other fas food place should be owned by the government.
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
(04-09-2013 10:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
03-lmfao THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own.

You're kidding right? You're saying that the almighty government in their once yearly half-assed inspection is what makes private restaurants operate cleanly. Sure.

How about if people get sick at a restaurant, it gets picked up by the local news and their customers quit eating at said establishment. Way more effective than the "government inspector" that does a once a year.
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(04-09-2013 10:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
:lmfao: You are an idiot. THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own. Please note, I am not saying that McDonalds or any other fas food place should be owned by the government.

Actually, that's exactly what you're saying.

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(04-09-2013 11:04 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(04-09-2013 10:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
03-lmfao THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own.

You're kidding right? You're saying that the almighty government in their once yearly half-assed inspection is what makes private restaurants operate cleanly. Sure.

How about if people get sick at a restaurant, it gets picked up by the local news and their customers quit eating at said establishment. Way more effective than the "government inspector" that does a once a year.

Robert just can't grasp the concept of someone with a profit motive not wanting to make their customers sick.
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RE: 15$ an hour to flip burgers?
That was one of the dumbest statements I've seen yet. The old axiom holds true- if you have a good experience/meal at a place you will tell 2 people. If you have a bad experience, you'll likely tell ten.

Half of those "health" inspectors are dumb as a box of rocks, and the other half on the take. So yes, place your trust in the your beloved omniscient government.
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(04-09-2013 10:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
03-lmfao You are an idiot. THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own. Please note, I am not saying that McDonalds or any other fas food place should be owned by the government.

So if the government regulates and inspects restaurants to protect you, shouldn't they also inspect and regulate the kitchen in your home?
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(04-09-2013 11:04 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(04-09-2013 10:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
03-lmfao THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own.

You're kidding right? You're saying that the almighty government in their once yearly half-assed inspection is what makes private restaurants operate cleanly. Sure.

How about if people get sick at a restaurant, it gets picked up by the local news and their customers quit eating at said establishment. Way more effective than the "government inspector" that does a once a year.
Nope not kidding at all.
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(04-09-2013 11:43 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(04-09-2013 10:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 02:29 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 12:22 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 11:28 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  So the cure is to nationalize burger joints.

LOL...imagine waiting in line for a burger as long as you do to renew your drivers license.

Would you like salmonella or e-coli with that burger.
03-lmfao You are an idiot. THe cases of both would be a hell of a lot worse if we let the private sector deal with it on their own. Please note, I am not saying that McDonalds or any other fas food place should be owned by the government.

So if the government regulates and inspects restaurants to protect you, shouldn't they also inspect and regulate the kitchen in your home?
If you have a public restaurant in your home. But I was thinking before you get to the restaurant level.
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(04-09-2013 10:36 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(04-08-2013 09:49 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Read where garbage collectors can make $80-$100K/year in NYC with overtime.

Remember though that OT means just that - a lot of longer hours, weekends and holidays. They ain't just working 9-5, M-F.

(Please don't talk about how salaried people work long hours. I know they do. It doesn't take away from the fact that the garbage men and women are working long, ****** hours to make 100k a year.)

OT - They recently had flamebait articles here in the Cities about a Metro Transit bus driver making some huge amount of money per year - I think it was around $100k. Of course, tax payers flew out of the woodwork demanding to know why a lowly bus driver made that much money, how dare they pay a bus driver that much money, what a waste he should only make $30,000 per year etc.

Then, as the story was flushed out, it seems that this employee was at the top of his salary grade because he had been a driver since 1980, and he was one of the only bus drivers to work weekends, nights and holidays, and he had an exemplary driving record to which he collected annual bonus. He didn't call in sick, and indeed he was (because of his seniority) the first person offered extra shifts when someone was out. And he took them, without fail. He took every advantage he could of his work ethic, his contract and his employer to make a good living - but he was working 70 hours a week, weekend, holidays and nights included.

Sounds to me like exactly the type of employee we need in a City - responsible, hard working and safe. As a tax payer, that is worth a high salary.

Perhaps, indeed certainly this is not the case with all Public employees. But rarely is the salary amount in itself a reason to get excised.


Very true. The guy played by some pretty reasonable rules. Personally, because I somewhat do this... it seems that they don't have enough drivers if they have people consistently working 30 hours a week at time and a half. It would likely be cheaper (and arguably safer) to pay someone else for 40 hours to only work 30. I'm sure THIS guy wouldn't be happy, but the unemployed guy they hire probably would be.

(04-09-2013 11:39 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  The old axiom holds true- if you have a good experience/meal at a place you will tell 2 people. If you have a bad experience, you'll likely tell ten.

Half of those "health" inspectors are dumb as a box of rocks, and the other half on the take. So yes, place your trust in the your beloved omniscient government.

The bigger issue with health inspectors is 1 inspector for every 200 restaurants in most locations... add to that the frequency of turnover in the industry and most of these places don't get seen for a year or more. Given what it would really take to keep people from being sick (spend time at a hospital and watch how people wash hands and don't touch things) much less adding "spoiling" food to the equation and it is amazing that we survive at all.
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