(03-24-2013 07:50 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:45 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:32 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:23 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:21 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  SSDD from our resident t-shirt aggy fan. According to rumors on both our rival and scout sites, we had an offer to go to the PAC but UT and ESPN killed the deal. We have value in terms of facilities, state of Texas TV market and the 29th largest attendance in the country.

10th only criticizes Tech because he knows we are a force and we have value which is a threat to his t-shirt school.

As for parasite, one need to look no further to see the parasite in collieville. Demanded to be paid like an elite athletic department yet sucked big time during most of their Big 12 days. No wonder you hauled butt to the SEC. Couldn't beat Texas on a regular basis and had a losing record to Tech. Manziel will go to the NFL and Sumlin will bolt for a better, more prestigious job like OU and aggy will once again go back to their underachieving ways. They will once again take more than they earn.

Doesn't matter what they did, they are big time now. Come back when you win your first cotton bowl...lmao....

No they aren't. They caught lightning in a bottle and surprised some teams in the SEC. Teams will be ready for aggy in 2013 and they will go back to their underachieving ways. Now run along back to the kiddie table and let the grownups that put 60K + plus in the stands and have a seat in a power 4 conference talk. Wake me up when you can get more than 35K to show up and watch Houston during the regular season. LOL

All we need is 40k-45k attendance to pass up Tech. Any conference would rather have us. UH with 40k-45k attendance > anything Tech in ****** Lubbock lol. Most garbage underachieving program in Texas. PS nobody wants you on the big boy table.

LOL. We averaged 57K in a down year with pine box. If any conference wanted Houston, you would be in Dr. Khator's dream conference, the Big 12. If any power 4 conference valued the Houston TV market and the 21K fans that you averaged since 1996, UH would be in a power 4 conference.

Like I said, wake me up when UH averages 40K. It would only be the 4th time in your history. 2 in the 60's and 1 in the 70's. Commuter school at its finest.

So? Whats wrong with being a commuter school? and FIY, there will be 8k beds at the end of next year.
Just keep clinging on to your attendance trophy. Attendance is rising at UH, even you are not foolish enough to dispute that.
In 2005 we averaged 15k, in 8 years we increased 12k-17k in attendance, while tech continues its tradition of losing. In about 7 years we will be near or at 40k. Tech's 60k won't matter then.

UH with a 40k fanbase and Houston > Team that knows nothing about winning. LOL, like I said comeback when you win your first cotton.

(03-24-2013 07:51 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  "We had a stand alone invite to the PAC not contingent on anyone else but we turned it down!"

Bwahahahahahaaaaa

Sure buddy, whatever makes you feel like tech is a big boy school!

Enjoy watching A&M continue its ascent as Texas' SEC school while Tech continues to wallow in a conference this state cares less and less about with each passing year! Can't wait for your little ratings reports for this upcoming season to prove it for me!

Now what I said t-shirt. We had an offer and UT/ESPN killed the deal. We are big boy school and play in a big boy conference. Manziel and Sumlin will soon leave the cult and go to bigger/greener pastures without all the crazy delusional fans that occupy collieville.

(03-24-2013 07:54 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:49 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  And your only on the big boy table because of TEXAS, you didnt earn ****

BS. We had a LT Gov who demanded we be included. I'm sorry no one in the Texas Legislature cared about a huge commuter school that averaged 28K fans in the SWC.

We have definitely earned a seat at the big boy table with our performance in the Big 12, our facilities, our large fan base and our ability to attract TV viewers in Houston and across the state.

0 Conference championships, 0 cotton bowl wins is not performance.

"We earned our place by crying to politicians to be included in a conference that didn't want us!"

Bwahahahahahaaaaa!

Sure buddy! Whatever makes you feel like a big boy and not the parasite you are!

(03-24-2013 07:57 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:50 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:45 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:32 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:23 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  Doesn't matter what they did, they are big time now. Come back when you win your first cotton bowl...lmao....

No they aren't. They caught lightning in a bottle and surprised some teams in the SEC. Teams will be ready for aggy in 2013 and they will go back to their underachieving ways. Now run along back to the kiddie table and let the grownups that put 60K + plus in the stands and have a seat in a power 4 conference talk. Wake me up when you can get more than 35K to show up and watch Houston during the regular season. LOL

All we need is 40k-45k attendance to pass up Tech. Any conference would rather have us. UH with 40k-45k attendance > anything Tech in ****** Lubbock lol. Most garbage underachieving program in Texas. PS nobody wants you on the big boy table.

