http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.p...mit-to-niu

Don't know much on these guys.

Heard over the weekend we lost out on Miles Simelton to Leheigh.

Anything has to be an improvement (I hope).

Is this for 2014-2015? I thought we were our of scholarships for the 2013-2014 season.

Both are listed on rivals as 6'4". They graduated high school a couple of years ago (2011 and 2012) so don't have the full four years though, except maybe the younger one.

Lots of offers for Aaric:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/...cU_q3XO5B4

Younger one was fairly highly rated. Better competitng offers than most of our other recruits, so it seems like a good get. Not sure why he went to prep school. Grades?

Does that mean Nader is gone, since they have other schollys open?

(03-27-2013 08:27 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Is this for 2014-2015? I thought we were our of scholarships for the 2013-2014 season.

You never know who will be walking out or being pushed out. MM runs the program like the CIA.

2 sets of brothers on the same team? They should all swap uniforms and numbers during our games and confuse the heck out of our opponents so they wouldn't know who they are guarding. Perhaps that is our new strategy to win games.

MM does not "run" the program like the CIA any more than any other D1 school.......again, for those of you who don't really follow college basketball, 40%of ALL D1 players TRANSFER by the end of their sophomore year. NIU's transfer rate is not worse than that average, and, in view of the losing streak of 20+ losses for 7 years, it is amazing the coaches are able to keep the percentage of kids that they do.

More amazing is that a kid with offers from Green Bay and two NCAA tournament teams (Valpo and Colorado St.) and a kid who has already played significant minutes as a frosh at UW Green Bay, could be recruited successfully to come here. These sound legit players who can help turn this thing around.

(03-27-2013 09:43 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  MM does not "run" the program like the CIA any more than any other D1 school.......again, for those of you who don't really follow college basketball, 40%of ALL D1 players TRANSFER by the end of their sophomore year. NIU's transfer rate is not worse than that average, and, in view of the losing streak of 20+ losses for 7 years, it is amazing the coaches are able to keep the percentage of kids that they do.

More amazing is that a kid with offers from Green Bay and two NCAA tournament teams (Valpo and Colorado St.) and a kid who has already played significant minutes as a frosh at UW Green Bay, could be recruited successfully to come here. These sound legit players who can help turn this thing around.

A lot of players that are transferring are going to other D1 schools...we aren't getting many of those.

one could make the case that armstead is transferring from U W Greenbay (via Juco) and we are getting him....what is with the constant Debbie downer attitude? Can't anyone appreciate the efforts the staff is putting in to turn this trainwreck around? It doesn't happen overnight (as St. Novak saw) and to get two quality players like these kids, in spite of their other, higher level offers, I would suggest MM is burning the candle at both ends and doing a helluva job beating the bushes for talent.

Cagy...just curious what your take on Nader's return is? 50/50?

(03-27-2013 10:54 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  one could make the case that armstead is transferring from U W Greenbay (via Juco) and we are getting him....what is with the constant Debbie downer attitude? Can't anyone appreciate the efforts the staff is putting in to turn this trainwreck around? It doesn't happen overnight (as St. Novak saw) and to get two quality players like these kids, in spite of their other, higher level offers, I would suggest MM is burning the candle at both ends and doing a helluva job beating the bushes for talent.

Aaric Armstead (Hales), Jerron Wilbut (Downers Grove South), Tim Williams (Homewood-Flossmoor), Brad Foster (Lincoln-Way Central), Darius Paul (Warren), Ka'Darryl Bell (Oak Park) and Fred VanVleet (Rockford Auburn) looked like potential high-major players at the Nike Spring Showdown last weekend, but they'll need to duplicate those performances when college coaches can attend AAU tournaments come July.

A couple of diminutive guards, North Chicago's Aaron Simpson and Young's Derrick Randolph, Lake Forest Academy's Charles Harris, Proviso East's Keith Carter and Hales' Eddie Alcantara round out the best of 2012 from the Chicago area.

Awkward shots: Aaric Armstead is the most athletic player on his team, which is saying something considering he's playing for the talent-rich Mac Irvin Fire after helping lead Hales to the 2A state title in March.

There's only one thing preventing all the big names from offering the 6-5 shooting guard a scholarship — his shot.

While he's a decent outside shooter, the mechanics of his shot — he brings his elbow in near his body and releases directly over his head — worries some coaches.

"It is awkward," Armstead said. "It is how I've been shooting my whole life. My old coaches always asked me about it, but I wanted to stick with what's working. I don't want to mess it up. People come to me wanting me to change, but that's more than a summer's worth of work."

He has nine scholarship offers, with New Mexico the biggest program among them.

Armstead said Gonzaga coach Mark Few jumped into the fray last week, joining other established programs like Marquette and Xavier.

Wisconsin-Green Bay, which signed his older brother, Hales senior Aaron Armstead, appears to be a longshot.

"He tells me, 'See where you fit best at. If u want to come to Green Bay, of course,' but he wants me to find the place that's best for me," Aaric Armstead said.

(03-27-2013 10:54 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  one could make the case that armstead is transferring from U W Greenbay (via Juco) and we are getting him....what is with the constant Debbie downer attitude? Can't anyone appreciate the efforts the staff is putting in to turn this trainwreck around? It doesn't happen overnight (as St. Novak saw) and to get two quality players like these kids, in spite of their other, higher level offers, I would suggest MM is burning the candle at both ends and doing a helluva job beating the bushes for talent.

