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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:28 PM)tkgrrett Wrote: Because we understand probability and the probability of a McD AA being a gamechanger is higher than a non-McD AA. There is still, however, a very real chance that any given McD AA will not end up a superstar. See UNLV, UK, UNC, UCLA, etc.
Agreed, so, chances are that the more McD's AA's, the better your team will be, and they should win more games. So, one would expect that if the team has 60% of it starting line-up MCD"s AA's, then we can at least make it to the Sweet 16. So, why all of the clamoring over 1 win in the big dance?
My point is that many of the fans on here have expectations are unreasonably low for this team. The players and coaches have higher expectations that most fans on here (JJ and Adonis have gone on record as saying their goal is to be in Atlanta in April, and Pastner has stated he expects to win game S in the tourney). If they see the fans agree with those expectations, then perhaps they can have more confidence.
So why limit our own expectations as fans? If they don't make it, then we can still support them and say it was a good season, but we and they know they have a good a chance as most to be in the Final Four. I do not see how that is unreasonable.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:29 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: Actually it is bc of playing in CUSA is the reason we will not win. Jeff Goodman is right and we have not proven anything. agree with the Blackman
What a surprise.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:09 PM)Collegiate Black Man Wrote: So why are some people thinking that 1 win in this year's tourney is somehow a "Great Season"? Name the other teams in the tourney with that many McD's AA's starting who are happy with 1 win in the toruney? Name one?
What Happened to the high expectations for this team? I for one think they can beat MSU and have a great game against Duke in the Sweet 16. But, it will come down to preparation, in game coaching, and how we exploit the other teams weaknesses and play to our strengths. This game is definintely on Pastner. I think he can pull it out, but will he????
Trouble maker. If you don't want to support Memphis go find your own team to support!
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:33 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:31 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:29 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: Actually it is bc of playing in CUSA is the reason we will not win. Jeff Goodman is right and we have not proven anything. agree with the Blackman
Typical TigerJay post.
??????? It is truth. We play in CUSA and MSU the Big 10. They have been tested and will exploit us with Nix. It isn't rocket science.
Then how the hell did we make it to the Elite 8 in 2006 and 2007 or the national finals in 2008 or the Sweet 16 in 2009? You and Goodman can go stick it.
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cbhstiger
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:40 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:33 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:31 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:29 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: Actually it is bc of playing in CUSA is the reason we will not win. Jeff Goodman is right and we have not proven anything. agree with the Blackman
Typical TigerJay post.
??????? It is truth. We play in CUSA and MSU the Big 10. They have been tested and will exploit us with Nix. It isn't rocket science.
Then how the hell did we make it to the Elite 8 in 2006 and 2007 or the national finals in 2008 or the Sweet 16 in 2009? You and Goodman can go stick it.
Did you not know CUSA was much better those years? /sarcasm
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:40 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:33 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:31 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:29 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: Actually it is bc of playing in CUSA is the reason we will not win. Jeff Goodman is right and we have not proven anything. agree with the Blackman
Typical TigerJay post.
??????? It is truth. We play in CUSA and MSU the Big 10. They have been tested and will exploit us with Nix. It isn't rocket science.
Then how the hell did we make it to the Elite 8 in 2006 and 2007 or the national finals in 2008 or the Sweet 16 in 2009? You and Goodman can go stick it.
If you take the time to rationalize what Goodman or CollegiateBlackman is saying they are valid. I am ok with knowing we will not beat MSU bc of Nix and Payne. I just wanted Pastner to gain so respect and confidence.
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Collegiate Black Man
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:29 PM)mairving Wrote: Keith Appling, Branden Dawson and Gary Harris are the 3 MCD All-Americans on Michigan State's team.
Great point. Ask any of their fans if they would call their season "great" if they lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA's?
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03-22-2013 04:45 PM |
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
How has this latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger not been banned?
This is the same clown that said a few years ago that our players would throw a game for "bling." Now he is on here already declaring the game against the Spurties lost because Jeff Goodman said so. This clown is allowed to troll on here, the Big East board and the C-USA board. I don't get it.
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03-22-2013 04:45 PM |
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
Haha I forgot about sPazTiger
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03-22-2013 04:46 PM |
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:44 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:40 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:33 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:31 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:29 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: Actually it is bc of playing in CUSA is the reason we will not win. Jeff Goodman is right and we have not proven anything. agree with the Blackman
Typical TigerJay post.
??????? It is truth. We play in CUSA and MSU the Big 10. They have been tested and will exploit us with Nix. It isn't rocket science.
Then how the hell did we make it to the Elite 8 in 2006 and 2007 or the national finals in 2008 or the Sweet 16 in 2009? You and Goodman can go stick it.
If you take the time to rationalize what Goodman or CollegiateBlackman is saying they are valid. I am ok with knowing we will not beat MSU bc of Nix and Payne. I just wanted Pastner to gain so respect and confidence.
