(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

From my view (and I know this is SUPREMELY hypocritical as we are a fresh move up from FCS), it is the perception. It is the unknown of how you will fare once here. Keep in mind, there's no guarantee that you will equal your success in FBS that you achieved in FCS.

It is that we are losing what is now an established FBS team for a move up. I liken JMU similarly to App State: I'd rather have FBS (and not Idaho or NMSU, unless NMSU is all sports) than them, but if we gotta take FCS, you guys would be on top of my list.

But it's a list of "dammit, I can't believe we have to do this" not a list of "let's cherry pick some teams to increase our profile."

Keep in mind, it's nothing against JMU as an institution or an insult to what you've accomplished. It's just the reality of the situation.

(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:10 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  We've had two good days of everybody being excited about the entry of App State and Georgia Southern. Most everybody said, "this is exactly what we needed. This will push the Sun Belt further," but now everybody is back to hating us. I'm sorry that WKU is likely moving, but bringing in JMU is not a bad thing, and that should not make everybody suddenly hate being in the Sun Belt. We're going to be fine. No, we're going to be great.

I think you're VASTLY overstating the consensus of the board.

VERY few (aside from App State and GSU fans) were saying "this will push us."

Most everyone was saying "well, it's not a bad choice. At least they're not Liberty, Sam Houston, or Lamar! They have a good fan base and won't drag us down too much."

Don't mistake acceptance for excitement.

And I think most on the board are already tired of hearing App State and Georgia Southern fans how great JMU will be. It's just a simple fact: JMU will certainly not in the short term offset a WKU loss. Not in football, not in basketball. There's no guarantee that JMU will in the long-term offset that loss either. It's not a knock on JMU, it's just a simple fact. You're trading a known quantity for an unknown. And that sucks.

I figure most on here have resigned themselves to the fact that WKU is gone, and most likely (ok, 99.99% sure) we will be taking an FCS team. Doesn't mean it's a happy time.

What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

So seed in one season by the committee who did not doing any reseach makes you guys equal to WKU in basketball? What did you do with your seed against IU? How many NCAA tournament wins do you have last 10 years? Comparing JMU basketball to WKU basketball even in our down years is a joke...

(03-27-2013 02:40 PM)GaSouthern Wrote:  WKU > Georgia Southern
FAU < App St
FIU < JMU
UNT = Texas St

You're talking projections.

From a perception standpoint, you just can't argue that FAU < Georgia Southern, FIU < JMU, or even UNT = Texas State.

Those were existing FBS schools. All three you mentioned are recent (or current) FCS schools.

Now, in the future? Your statement could very well be true. But that's no guarantee. But then, I'd say UNT < Texas State (but I am a homer, so keep that in mind).

(03-27-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:10 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  We've had two good days of everybody being excited about the entry of App State and Georgia Southern. Most everybody said, "this is exactly what we needed. This will push the Sun Belt further," but now everybody is back to hating us. I'm sorry that WKU is likely moving, but bringing in JMU is not a bad thing, and that should not make everybody suddenly hate being in the Sun Belt. We're going to be fine. No, we're going to be great.

I think you're VASTLY overstating the consensus of the board.

VERY few (aside from App State and GSU fans) were saying "this will push us."

Most everyone was saying "well, it's not a bad choice. At least they're not Liberty, Sam Houston, or Lamar! They have a good fan base and won't drag us down too much."

Don't mistake acceptance for excitement.

And I think most on the board are already tired of hearing App State and Georgia Southern fans how great JMU will be. It's just a simple fact: JMU will certainly not in the short term offset a WKU loss. Not in football, not in basketball. There's no guarantee that JMU will in the long-term offset that loss either. It's not a knock on JMU, it's just a simple fact. You're trading a known quantity for an unknown. And that sucks.

I figure most on here have resigned themselves to the fact that WKU is gone, and most likely (ok, 99.99% sure) we will be taking an FCS team. Doesn't mean it's a happy time.

What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

So seed in one season by the committee who did not doing any reseach makes you guys equal to WKU in basketball? What did you do with your seed against IU? How many NCAA tournament wins do you have last 10 years? Comparing JMU basketball to WKU basketball even in our down years is a joke...