LOL. We averaged 57K in a down year with pine box. If any conference wanted Houston, you would be in Dr. Khator's dream conference, the Big 12. If any power 4 conference valued the Houston TV market and the 21K fans that you averaged since 1996, UH would be in a power 4 conference.

Like I said, wake me up when UH averages 40K. It would only be the 4th time in your history. 2 in the 60's and 1 in the 70's. Commuter school at its finest.

So? Whats wrong with being a commuter school? and FIY, there will be 8k beds at the end of next year.
Just keep clinging on to your attendance trophy. Attendance is rising at UH, even you are not foolish enough to dispute that.
In 2005 we averaged 15k, in 8 years we increased 12k-17k in attendance, while tech continues its tradition of losing. In about 7 years we will be near or at 40k. Tech's 60k won't matter then.

UH with a 40k fanbase and Houston > Team that knows nothing about winning. LOL, like I said comeback when you win your first cotton.

Commuter students who live with mommy and daddy or come from a foreign country and stay in one of the dowms usually do not lead to long time faithful alumni who contribute/donate to the University. 40K students and 200K alumni and the UH admin can only build a 40K seat stadium. I think that says everything you need to know. The UH admin can't count on their students/alumni to show up unless a Big 12 Texas school comes to town or UH is trying to be a BCS buster. Despite pine box, we are still the 4th winningest program in the Big 12.

I bet Dr. Khator would love to be as irrelevant as Tech. LOL

Parasite= taking increased exit money that you didn't earn. LOL

(03-24-2013 08:04 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:57 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:50 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:45 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 07:32 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  No they aren't. They caught lightning in a bottle and surprised some teams in the SEC. Teams will be ready for aggy in 2013 and they will go back to their underachieving ways. Now run along back to the kiddie table and let the grownups that put 60K + plus in the stands and have a seat in a power 4 conference talk. Wake me up when you can get more than 35K to show up and watch Houston during the regular season. LOL

All we need is 40k-45k attendance to pass up Tech. Any conference would rather have us. UH with 40k-45k attendance > anything Tech in ****** Lubbock lol. Most garbage underachieving program in Texas. PS nobody wants you on the big boy table.

LOL. We averaged 57K in a down year with pine box. If any conference wanted Houston, you would be in Dr. Khator's dream conference, the Big 12. If any power 4 conference valued the Houston TV market and the 21K fans that you averaged since 1996, UH would be in a power 4 conference.

Like I said, wake me up when UH averages 40K. It would only be the 4th time in your history. 2 in the 60's and 1 in the 70's. Commuter school at its finest.

So? Whats wrong with being a commuter school? and FIY, there will be 8k beds at the end of next year.
Just keep clinging on to your attendance trophy. Attendance is rising at UH, even you are not foolish enough to dispute that.
In 2005 we averaged 15k, in 8 years we increased 12k-17k in attendance, while tech continues its tradition of losing. In about 7 years we will be near or at 40k. Tech's 60k won't matter then.

UH with a 40k fanbase and Houston > Team that knows nothing about winning. LOL, like I said comeback when you win your first cotton.

Commuter students who live with mommy and daddy or come from a foreign country and stay in one of the dowms usually do not lead to long time faithful alumni who contribute/donate to the University. 40K students and 200K alumni and the UH admin can only build a 40K seat stadium. I think that says everything you need to know. The UH admin can't count on their students/alumni to show up unless a Big 12 Texas school comes to town or UH is trying to be a BCS buster. Despite pine box, we are still the 4th winningest program in the Big 12.

I bet Dr. Khator would love to be as irrelevant as Tech. LOL

You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

Bebe sweetened our pot to keep us from taking our REAL and ACTUAL offer from the SEC and stay in his conference. We gave it a shot till the BS made the money not worth it.

a REAL parasite is a wormy little school that cries to politicians to get themselves into a conference that doesn't want them. A parasite uses politics to try and tie themselves to their big brother because no one wants them and they are terrified of finally being put in the conference they always deserved to be in.

(03-24-2013 08:10 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

You are few and far between at Commuter U. Like I said, if the UH admin thought they could count on their students/alumni, UH would be building a bigger stadium. If UH mattered, they would be able to pay and hang onto the coaches that gave them a little success in cusa. I bet a majority of your fans would rather have King Kliff on the sidelines than tony levine

We have been more successful, gone to more bowl games in the Big 12 than commuter u has done in cusa. Talk about mediocrity.

