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SB Nation article on TT and UC
Looking to each other for stability: Tommy Tuberville, Cincinnati and the future

By Steven Godfreyon Mar 27 2013, 10:39a

By the time it was clear that a menu for the 50 Yard Line Steakhouse in Lubbock, TX, was making its way through the fax machine at the University of Cincinnati's football offices on National Signing Day, Tommy Tuberville just laughed.

"Yeah, I laughed. You have to laugh," he shrugs.

After a three-year relationship with Texas Tech that never quite cottoned on either side, Tuberville left following the 2012 season to replace Butch Jones at Cincinnati. The Red Raiders hired 33-year-old former quarterback Kliff Kingsbury, a disciple of embattled former coach Mike Leach, Tubs' wildly popular predecessor. At his hiring press conference Kingsbury asked Tech athletic director Kirby Hocutt to schedule Cincinnati, one of many overt digs at Tuberville. The menu-faxing was a response to an incident in which Tuberville allegedly excused himself from a dinner with coaches and Tech recruits and never returned, fleeing to take the UC job the next day.

"Back when I left [Lubbock] there was a lot of people that wrote stories about how I left and how I walked out on a recruiting dinner," Tuberville says. "I think at some point a lot of these reporters are going to have quit reading blogs and do their own investigating, because that’s what happened. No one called me about that. I was a little disappointed in them. I got raked over the coals for something I didn’t do. They read what somebody put on a blog."

To those who have covered him throughout a decade-plus in the SEC and beyond, this is the old Tommy Tuberville, austere and calculating. He flatly denies ever walking out on a recruit. But this is also a newer, calmer Tuberville, a man willing to work from a pool of knowledge and experience that's virtually unrivaled in the industry. And such a demeanor is forgivable if the person in question was a college football head coach in the state of Alabama for any significant amount of time.

"Every other year Paul Finebaum used me as a punching bag, and we’re good friends now," he says. "I understand the media, to a degree. Of course, we’ve kind of brought it on ourselves with all the money that’s in it, the money that we make, the money that’s in all of our sports, how things have changed. And we all look for that sense of wanting people to be interested in what we’re doing ... college football is great, but when something goes wrong, you’ve got to take the criticism."

There's some symmetry here: Tuberville is making his fourth stop as a head coach at a program on its fourth head coach since joining the Big East in 2004. Both are clearly looking for a safe harbor, and both believe they've got plenty to give an even more to prove.

"I knew I wanted to take one home run swing," Cincinnati AD Whit Babcock said. "I wanted it to be fast, and if it didn't connect I wanted to quietly move on."

So Babcock, a former baseball player at James Madison University, took his metaphorical cut immediately. After a prolonged waiting game with Jones, who flirted first with Purdue and Colorado before finally taking the Tennessee job once Louisville head coach Charlie Strong passed, Tuberville was Babcock's immediate call in early December. The two have known each other since Babcock's five-year run as an associate AD at Auburn, and stayed in touch over the years.

"It was a pretty quick conversation. I said 'Hey coach, I think the world of you, but I really only have one day to work on this. If you're not interested, I'll move on quickly.'"

Babcock's big swing connected enough for Tuberville to leave his 20-17 record and two bowl appearances in three years with Tech. His wife Suzanne is from the Cincinnati area (Guilford, IN, about 30 miles west), and according to the coach, the Bearcats offered something Lubbock didn't: a recruiting base suited to his preferences.

"It all goes back to one thing - quarterback," he says. "What kind of quarterback can you recruit? And in Texas most of the high schools were running spread [offenses], and you could either go out and find a throwing quarterback or a scrambling, running quarterback. There wasn’t many pro-style guys, and if you bring in a guy that’s never been around a pro-style offense that’s taken a snap underneath the center, I mean, it’s a huge transition. So I’ve noticed in [Ohio] that there’s a lot more pro-style offenses. There’s a lot of these spread offenses that are good, and I just had one for three years [former offensive coordinator Neil Brown is installing the Air Raid at Kentucky]. We put up a lot of points, won some games and had some excellent players. It just goes back to one thing: What type of player can you recruit?"