If you'll notice, I admitted our basketball team was lacking, but at least this year we weren't too far apart - that's all I was saying. I'll readily admit from a historical standpoint that WKU basketball is head and shoulders above us, but they're also above the rest of the Sun Belt historically. If we want to joke we can talk about WKU football attendance...

(03-27-2013 02:49 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:10 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  We've had two good days of everybody being excited about the entry of App State and Georgia Southern. Most everybody said, "this is exactly what we needed. This will push the Sun Belt further," but now everybody is back to hating us. I'm sorry that WKU is likely moving, but bringing in JMU is not a bad thing, and that should not make everybody suddenly hate being in the Sun Belt. We're going to be fine. No, we're going to be great.

I think you're VASTLY overstating the consensus of the board.

VERY few (aside from App State and GSU fans) were saying "this will push us."

Most everyone was saying "well, it's not a bad choice. At least they're not Liberty, Sam Houston, or Lamar! They have a good fan base and won't drag us down too much."

Don't mistake acceptance for excitement.

And I think most on the board are already tired of hearing App State and Georgia Southern fans how great JMU will be. It's just a simple fact: JMU will certainly not in the short term offset a WKU loss. Not in football, not in basketball. There's no guarantee that JMU will in the long-term offset that loss either. It's not a knock on JMU, it's just a simple fact. You're trading a known quantity for an unknown. And that sucks.

I figure most on here have resigned themselves to the fact that WKU is gone, and most likely (ok, 99.99% sure) we will be taking an FCS team. Doesn't mean it's a happy time.

What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

So seed in one season by the committee who did not doing any reseach makes you guys equal to WKU in basketball? What did you do with your seed against IU? How many NCAA tournament wins do you have last 10 years? Comparing JMU basketball to WKU basketball even in our down years is a joke...

If you'll notice, I admitted our basketball team was lacking, but at least this year we weren't too far apart - that's all I was saying. I'll readily admit from a historical standpoint that WKU basketball is head and shoulders above us, but they're also above the rest of the Sun Belt historically. If we want to joke we can talk about WKU football attendance...

dems fightin' words

(03-27-2013 02:51 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:49 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I think you're VASTLY overstating the consensus of the board.

VERY few (aside from App State and GSU fans) were saying "this will push us."

Most everyone was saying "well, it's not a bad choice. At least they're not Liberty, Sam Houston, or Lamar! They have a good fan base and won't drag us down too much."

Don't mistake acceptance for excitement.

And I think most on the board are already tired of hearing App State and Georgia Southern fans how great JMU will be. It's just a simple fact: JMU will certainly not in the short term offset a WKU loss. Not in football, not in basketball. There's no guarantee that JMU will in the long-term offset that loss either. It's not a knock on JMU, it's just a simple fact. You're trading a known quantity for an unknown. And that sucks.

I figure most on here have resigned themselves to the fact that WKU is gone, and most likely (ok, 99.99% sure) we will be taking an FCS team. Doesn't mean it's a happy time.

What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

So seed in one season by the committee who did not doing any reseach makes you guys equal to WKU in basketball? What did you do with your seed against IU? How many NCAA tournament wins do you have last 10 years? Comparing JMU basketball to WKU basketball even in our down years is a joke...

If you'll notice, I admitted our basketball team was lacking, but at least this year we weren't too far apart - that's all I was saying. I'll readily admit from a historical standpoint that WKU basketball is head and shoulders above us, but they're also above the rest of the Sun Belt historically. If we want to joke we can talk about WKU football attendance...

dems fightin' words

I know...I couldn't resist...all in good fun...plus it's all we got!

Truth be told I think a few of the fans on here are worried that their place in the Sun Belt is diminishing. They may sense a shift of power east or know or refuse to see that App State, GA Southern and James Madison have fanbases similar to or larger than their own. Some have a superiority complex because they've been FBS for a while and feel that automatically entitles then to be better than us "newbies" in some way. All the teams in the Sun Belt are here because they're either in perceived small markets or are recent start-ups. All of us have our backs against the wall and feel that if our school was located in a big city or if we'd only started football earlier we'd be in C-USA, Big East, MAC, etc. It's time we all stick together and start taking some pride in our conference and show how we play ball in the Belt. There's no reason we can't outplay C-USA or any other conference. The bi***ing is getting old already, cry me a river for Pete's sake!

