http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-vigilantes...30439.html

No saying that they're any less corrupt, but the principle is there.

US citizens need to realize that they too need to address corruption head on.

(03-28-2013 06:47 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-vigilantes...30439.html

No saying that they're any less corrupt, but the principle is there.

US citizens need to realize that they too need to address corruption head on.

I know all our legislators aren't legit, but I'd imagine the level of corruption in Mexico is off the charts.

It's hard to stand up to the corrupt police and cartels when they have guns and you're not supposed to. I give these Mexicans credit.

They should have done this in Chicago a century ago...

(03-28-2013 02:31 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  They should have done this in Chicago a century ago...

Not sure having random people shooting at folks is the answer either. The policie were probably corrupt, but why shoot at tourist heading to the beach?

(03-28-2013 02:33 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:31 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  They should have done this in Chicago a century ago...

Not sure having random people shooting at folks is the answer either. The policie were probably corrupt, but why shoot at tourist heading to the beach?

They have a beach in Chicago?

We should all root for Mexico to fix their violence and corruption. I could just imagine what great things could happen if Mexico was as stable as Canada.

(03-28-2013 03:21 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:33 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:31 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  They should have done this in Chicago a century ago...

Not sure having random people shooting at folks is the answer either. The policie were probably corrupt, but why shoot at tourist heading to the beach?

They have a beach in Chicago?

What do they call all that sand around Lake Meeeeeeeeechigan in Chicaaaaaaaaago?

(03-28-2013 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:21 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:33 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:31 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  They should have done this in Chicago a century ago...

Not sure having random people shooting at folks is the answer either. The policie were probably corrupt, but why shoot at tourist heading to the beach?

They have a beach in Chicago?

What do they call all that sand around Lake Meeeeeeeeechigan in Chicaaaaaaaaago?

They call it dirt...

(03-28-2013 03:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:21 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:33 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:31 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  They should have done this in Chicago a century ago...

Not sure having random people shooting at folks is the answer either. The policie were probably corrupt, but why shoot at tourist heading to the beach?

They have a beach in Chicago?

What do they call all that sand around Lake Meeeeeeeeechigan in Chicaaaaaaaaago?

They call it dirt...

No, they call it a beach, at least that's what the dude called it last time I was in Chicago.

Anyway, the beach I referred to in the first response is thousands of miles away in Acapulco, Mexico.

So where are these Mexicans getting all their weapons from if guns are illegal in Mexico, Santa?

(03-28-2013 03:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  So where are these Mexicans getting all their weapons from if guns are illegal in Mexico, Santa?

Evidently Eric Holder.

(03-28-2013 03:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:21 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 02:33 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Not sure having random people shooting at folks is the answer either. The policie were probably corrupt, but why shoot at tourist heading to the beach?

They have a beach in Chicago?

What do they call all that sand around Lake Meeeeeeeeechigan in Chicaaaaaaaaago?

They call it dirt...

No, they call it a beach, at least that's what the dude called it last time I was in Chicago.

Anyway, the beach I referred to in the first response is thousands of miles away in Acapulco, Mexico.

But I never talked about what happened in Mexico, except to say it needed to happen in Chicago a century ago...

However, in deference to you, I will comment on what happened in Mexico...

The motorist in question was stupid in not complying with a request to stop by heavily armed vigilantes. The fact that they were armed should have given him pause. He was asking for trouble by not doing what they wanted. Complying with their request might result in him being shot, but not complying with their request definitely results in being shot. If I were him, I'd take the possibility with the least chance of being shot, and stopping would have been the right choice...

Given the circumstances, how are the vigilantes to know whether or not he is part of what they were fighting, since he refused to comply with their request? Now it could be that the vigilantes were a bit overzealous, and are just another part of the same problem. But given the history of politics in Mexico, I think they were just people who were as scared as the guy driving the car. Those who panic always make bad choices. It's best to remain calm in pressure situations. That gives you the best odds for a favorable outcome...

(03-28-2013 04:39 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:21 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  They have a beach in Chicago?

What do they call all that sand around Lake Meeeeeeeeechigan in Chicaaaaaaaaago?

They call it dirt...

No, they call it a beach, at least that's what the dude called it last time I was in Chicago.

Anyway, the beach I referred to in the first response is thousands of miles away in Acapulco, Mexico.

But I never talked about what happened in Mexico, except to say it needed to happen in Chicago a century ago...

However, in deference to you, I will comment on what happened in Mexico...

The motorist in question was stupid in not complying with a request to stop by heavily armed vigilantes. The fact that they were armed should have given him pause. He was asking for trouble by not doing what they wanted. Complying with their request might result in him being shot, but not complying with their request definitely results in being shot. If I were him, I'd take the possibility with the least chance of being shot, and stopping would have been the right choice...

Given the circumstances, how are the vigilantes to know whether or not he is part of what they were fighting, since he refused to comply with their request? Now it could be that the vigilantes were a bit overzealous, and are just another part of the same problem. But given the history of politics in Mexico, I think they were just people who were as scared as the guy driving the car. Those who panic always make bad choices. It's best to remain calm in pressure situations. That gives you the best odds for a favorable outcome...

If you remain calm while everyone else around you is panicking, you might not have assessed the situation correctly.

(03-28-2013 05:16 PM)NIUAlum90 Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 04:39 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:57 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:50 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-28-2013 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  What do they call all that sand around Lake Meeeeeeeeechigan in Chicaaaaaaaaago?

They call it dirt...

No, they call it a beach, at least that's what the dude called it last time I was in Chicago.

Anyway, the beach I referred to in the first response is thousands of miles away in Acapulco, Mexico.

But I never talked about what happened in Mexico, except to say it needed to happen in Chicago a century ago...

However, in deference to you, I will comment on what happened in Mexico...

The motorist in question was stupid in not complying with a request to stop by heavily armed vigilantes. The fact that they were armed should have given him pause. He was asking for trouble by not doing what they wanted. Complying with their request might result in him being shot, but not complying with their request definitely results in being shot. If I were him, I'd take the possibility with the least chance of being shot, and stopping would have been the right choice...

Given the circumstances, how are the vigilantes to know whether or not he is part of what they were fighting, since he refused to comply with their request? Now it could be that the vigilantes were a bit overzealous, and are just another part of the same problem. But given the history of politics in Mexico, I think they were just people who were as scared as the guy driving the car. Those who panic always make bad choices. It's best to remain calm in pressure situations. That gives you the best odds for a favorable outcome...

If you remain calm while everyone else around you is panicking, you might not have assessed the situation correctly.

My experiences in Vietnam are telling me differently. The guys who panicked are mostly dead. The guys who didn't mostly lived...