Tuberville denies that he even considered the tumult in the Big East and the Bearcats' cloudy conference future when he took the job, citing the Big 12's own potential dismemberment just three years ago.

"I was just at a school out in west Texas where we didn’t know day in or day out whether we were going to be in the Pac-10 or Big 12 or WAC or independent. You just didn’t know. We just found out about this time last year, hey, it’s gonna survive. You know that as a head coach you look at the opportunity to win games and what type of players you can recruit to a university, to a school, the opportunity to see maybe what kind of staff you can build. But I can’t control the conference. I couldn’t out there, couldn’t in the SEC, can't here."

That won't stop Tuberville from building the Bearcats to be ready to compete in a new conference under his watch, be it the ACC or Big 12. He acknowledges that he and his staff are recruiting with a potential conference change in mind and the subsequent level of talent such a move would require for Cincinnati to be successful.

"We want to recruit against everybody in the country," he says. "You don’t want to just go out and say, 'well, this guy’s available and no one else is recruiting him, we gotta take him.' We’re not gonna do that. We’re gonna compete against everybody in this state and all the Big Ten teams and ACC and SEC. You’re not gonna beat ‘em every time, but they can’t take ‘em all."

It's that philosophy that has already caused a stir in Ohio. Upon Tuberville's arrival, controversy arose from allegations that the new Cincinnati staff wouldn't honor the commitments of any recruits in the 2013 class that had been landed by Jones' staff. Specifically, quarterback Kyle Kempt of powerhouse Massillon Washington. As detailed by Friday Night Ohio, head coach Jason Hall stated that Kempt assumed he'd follow Jones to Tennessee, having actually committed to UC over the Volunteers earlier in the season. When Tennessee offered another quarterback, Hall alleges that Kempt wasn't allowed to "fall back" on his commitment to Cincinnati, and because of that, Tuberville's staff would not be welcomed at Washington High School.

Hall did not respond to multiple interview requests. Tuberville cited NCAA recruiting guidelines in not commenting specifically about Kempt and Washington High.

Of the 15 players committed under Jones, four signed with Cincinnati. Kempt ultimately signed with Oregon State, but some believe that regardless of the specific timeline of events, Tuberville has damage to undo.

"He burned a lot of bridges quickly," said Josh Helmholdt, Rivals' midwest recruiting analyst. "The toughest part of recruiting isn't so much the end but the beginning, the initial building of relationships. It's about getting respect from the high school programs and starting the process off right. When a new head coach comes in, in some ways that program speaks for itself, and they're able to build upon that with the area high school coaches. There was a strong foundation laid by Kelly and Jones, and now he's going to have to play catch-up to get to where they used to be."

Babcock said that the situation was "blown out of proportion" and praised Tuberville for landing what he deemed a successful class on a short turnaround.

"We've got to recruit Ohio in order to be successful, and we're confident with this staff that we can do that. [Tuberville's] track record in recruiting and big games speaks for itself," said Babcock.

Helmholdt said that he'll have a better feel for the situation when Rivals holds one of its camps for recruits on April 20 in nearby Lakota West High School. Cincinnati plans on an aggressive push both nationally and statewide and has a staff filled with historically successful recruiters, namely offensive coordinator Eddie Gran, most recently of Florida State, and associate head coach Robert Prunty, a member of Tuberville's Tech staff who was named the 2013 Big East recruiter of the year by Scout.com.

The calmer Tuberville seems unfazed by the early controversy and speaks of the state of Ohio's talent with such excitement and awe you'd swear he didn't just come from a coaching job in Texas.

"There’s 50 high schools within a 10-mile radius of here that we can hang our hat on year in and year out," he says. "The thing about Lubbock, you know, I enjoyed it. The people were great, they love football. And that’s what I was excited about when I went to West Texas, to be around all of those folks. But there is a little bit of a problem recruiting at Tech because you’re so far away. You have to have some salesmen on your staff because you’ve got to go far away to get players."