(03-27-2013 02:29 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:18 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:08 PM)asu7 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:05 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:59 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  Matthew Stoss ‏@MatthewStoss 2m
It's unclear what kind of interest (if any) JMU has in the Sun Belt

JMU has played this close to the vest since the jump off....why would they change now?

You think JMU would accept an invite if offered?

I think JMU has been backed into a corner, and the SBC just threw us a rope. I don't think we have a choice, unless CUSA is still in play.

You know it's because App State decided to take an offer to the Sun Belt. You have wanted to be in a conference with us all your life. Admit it, it's OK. All for you grabbing that lifeline, do it. We can have a lot of fun showing the Sun Belt schools that left why they should have stayed.

(03-27-2013 02:51 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:49 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:45 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  I think you're VASTLY overstating the consensus of the board.

VERY few (aside from App State and GSU fans) were saying "this will push us."

Most everyone was saying "well, it's not a bad choice. At least they're not Liberty, Sam Houston, or Lamar! They have a good fan base and won't drag us down too much."

Don't mistake acceptance for excitement.

And I think most on the board are already tired of hearing App State and Georgia Southern fans how great JMU will be. It's just a simple fact: JMU will certainly not in the short term offset a WKU loss. Not in football, not in basketball. There's no guarantee that JMU will in the long-term offset that loss either. It's not a knock on JMU, it's just a simple fact. You're trading a known quantity for an unknown. And that sucks.

I figure most on here have resigned themselves to the fact that WKU is gone, and most likely (ok, 99.99% sure) we will be taking an FCS team. Doesn't mean it's a happy time.

What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

So seed in one season by the committee who did not doing any reseach makes you guys equal to WKU in basketball? What did you do with your seed against IU? How many NCAA tournament wins do you have last 10 years? Comparing JMU basketball to WKU basketball even in our down years is a joke...

If you'll notice, I admitted our basketball team was lacking, but at least this year we weren't too far apart - that's all I was saying. I'll readily admit from a historical standpoint that WKU basketball is head and shoulders above us, but they're also above the rest of the Sun Belt historically. If we want to joke we can talk about WKU football attendance...

dems fightin' words

Football attendence has increased every season in FBS for us and with Petrino at the helm, I am sure this upcoming season will not go against the trend...The two games in NOv. killed our overall average attendence as we had a pathetic 10k against FAU in NOV...Thankfully we have zero Nov. home games this season, smart move on our part...

We were seeded wrong this season as they did not take into account all of our injuries as we were really a 13t or 14th seed compared to your true 16th seed....Plus we gave KU all they wanted while you guys got ran out of the gym from opening tip....

(03-27-2013 02:55 PM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Truth be told I think a few of the fans on here are worried that their place in the Sun Belt is diminishing. They may sense a shift of power east or know or refuse to see that App State, GA Southern and James Madison have fanbases similar to or larger than their own. Some have a superiority complex because they've been FBS for a while and feel that automatically entitles then to be better than us "newbies" in some way. All the teams in the Sun Belt are here because they're either in perceived small markets or are recent start-ups. All of us have our backs against the wall and feel that if our school was located in a big city or if we'd only started football earlier we'd be in C-USA, Big East, MAC, etc. It's time we all stick together and start taking some pride in our conference and show how we play ball in the Belt. There's no reason we can't outplay C-USA or any other conference. The bi***ing is getting old already, cry me a river for Pete's sake!

I like your style..

(03-27-2013 01:49 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:02 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 12:48 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  But seriously, if y'all think this all this realignment nonsense doesn't have Liberty in the Sun Belt as some point, I want what you're smoking. The SBC is reaching out to it's long list, struggling to keep its head above the water.

I might need a hit just to get through this...

I believe that would be a direct violation of your university's code of conduct. Please make sure ot turn yourself in and face the consequences.

Pretty sure it would be a direct violation of just about any university's code of conduct....

(03-27-2013 03:07 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:49 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:02 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 12:48 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  But seriously, if y'all think this all this realignment nonsense doesn't have Liberty in the Sun Belt as some point, I want what you're smoking. The SBC is reaching out to it's long list, struggling to keep its head above the water.