(03-24-2013 08:17 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:10 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

You are few and far between at Commuter U. Like I said, if the UH admin thought they could count on their students/alumni, UH would be building a bigger stadium. If UH mattered, they would be able to pay and hang onto the coaches that gave them a little success in cusa. I bet a majority of your fans would rather have King Kliff on the sidelines than tony levine

We have been more successful, gone to more bowl games in the Big 12 than commuter u has done in cusa. Talk about mediocrity.

Conference championships? heck conference championship appearance?
0 in both, that says volumes about the 'success' you claim Tech has. Yes, UH does not matter because we are in a kiddie conference, yet we are still able to get more attention than Tech. Tech is in a big boy conference, yet Tech is still irrelevant and a bottom feeder.....That says volumes.

Wrong again t-shirt. The 5 left behind schools offered up Colorado/Nebraska exit money in order to keep UT/OU in the conference. Aggy thought they were elite and demanded some of that exit money. Elite only in the minds of aggy and the only school to actually take exit money. OU and UT didn't need or want the 20 million $ bribe.


That is the true definition of a parasite. Take something you didn't earn and then bail a year later because you couldn't handle UT and the LHN.

(03-24-2013 08:21 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:17 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:10 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

You are few and far between at Commuter U. Like I said, if the UH admin thought they could count on their students/alumni, UH would be building a bigger stadium. If UH mattered, they would be able to pay and hang onto the coaches that gave them a little success in cusa. I bet a majority of your fans would rather have King Kliff on the sidelines than tony levine

We have been more successful, gone to more bowl games in the Big 12 than commuter u has done in cusa. Talk about mediocrity.

Conference championships? heck conference championship appearance?
0 in both, that says volumes about the 'success' you claim Tech has. Yes, UH does not matter because we are in a kiddie conference, yet we are still able to get more attention than Tech. Tech is in a big boy conference, yet Tech is still irrelevant and a bottom feeder.....That says volumes.

How many times prior to the 2009 Tech-UH game did UH and their commuter fans sell out their High School stadium?

In the 2000's, only OU/UT represented the South in the Big 12 championship game yet we had the 3rd best record that decade. We got rid of pine box. King Kliff will right the ship and get us back to Mike Leach or better levels. Meanwhile UH and their 27K fans will watch other commuter U's ( not directed to ECU or their 50K fans that show up to watch ECU instead of the opponent) in the new no name conference.

Spin all you like but you just can't change the truth and it kills you!

The Big 12 BEGGED us to stay by offering us more money because in the mind of the SEC, the best conference in CFB, they wanted A&M and were ready to give us a stand alone offer.

Unlike you, we were wanted for who we are, not because they were forced to take us to get another school they wanted more, not because we cried to politicians to force us into a conference that didn't want us.

That's the difference.

We are wanted.

Tech is not.

Nothing you say can change that. All you can do is spin like a cheap top and try to convince fans of other schools that you arent the pathetic parasite you really are.

(03-24-2013 08:26 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:21 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:17 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:10 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

You are few and far between at Commuter U. Like I said, if the UH admin thought they could count on their students/alumni, UH would be building a bigger stadium. If UH mattered, they would be able to pay and hang onto the coaches that gave them a little success in cusa. I bet a majority of your fans would rather have King Kliff on the sidelines than tony levine

We have been more successful, gone to more bowl games in the Big 12 than commuter u has done in cusa. Talk about mediocrity.

Conference championships? heck conference championship appearance?
0 in both, that says volumes about the 'success' you claim Tech has. Yes, UH does not matter because we are in a kiddie conference, yet we are still able to get more attention than Tech. Tech is in a big boy conference, yet Tech is still irrelevant and a bottom feeder.....That says volumes.

How many times prior to the 2009 Tech-UH game did UH and their commuter fans sell out their High School stadium?

In the 2000's, only OU/UT represented the South in the Big 12 championship game yet we had the 3rd best record that decade. We got rid of pine box. King Kliff will right the ship and get us back to Mike Leach or better levels. Meanwhile UH and their 27K fans will watch other commuter U's ( not directed to ECU or their 50K fans that show up to watch ECU instead of the opponent) in the new no name conference.

We don't get millions of dollars in TV deal, to be building new stadium whenever the heck we want. Ofcourse, you will brag about all the athletic money that you freeload of UT. And how many Non-AQ schools draw above 40k? barely any. When your schedule if full of heavyweights it is not hard to raise attendance. Play UAB's and Marshall's of the world and then you will know how hard it to draw when you play no-name teams.