"We signed several players from West Texas every year, and there’s always good players there, but when you have to go four or five hours to get most of your players, it’s a concern. They’re in a good league, but again you go back and look last year in the state of Texas, and there’s close to 400 players that were Division I signees. And so there’s enough to go around. The problem is that you’re not around to evaluate them. You’re going to make a few more mistakes out of your 25 because of that. We took our camps to Houston, to Dallas to try and get to know as many players as we could, but there’s not enough time to get to all those areas in the state of Texas. Here ... we can go to Cleveland, we can go to Columbus, we can go to Indianapolis, we can go to Nashville. We can go to surrounding areas with a lot of population and hopefully find some diamonds in the rough. They’re still out there, people say that because of the internet they’re not out there, but they are."

In conversation Tuberville is genuine in his appreciation for Texas high school football, complimenting the wild 7-on-7 camps that have seemingly taken the game over in that region and given rise to success stories like Robert Griffin III and Johnny Manziel. Tuberville's son Tucker, a redshirt quarterback transferring to UC, competed in the 7-on-7 system. But a coach that built his success largely on the play of running backs and linebackers feels a level of comfort outside of a Texas culture that's come to consider the air raid and spread option as not a trend but a rule of law.

"You’re normally going to have 12 to 13 at each position on scholarship. Out there, you better have 16 to 17 DBs on scholarship," he says. "You’re not going to need as many linebackers because you’re going to be playing nickels and dimes. You’ll have four corners in the game a lot and then two safeties. So there has to be an adjustment, and we did that. We went in and signed more DBs and speed rushers on the outside. We went to Jucos, we went everywhere to find guys who would come off the corner. You have to create pressure and you have to have height. You can’t be playing 6'1, 6'2 defensive ends, because those passing lanes on the outside are tougher."

Current realignment rumors seem to point to the ACC, but if Cincinnati happens to be called up by the Big 12, Tuberville would re-enter that conference with a blueprint for stopping one of its most popular offenses. His signature win in Lubbock came with a 49-14 dismantling of then-No. 5 West Virginia in a game that saw the Mountaineers' offense absolutely humbled and quarterback Geno Smith's Heisman hopes destroyed. Smith threw for 275 yards, more than 100 yards below his season average, and was held to only one touchdown. The win gave Tuberville something that had eluded him for two and a half seasons in the high scoring Big 12: a win defined by defense.

"We went to Texas Tech knowing that we could score some points but there wasn’t a lot of emphasis on defense when we got there. Mike’s an offensive guy and he’s good at it. So we had to kind of change the structure of recruiting and the type of players we wanted and the technique. We wanted to win games on defense, and so all last year during spring ball and through the situation of getting ready for them last fall, it stuck in my mind that we’re not very good defensively. What are we going to do when we play West Virginia? Because I saw them absolutely dismantle Clemson. Clemson had a lot better defensive talent than we had. So we worked a lot on it. We understood it of course, because we ran a little bit of that offense. So it gave us the opportunity to try some things in spring practice to look at some things, maybe it will work, maybe it won't."

Tuberville and longtime defensive coordinator Art Kaufman took away the running game and keyed a nickelback on Tavon Austin, who had only one reception in the entire game.

"Of course the one thing you have to do against that offense is, you can think about all the pass you want, but if you put five up there to stop the run, they’re going to run it. And that’s what they did against Texas. That’s what they did against Oklahoma, so we stopped the run, and we did a good job on their inside receivers.

"I kept telling all the team, 'One day, one game, one of these days we’re going to win a game on defense. I’m tired of trying to win games 50-49.' That was the first time we lined up, played a game defensively."

Tuberville insists he's in no way scrapping the spread option, an offense Jones was fond of running the ball with. He wants multiplicity in his sets and the ability to shift formations around personnel. When we spoke early in spring practice, the onus was on a crash-course of pass protections for the offensive line, which returns every starter from last season. Tuberville wants the ability to shift between Jones' system, which ideally fits mobile quarterback Munchie Legaux, and a pro-style that could suit spring rival Brendon Kay, who beat out Legaux for the job late in 2012.

