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New TV deal for soon-to-be-renamed Big East
New TV deal for soon-to-be-renamed Big East
03/26/13 at 11:26am by Bill Koch

The soon-to-be-renamed Big East Conference announced Tuesday that it has entered into an agreement with long-time partner CBS Sports to telecast men’s basketball games through the 2019-20 season.

The contract includes up to 12 appearances per season. Half of the appearances each season will be conference games. CBS Sports retains the right to have the first selections among conference, non-conference and neutral site games. Financial terms of the agreement were not announced.

This agreement is in addition to the deal with ESPN With this agreement and a previously announced deal with ESPN.

Beginning with the 2014-15 academic year, the conference will consist of Central Florida, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Houston, Memphis, Southern Methodist, South Florida, Temple, and Tulane. East Carolina will be a football-only member. The U.S. Naval Academy will become a football-only member in 2015.

Commissioner Michael Aresco announced last week that the league had entered into a multiyear contract with ESPN to telecast its football, basketball and Olympic sports. Financial terms of the agreement were not announced. The contract will run through 2019-20.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2013/03/2...-big-east/
 
03-26-2013 01:35 PM
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I a, sure this deal is just as bottom feeder as the football deal, forvigve me for not being excited.
 
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(03-26-2013 04:09 PM)Kenyon#4 Wrote:  I a, sure this deal is just as bottom feeder as the football deal, forvigve me for not being excited.

If it wasn't, terms would be announced.. 05-ban
 
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Don't disagree with what you say. but every dollar added is more than what they get now.
 
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(03-26-2013 04:32 PM)ctipton Wrote:  Don't disagree with what you say. but every dollar added is more than what they get now.

Technically, less than what they get now. Still running under the old deal.
 
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my guess is that even when you count this deal we'll still will be making less than XU and DePaul


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(03-26-2013 06:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  my guess is that even when you count this deal we'll still will be making less than XU and DePaul
Yes, its a $3m/yr deal ($21m-$22m over 7yrs), bringing the TV total to about $23m, which is, indeed, less than the "$30m to $40m" that the New Big East will be getting.

NCAA units already banked are worth more than this TV deal through to 2017.
 
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(03-26-2013 06:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  my guess is that even when you count this deal we'll still will be making less than XU and DePaul


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Heard XU Prez say their deal would max at 2.5 for a period of years, at best we will get 2 million from both networks.Unbelievable. Now we should make substantial money from leftover bb credits, selling BE name rights,Etc. These, I assume, are only good if we stay long enough to collect them.
 
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Combine the settlement from the conference split with new TV deals and UC should net substantially more total conference revenue the next five years than X. Expect UC to be out of the old BE long before that well runs dry and into a power five with an even better revenue stream.
 
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(03-27-2013 09:17 AM)indycat Wrote:  Combine the settlement from the conference split with new TV deals and UC should net substantially more total conference revenue the next five years than X. Expect UC to be out of the old BE long before that well runs dry and into a power five with an even better revenue stream.

Cincinnati will either move on to a power conference with a better revenue stream or realignment will become stable allowing the current to negotiate a better deal down the line.

I think Cincinnati was on CBS once during their last few years in the Big East, excluding tournament games.

All this talk about revenue streams and conferences doesn't matter if you don't win. Anybody want to become Boston College, Wake Forest, Washington State, Vandy, Miss State, Northwestern, Minnesota, Oregon State, Texas Tech, and any other major conference also ran.
 
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(03-27-2013 09:27 AM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  
(03-27-2013 09:17 AM)indycat Wrote:  Combine the settlement from the conference split with new TV deals and UC should net substantially more total conference revenue the next five years than X. Expect UC to be out of the old BE long before that well runs dry and into a power five with an even better revenue stream.

Cincinnati will either move on to a power conference with a better revenue stream or realignment will become stable allowing the current to negotiate a better deal down the line.

I think Cincinnati was on CBS once during their last few years in the Big East, excluding tournament games.

All this talk about revenue streams and conferences doesn't matter if you don't win. Anybody want to become Boston College, Wake Forest, Washington State, Vandy, Miss State, Northwestern, Minnesota, Oregon State, Texas Tech, and any other major conference also ran.

Of course not, but let's be honest: winning is a lot easier with twenty million a year versus two million a year.
 
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^^ Exactly, and let's be clear; we won't be Wake Forest, Washington State etc. We might struggle for a couple years, but we will quickly adjust with better recruiting and ability to pay better coaching salaries. We live in a fertile recruiting territory. Washington State, BC, Minnesota, Oregon State (not so much). Schools like Texas Tech and Wake Forest are the #4 team in their own states.
 
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(03-27-2013 08:36 AM)CincyBro Wrote:  Heard XU Prez say their deal would max at 2.5 for a period of years, at best we will get 2 million from both networks. Unbelievable.
Four recognizable names play each other a max of (3+2+1=6)x2=12 times.
Six recognizable names play each other a max of (5+4+3+2+1=15)x2=30 times.

And market value depends on who is bidding and what they need. Fox Sports needed Winter inventory, they already have lots of fall inventory. So they would rather pay just for a stock of recognizable BB games than pay for a bunch of mid-major FB games that they don't have programming slots for. And they HAD to offer enough to get the C7 to jump ship. They couldn't lowball the bid, they had to bid a fair price for the media rights.

That left NBC Sports making a lowball bid to the Big TBA on inventory it didn't critically need but could profit from at the right price, and since it was a lowball bid, and they were the only counter-bidder, ESPN only had to match their lowball bid.

Quote: Now we should make substantial money from leftover bb credits, selling BE name rights,Etc. These, I assume, are only good if we stay long enough to collect them.

The "purchase of the BE name" was basically in kind ~ the C7 did a quit of all claims in return for assigning the name, assigning the MSG deal, a small bit of cash and an agreement to forward the tournament credits earned by C7 schools to the New Big East. And the assigning the MSG deal was not a major deal, since the MSG had an out clause anyway, which they would likely have exercised on the Big TBA.

But that means that most of exit fees actually banked as well as any still outstanding would be available to pay out, once they decide on what basis to pay them out.

For the BB credits, perhaps ~ but the legacy BB credits expire over time, so they are on a downward track. The 17 FB school appearances in 2009 are still paying out, for instance, but in another couple of years, they'll be finished. Just on games played to date, the exiting FB schools will have generated (ball park estimates, taking $0.15m/appearance/year, treats credits as paid at end of school year & still have teams playing with credits to add to the bank):
2013: $17.25m
2014: $14.75m
2015: $10.5m
2016: $7.75m
2017; $4.5m
2018: $1.75m

If the Big TBA were to be a four bid, two second round conference, then (treating Sweet 16 and Final Four appearances as windfalls), that's a steady state income of about $9m, with about $1.5m being added each year.

And you'd have to know what the conference bonus to the school making the appearance is to know how that would add to the conference payout. In the ACC, its all for one, one for all ~ in the A-10, its 3/4 to the school appearing, 1/4 to the conference pool. I wouldn't be surprised if the current argument inside the Big TBA is settled at 50:50 unit split, with the legacy school's 50% share divided between those who were in the conference when the units were earned.

A 50/50 share would push the conference payout above $3m in the early years, but of course to keep it there, the Big TBA would have to win NCAA bids and then proceed to win some games.
 
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