And swing it any way you want Houston will always be a better market than Lubbock, all we need is a 40k and Tech is screwed.

(03-24-2013 08:11 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Bebe sweetened our pot to keep us from taking our REAL and ACTUAL offer from the SEC and stay in his conference. We gave it a shot till the BS made the money not worth it.

A&M said they were committed and changed their mind about it. Even Texag's Billy Liucci was quoted as saying the higher ups knew the worst of the LHN in 2010 and didn't see it as likely to be allowed and it ended up not being allowed. Then A&M set moving targets to throw a hissy fit in public about stuff they already knew about and never expected the league or ncaa to allow anyway to justify the move. This was purely to damage the Big 12 in public to justify a move and weaken the other schools.

So it isn't like the scenario changed, A&M just took forever to decide and double backed on their agreement to stay and take extra money to do so.

Also Loftin was quoted as making the decision "a year ago" in September 2011 which means A&M was lying through their teeth about being committed that entire time.

So was A&M less than honest? Yes.

Should they do what is best for their school? Yes.

With that said A&M didn't come close to doing what was best for their school in anything resembling an honest manner. It was done in a very misleading and intentionally damaging manner. So yes the raider is correct that A&M lied and did so profusely.

He however is wrong that A&M didn't have a real offer or that they didn't "deserve" the arrangement. Being one of 3 schools to warrant such a league offer on their own made them "deserve" the arrangement. They are giving up something to stay that they would be able to get without help.

(03-24-2013 08:33 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Spin all you like but you just can't change the truth and it kills you!

The Big 12 BEGGED us to stay by offering us more money because in the mind of the SEC, the best conference in CFB, they wanted A&M and were ready to give us a stand alone offer.

Unlike you, we were wanted for who we are, not because they were forced to take us to get another school they wanted more, not because we cried to politicians to force us into a conference that didn't want us.

That's the difference.

We are wanted.

Tech is not.

Nothing you say can change that. All you can do is spin like a cheap top and try to convince fans of other schools that you arent the pathetic parasite you really are.

The Big 12 didn't beg aggy to stay. Aggy stole exit money that was intended to keep UT and OU happy. Aggy took ransom bribe money and acted like they were elite like OU and UT. Parasite.

The PAC will eventually have to expand to keep up with the Jones and where are they going to find viable, worthy candidates? Boise, New Mexico, San Diego?

The only worthy candidates reside in the Central Time Zone. Houston, SMU, Rice etc do not add value and do not increase the value of their TV deal.

SSDD

(03-24-2013 08:35 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:26 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:21 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:17 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:10 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

You are few and far between at Commuter U. Like I said, if the UH admin thought they could count on their students/alumni, UH would be building a bigger stadium. If UH mattered, they would be able to pay and hang onto the coaches that gave them a little success in cusa. I bet a majority of your fans would rather have King Kliff on the sidelines than tony levine

We have been more successful, gone to more bowl games in the Big 12 than commuter u has done in cusa. Talk about mediocrity.

Conference championships? heck conference championship appearance?
0 in both, that says volumes about the 'success' you claim Tech has. Yes, UH does not matter because we are in a kiddie conference, yet we are still able to get more attention than Tech. Tech is in a big boy conference, yet Tech is still irrelevant and a bottom feeder.....That says volumes.

How many times prior to the 2009 Tech-UH game did UH and their commuter fans sell out their High School stadium?

In the 2000's, only OU/UT represented the South in the Big 12 championship game yet we had the 3rd best record that decade. We got rid of pine box. King Kliff will right the ship and get us back to Mike Leach or better levels. Meanwhile UH and their 27K fans will watch other commuter U's ( not directed to ECU or their 50K fans that show up to watch ECU instead of the opponent) in the new no name conference.

We don't get millions of dollars in TV deal, to be building new stadium whenever the heck we want. Ofcourse, you will brag about all the athletic money that you freeload of UT. And how many Non-AQ schools draw above 40k? barely any. When your schedule if full of heavyweights it is not hard to raise attendance. Play UAB's and Marshall's of the world and then you will know how hard it to draw when you play no-name teams.

And swing it any way you want Houston will always be a better market than Lubbock, all we need is a 40k and Tech is screwed.

The next time UH averages 40K will be the 1st since 1977.

For the record, playing like minded opponents, we blow UH out of the water.