I might need a hit just to get through this...

I believe that would be a direct violation of your university's code of conduct. Please make sure ot turn yourself in and face the consequences.

Pretty sure it would be a direct violation of just about any university's code of conduct....

You obviously haven't been to San Marcos then.

(03-27-2013 02:55 PM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Truth be told I think a few of the fans on here are worried that their place in the Sun Belt is diminishing. They may sense a shift of power east or know or refuse to see that App State, GA Southern and James Madison have fanbases similar to or larger than their own. Some have a superiority complex because they've been FBS for a while and feel that automatically entitles then to be better than us "newbies" in some way. All the teams in the Sun Belt are here because they're either in perceived small markets or are recent start-ups. All of us have our backs against the wall and feel that if our school was located in a big city or if we'd only started football earlier we'd be in C-USA, Big East, MAC, etc. It's time we all stick together and start taking some pride in our conference and show how we play ball in the Belt. There's no reason we can't outplay C-USA or any other conference. The bi***ing is getting old already, cry me a river for Pete's sake!

Dang, I wish I'd typed that! :woohoo:

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(03-27-2013 02:55 PM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Truth be told I think a few of the fans on here are worried that their place in the Sun Belt is diminishing. They may sense a shift of power east or know or refuse to see that App State, GA Southern and James Madison have fanbases similar to or larger than their own. Some have a superiority complex because they've been FBS for a while and feel that automatically entitles then to be better than us "newbies" in some way. All the teams in the Sun Belt are here because they're either in perceived small markets or are recent start-ups. All of us have our backs against the wall and feel that if our school was located in a big city or if we'd only started football earlier we'd be in C-USA, Big East, MAC, etc. It's time we all stick together and start taking some pride in our conference and show how we play ball in the Belt. There's no reason we can't outplay C-USA or any other conference. The bi***ing is getting old already, cry me a river for Pete's sake!

The FCS move-up bias has to go. Must we wait until one of these teams sets our pants on fire like WKU and Troy did? Let's not wait.

(03-27-2013 02:43 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:33 PM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  What is the concern with JMU? We draw large crowds, have shown a dedication to facilities and have good programs in other sports. Our men's basketball is lacking, but we were the same seed as WKU in the tourney this year. If it's that we're FCS, I understand that, but we draw better than a lot of Sun Belt schools and will eventually have as many schollys...

EDIT: And I am in no way saying we're gonna be world beaters, but I don't see that many draw backs for the Sun Belt (obviously looking through purple colored glasses like Elton John), but I'm open to hearing the concerns of current conference members.

From my view (and I know this is SUPREMELY hypocritical as we are a fresh move up from FCS), it is the perception. It is the unknown of how you will fare once here. Keep in mind, there's no guarantee that you will equal your success in FBS that you achieved in FCS.

It is that we are losing what is now an established FBS team for a move up. I liken JMU similarly to App State: I'd rather have FBS (and not Idaho or NMSU, unless NMSU is all sports) than them, but if we gotta take FCS, you guys would be on top of my list.

But it's a list of "dammit, I can't believe we have to do this" not a list of "let's cherry pick some teams to increase our profile."

Keep in mind, it's nothing against JMU as an institution or an insult to what you've accomplished. It's just the reality of the situation.

Well I'll be a Dawg Gone Eagle, and just recall two years ago Texas State, formerly Southwest Texas State was FCS too. How bout that, wow how perceptions have changed in less than 24 months. Amazing !

(03-27-2013 01:20 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:18 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 12:48 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  But seriously, if y'all think this all this realignment nonsense doesn't have Liberty in the Sun Belt as some point, I want what you're smoking. The SBC is reaching out to it's long list, struggling to keep its head above the water.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

We just might SAVE the conference!! (pun intended)

If it's a choice of YOU (Liberty) saving the conference OR letting the ship SINK, then FULL SPEED AHEAD INTO THE ICEBERG! Let 'er sink. We're Bobcats, WE Swim . . .

No, that ain't it.