The good mid-majors are getting transfers from big schools. We're getting transfers from mediocre mid-majors...which I guess is a step above us, but still, hardly going to make a dent on our improvement.

(03-27-2013 11:31 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:54 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  one could make the case that armstead is transferring from U W Greenbay (via Juco) and we are getting him....what is with the constant Debbie downer attitude? Can't anyone appreciate the efforts the staff is putting in to turn this trainwreck around? It doesn't happen overnight (as St. Novak saw) and to get two quality players like these kids, in spite of their other, higher level offers, I would suggest MM is burning the candle at both ends and doing a helluva job beating the bushes for talent.

Aaric Armstead (Hales), Jerron Wilbut (Downers Grove South), Tim Williams (Homewood-Flossmoor), Brad Foster (Lincoln-Way Central), Darius Paul (Warren), Ka'Darryl Bell (Oak Park) and Fred VanVleet (Rockford Auburn) looked like potential high-major players at the Nike Spring Showdown last weekend, but they'll need to duplicate those performances when college coaches can attend AAU tournaments come July.

A couple of diminutive guards, North Chicago's Aaron Simpson and Young's Derrick Randolph, Lake Forest Academy's Charles Harris, Proviso East's Keith Carter and Hales' Eddie Alcantara round out the best of 2012 from the Chicago area.

Awkward shots: Aaric Armstead is the most athletic player on his team, which is saying something considering he's playing for the talent-rich Mac Irvin Fire after helping lead Hales to the 2A state title in March.

There's only one thing preventing all the big names from offering the 6-5 shooting guard a scholarship — his shot.

While he's a decent outside shooter, the mechanics of his shot — he brings his elbow in near his body and releases directly over his head — worries some coaches.

"It is awkward," Armstead said. "It is how I've been shooting my whole life. My old coaches always asked me about it, but I wanted to stick with what's working. I don't want to mess it up. People come to me wanting me to change, but that's more than a summer's worth of work."

He has nine scholarship offers, with New Mexico the biggest program among them.

Armstead said Gonzaga coach Mark Few jumped into the fray last week, joining other established programs like Marquette and Xavier.

Wisconsin-Green Bay, which signed his older brother, Hales senior Aaron Armstead, appears to be a longshot.

"He tells me, 'See where you fit best at. If u want to come to Green Bay, of course,' but he wants me to find the place that's best for me," Aaric Armstead said.

Oh great...we're getting a guy who can't shoot. That'll help.

Nader is gone - kicked off the team.

(03-27-2013 12:35 PM)Zao123 Wrote:  Nader is gone - kicked off the team.

Again are these 2 guys for the upcoming season 13-14 or 14-15?

Thought we only have 1 scholarship if Nader leaves...unless some one else is gone, which would not be surprising.


Knowing very little about basketball positions and only looking at the stats it seems that JJ would be the first to be asked to move on. Yes? No?

(03-27-2013 12:35 PM)Zao123 Wrote:  Nader is gone - kicked off the team.

Room to bring on someone who is a team player and can help the team.

(03-27-2013 11:32 AM)niusfactuary Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 11:31 AM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 10:54 AM)cagy cager Wrote:  one could make the case that armstead is transferring from U W Greenbay (via Juco) and we are getting him....what is with the constant Debbie downer attitude? Can't anyone appreciate the efforts the staff is putting in to turn this trainwreck around? It doesn't happen overnight (as St. Novak saw) and to get two quality players like these kids, in spite of their other, higher level offers, I would suggest MM is burning the candle at both ends and doing a helluva job beating the bushes for talent.

Aaric Armstead (Hales), Jerron Wilbut (Downers Grove South), Tim Williams (Homewood-Flossmoor), Brad Foster (Lincoln-Way Central), Darius Paul (Warren), Ka'Darryl Bell (Oak Park) and Fred VanVleet (Rockford Auburn) looked like potential high-major players at the Nike Spring Showdown last weekend, but they'll need to duplicate those performances when college coaches can attend AAU tournaments come July.

A couple of diminutive guards, North Chicago's Aaron Simpson and Young's Derrick Randolph, Lake Forest Academy's Charles Harris, Proviso East's Keith Carter and Hales' Eddie Alcantara round out the best of 2012 from the Chicago area.

Awkward shots: Aaric Armstead is the most athletic player on his team, which is saying something considering he's playing for the talent-rich Mac Irvin Fire after helping lead Hales to the 2A state title in March.

There's only one thing preventing all the big names from offering the 6-5 shooting guard a scholarship — his shot.

While he's a decent outside shooter, the mechanics of his shot — he brings his elbow in near his body and releases directly over his head — worries some coaches.

"It is awkward," Armstead said. "It is how I've been shooting my whole life. My old coaches always asked me about it, but I wanted to stick with what's working. I don't want to mess it up. People come to me wanting me to change, but that's more than a summer's worth of work."

He has nine scholarship offers, with New Mexico the biggest program among them.

Armstead said Gonzaga coach Mark Few jumped into the fray last week, joining other established programs like Marquette and Xavier.

Wisconsin-Green Bay, which signed his older brother, Hales senior Aaron Armstead, appears to be a longshot.

"He tells me, 'See where you fit best at. If u want to come to Green Bay, of course,' but he wants me to find the place that's best for me," Aaric Armstead said.

Oh great...we're getting a guy who can't shoot. That'll help.

Well they said he's a decent outside shooter. That's probably still better than what we've had lately. I don't care what he looks like when he's shooting if it goes in.