Quote: Tech vs UH vs
Texas 53,957 31,784
Houston 53,461
Tx State 51,792 32,163
SMU 51,409 22,703
TCU 51,271 20,422
Okla St 50,924 28,260
SHSU 50,171 14,880
Rice 48,124 25,731 30,722@ Rel
Baylor 47,249
UT-El Paso 46,745 23,960
N. Texas 42,123 25,476
Tulsa 24,818
Tech 32,114

What you are leaving out is that when Bebe asked for each school to say wether they were committed or not, Loftin very carefully and SPECIFICALLY told Bebe that A&M was committed to the conference but ONLY as its membership and deals stood at that moment (while NU and CU were still members) and that if anything changed that we did not like, our commitment was null and void.

Funny how that very specific warning to Bebe that if we became unhappy we would leave is always overlooked by those who want to feel better by saying we werent honest.

OMG! He did what he said he would do! The lying bastard!

(03-24-2013 08:49 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  What you are leaving out is that when Bebe asked for each school to say wether they were committed or not, he very carefully and SPECIFICALLY told Bebe that A&M was committed to the conference but ONLY as its membership and deals stood at that moment (while NU and CU were still members) and that if anything changed that we did not like, our commitment was null and void.

Funny how that very specific warning is always overlooked by those who want to feel better by saying we were t honest.

Why bother with him?

(03-24-2013 08:35 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:26 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:21 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:17 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(03-24-2013 08:10 PM)AirRaid Wrote:  You are a complete moron....I am originally from a foreign country and I love my school. And No, Dr. Khator does not like seeing failure, unlike Tech.

And what you say does not say everything. A clown like you is just a jaded hater because other programs are way more successful than Tech.

I see a program, that is has a re-affirmed its commitment to athletics unlike previous admins. But, Tech admins just keep accepting mediocrity....pretty typical.

You are few and far between at Commuter U. Like I said, if the UH admin thought they could count on their students/alumni, UH would be building a bigger stadium. If UH mattered, they would be able to pay and hang onto the coaches that gave them a little success in cusa. I bet a majority of your fans would rather have King Kliff on the sidelines than tony levine

We have been more successful, gone to more bowl games in the Big 12 than commuter u has done in cusa. Talk about mediocrity.

Conference championships? heck conference championship appearance?
0 in both, that says volumes about the 'success' you claim Tech has. Yes, UH does not matter because we are in a kiddie conference, yet we are still able to get more attention than Tech. Tech is in a big boy conference, yet Tech is still irrelevant and a bottom feeder.....That says volumes.

How many times prior to the 2009 Tech-UH game did UH and their commuter fans sell out their High School stadium?

In the 2000's, only OU/UT represented the South in the Big 12 championship game yet we had the 3rd best record that decade. We got rid of pine box. King Kliff will right the ship and get us back to Mike Leach or better levels. Meanwhile UH and their 27K fans will watch other commuter U's ( not directed to ECU or their 50K fans that show up to watch ECU instead of the opponent) in the new no name conference.

We don't get millions of dollars in TV deal, to be building new stadium whenever the heck we want. Ofcourse, you will brag about all the athletic money that you freeload of UT. And how many Non-AQ schools draw above 40k? barely any. When your schedule if full of heavyweights it is not hard to raise attendance. Play UAB's and Marshall's of the world and then you will know how hard it to draw when you play no-name teams.

And swing it any way you want Houston will always be a better market than Lubbock, all we need is a 40k and Tech is screwed.

The bigger drawing teams usually are in big leagues, not because they are in big leagues but rather because big leagues tend to invite big draws.

Look UH would probably spike 5-6k more per year in a big league than they would where they are. It helps but playing in CUSA wouldn't drop Tech below 50k per game or Baylor below 37k per game assuming success levels stayed strong. Putting BYU in the Big 12 isn't going to change them from a 62k attendance team into a 92k attendance team. Putting UT in CUSA wouldn't cause them to draw less than 50k.

Attendance *usually* is correlated to market draws. Not always but it's a good indicator in that teams that can reliably get 35-40k at least are usually ok draws and the 80-100k draws are pretty stable in fan support tv wise. The leagues with the strongest tv value survive and happen to have the biggest gameday draws. The leagues that rebuild tend to invite the larger draws from the leagues below them.

You are saying that league membership makes someone a big draw. I 100% disagree. It can HELP but a school's draw is more due to the school itself and it's success/lack thereof than mere league membership.