When TSU joined, most were saying welcome. The same was true with GSU. Having one or 2 FCS move up does not completely change the complexion or the perception of the conference. Now that over half of the incumbent members have left or will be gone soon, the perception of the conference becomes a glorified (or not so glorified) FCS conference. This is a label that members fought for many years to shed. We just don't have the heart to start over again with almost all new members who will have to EARN respect.

Whether you believe it or not, it will take some time for your teams to be competitive in FBS football. The level of players is different and it is not just the number of scholarships. I wish you all well, but I hope we can move to another league. This will not be the league that our schools have worked hard to build. We do not wish to wait another 10 years to be in a league that is considered to be respectable

(03-27-2013 02:55 PM)pjc1979 Wrote:  Truth be told I think a few of the fans on here are worried that their place in the Sun Belt is diminishing. They may sense a shift of power east or know or refuse to see that App State, GA Southern and James Madison have fanbases similar to or larger than their own. Some have a superiority complex because they've been FBS for a while and feel that automatically entitles then to be better than us "newbies" in some way. All the teams in the Sun Belt are here because they're either in perceived small markets or are recent start-ups. All of us have our backs against the wall and feel that if our school was located in a big city or if we'd only started football earlier we'd be in C-USA, Big East, MAC, etc. It's time we all stick together and start taking some pride in our conference and show how we play ball in the Belt. There's no reason we can't outplay C-USA or any other conference. The bi***ing is getting old already, cry me a river for Pete's sake!

(03-27-2013 04:38 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:20 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:18 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 12:48 PM)Tuscon Wrote:  But seriously, if y'all think this all this realignment nonsense doesn't have Liberty in the Sun Belt as some point, I want what you're smoking. The SBC is reaching out to it's long list, struggling to keep its head above the water.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

We just might SAVE the conference!! (pun intended)

If it's a choice of YOU (Liberty) saving the conference OR letting the ship SINK, then FULL SPEED AHEAD INTO THE ICEBERG! Let 'er sink. We're Bobcats, WE Swim . . .

I'm calling your bluff!

(03-27-2013 02:10 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  We've had two good days of everybody being excited about the entry of App State and Georgia Southern. Most everybody said, "this is exactly what we needed. This will push the Sun Belt further," but now everybody is back to hating us. I'm sorry that WKU is likely moving, but bringing in JMU is not a bad thing, and that should not make everybody suddenly hate being in the Sun Belt. We're going to be fine. No, we're going to be great.

Don't take it personally .. . nobody hates you . . What we all hate is the state of college football today, what we all hate is how realignment destroys years spent improving programs, creating rivalries, changing conference perceptions, just to have all that effort go to naught with conference defections . . . We have yet to play a down of football in the SBC .. . and in the year since our invite, the conference looks nothing like the conference we said yes to, and more defections are on the horizon . . . this is frustrating for us (Bobcats) as we've already seen it play out in the WAC, and I imagine it's even MORE frustrating for SBC schools that have been here for years seeing all their efforts to improve the perception of the conference "blown up." In many ways the SBC has just been set back a number of years . . . THAT'S what we ALL HATE!

(03-27-2013 04:47 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 02:10 PM)rknj8993 Wrote:  We've had two good days of everybody being excited about the entry of App State and Georgia Southern. Most everybody said, "this is exactly what we needed. This will push the Sun Belt further," but now everybody is back to hating us. I'm sorry that WKU is likely moving, but bringing in JMU is not a bad thing, and that should not make everybody suddenly hate being in the Sun Belt. We're going to be fine. No, we're going to be great.

Don't take it personally .. . nobody hates you . . What we all hate is the state of college football today, what we all hate is how realignment destroys years spent improving programs, creating rivalries, changing conference perceptions, just to have all that effort go to naught with conference defections . . . We have yet to play a down of football in the SBC .. . and in the year since our invite, the conference looks nothing like the conference we said yes to, and more defections are on the horizon . . . this is frustrating for us (Bobcats) as we've already seen it play out in the WAC, and I imagine it's even MORE frustrating for SBC schools that have been here for years seeing all their efforts to improve the perception of the conference "blown up." In many ways the SBC has just been set back a number of years . . . THAT'S what we ALL HATE!

You can't really hate it, that's the thing that gave you an opportunity to make the move in the first place. It's like biting the hand that fed you