"We want to give our players a chance," Tuberville says. "We’re going to be unpredictable. We’re going to run the spread running game, we’re going to run the pro-style running game, and then we’re going to run the spread play-action pass game and we’re going to throw the ball deep. It’s just we’ve got to find a balance of what these quarterbacks can do with what we have."

On paper, Cincinnati is as much as a football school as anywhere else. The Bearcats became an anomalous success as Big East football began to erode and also the single hottest coaching spot in the country. Cincy's last three coaches built a largely unnoticed juggernaut, boasting two BCS bowls and at least a share of the conference title and 10 wins in four of the last five seasons. If anything, the Bearcats hired too well for a program surrounded by growing uncertainty in its conference, and its trio of former MAC head coaches parlayed stints in the Queen City into bigger jobs: Mark Dantonio to Michigan State, Brian Kelly to Notre Dame and Jones to Tennessee.

Meanwhile, UC has watched conference rivals Louisville, Pittsburgh, West Virginia, Syracuse and Rutgers depart for thriving conferences. And over the next two seasons, seven former Conference USA programs will join the former Big East, stripped of its name and minus its basketball-only schools. The remaining group will split a paltry TV deal of C-USA merit with ESPN.

Basically, the neighborhood Cincinnati moved away from caught back up with it. The school has an extensive P.R. presentation designed to show its merit compared to existing ACC schools. In it UC touts a cumulative BCS ranking of No. 16 over the last six seasons, a number stronger than BCS programs like Arkansas, Clemson and Michigan.

Babcock sat in the unenviable position of looking for a proven winner to follow three hugely successful hires while also potentially being the last team off of the sinking Big East ship.

"I don't know what the future holds," Babcock said. "So my only goal was to hire the best football coach I can possibly get at that moment."

That coach is far from immune to controversy, or at least what could be considered bold decisions and unapologetic opinions. For his part, Babcock said that Tech was one of multiple schools Cincinnati had been in talks with for future non-conference series, but he won't fan any of those flames now.

"We had a lot of lines out in the water, and Tech had come back to the table shortly before [the hire]. But once we hired Coach Tuberville I thought that it wasn't something I wanted to do now, that it was better to have a fresh start for all involved."
 
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RE: SB Nation article on TT and UC
Just finished reading that actually. Really enjoyed it.
 
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I liked Butch Jones more than most of the Bearcat fans I know. That said, I love reading an interview with the coach without having to mentally edit out mentions of family, Bearcat tough, fist up d, family, hold the rope, etc...
 
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Wow something informative and fair. Good article.
 
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Also, Whit has get major bonus points for being professional and not fanning the flames like Tech' AD and Kingsbury.
 
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THAT was a good article. You can tell Coach has a plan and he knows how to get there. I wish all these recruiting guru's would quit harping on the way he pulled the offers to Jones' players. No one ever mentions that Dantonio did the same thing, and it arguably started the change in course of UC football from MAC level to BCS level.

And yes, when I read all of CTT's quotes, I read them in my best slow southern drawl inside voice. 03-lmfao
 
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(03-27-2013 11:33 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  THAT was a good article. You can tell Coach has a plan and he knows how to get there. I wish all these recruiting guru's would quit harping on the way he pulled the offers to Jones' players. No one ever mentions that Dantonio did the same thing, and it arguably started the change in course of UC football from MAC level to BCS level.

And yes, when I read all of CTT's quotes, I read them in my best slow southern drawl inside voice. 03-lmfao

I thought I was the only one. 04-cheers
 
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Really good article. Probably one of the best I've seen written about UC. Lots of great information in there.
 
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Great article Rag 04-bow
 
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"If anything, the Bearcats hired too well for a program surrounded by growing uncertainty in its conference, and its trio of former MAC head coaches parlayed stints in the Queen City into bigger jobs: Mark Dantonio to Michigan State, Brian Kelly to Notre Dame and Jones to Tennessee."


Only thing I had a problem with is the fact that Dantonio wasn't a MAC head coach...details, details. Otherwise, it was a pretty good article. Discussed the positives of the program, some of the controversies, but was a good, informative article.
 
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Great article. Thought it was fair and provided alot of good info from Coach T.
 
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