Typical of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger. Already declaring a Memphis game in advance a defeat.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:45 PM)Collegiate Black Man Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:29 PM)mairving Wrote: Keith Appling, Branden Dawson and Gary Harris are the 3 MCD All-Americans on Michigan State's team.
Great point. Ask any of their fans if they would call their season "great" if they lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA's?
I'm confused, just because we have 3 Mcd. AA means what exactly? We're entitled to elite 8's every year? That's not how things work.
Is it an upset to lose to a higher seed who has just as much talent? If not then how can you complain or be upset with losing to them?
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:45 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: How has this latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger not been banned?
This is the same clown that said a few years ago that our players would throw a game for "bling." Now he is on here already declaring the game against the Spurties lost because Jeff Goodman said so. This clown is allowed to troll on here, the Big East board and the C-USA board. I don't get it.
It is against all known rules of political correctness and herd mentality to ban anyone who calls himself a collegiate black man---whether he is or not is irrelevant.
Such are freely allowed to post with impunity while enjoying total immunity.
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03-22-2013 04:49 PM |
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King_WWW08
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:45 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: How has this latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger not been banned?
This is the same clown that said a few years ago that our players would throw a game for "bling." Now he is on here already declaring the game against the Spurties lost because Jeff Goodman said so. This clown is allowed to troll on here, the Big East board and the C-USA board. I don't get it.
It is my opinion. I said I am ok with losing if that happens. This year was about respect and Pastner got it. I don't even know who you are talking about either. It is a nice scape goat though to use banned posters to get someone to get banned. Grow up.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:37 PM)Collegiate Black Man Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:28 PM)tkgrrett Wrote: Because we understand probability and the probability of a McD AA being a gamechanger is higher than a non-McD AA. There is still, however, a very real chance that any given McD AA will not end up a superstar. See UNLV, UK, UNC, UCLA, etc.
Agreed, so, chances are that the more McD's AA's, the better your team will be, and they should win more games. So, one would expect that if the team has 60% of it starting line-up MCD"s AA's, then we can at least make it to the Sweet 16. So, why all of the clamoring over 1 win in the big dance?
My point is that many of the fans on here have expectations are unreasonably low for this team. The players and coaches have higher expectations that most fans on here (JJ and Adonis have gone on record as saying their goal is to be in Atlanta in April, and Pastner has stated he expects to win gameS in the tourney). If they see the fans agree with those expectations, then perhaps they can have more confidence.
So why limit our own expectations as fans? If they don't make it, then we can still support them and say it was a good season, but we and they know they have a good a chance as most to be in the Final Four. I do not see how that is unreasonable.
What? I don't think you understand what you are agreeing with. If you took a random selection of players and put together a team then yes, you would have a higher probability of winning more games with more all-americans. Higher probability based on a random selection, however, never turns into a guarantee of sweet 16 based. Once they have played the probabilities break down because you have more data that breaks down the importance of AA status
...why am i even bothering, this is just dumb.
(This post was last modified: 03-22-2013 04:51 PM by tkgrrett.)
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:49 PM)dan o Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:45 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: How has this latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger not been banned?
This is the same clown that said a few years ago that our players would throw a game for "bling." Now he is on here already declaring the game against the Spurties lost because Jeff Goodman said so. This clown is allowed to troll on here, the Big East board and the C-USA board. I don't get it.
It is against all known rules of political correctness and herd mentality to ban anyone who calls himself a collegiate black man---whether he is or not is irrelevant.
Such are freely allowed to post with impunity while enjoying total immunity.
I'm talking about the latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger. That is King_WWW08.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:45 PM)Collegiate Black Man Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:29 PM)mairving Wrote: Keith Appling, Branden Dawson and Gary Harris are the 3 MCD All-Americans on Michigan State's team.
Great point. Ask any of their fans if they would call their season "great" if they lost in the 2nd round of the NCAA's?
Completely different situation. Don't pretend it's not.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:49 PM)King_WWW08 Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:45 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: How has this latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger not been banned?
This is the same clown that said a few years ago that our players would throw a game for "bling." Now he is on here already declaring the game against the Spurties lost because Jeff Goodman said so. This clown is allowed to troll on here, the Big East board and the C-USA board. I don't get it.
It is my opinion. I said I am ok with losing if that happens. This year was about respect and Pastner got it. I don't even know who you are talking about either. It is a nice scape goat though to use banned posters to get someone to get banned. Grow up.
You are already declaring a Memphis game a loss before it has even happened. That is typical of an internet troll that has said in the past that Memphis players would throw games for "bling" and that thinks Memphis should drop its football program because you are a fan of Miami.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
Already, the creation of a new monkey is underway. SMH.
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RE: We have 3 McDonald's All-Americans in the Starting Line up...
(03-22-2013 04:50 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:49 PM)dan o Wrote: (03-22-2013 04:45 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: How has this latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger not been banned?
This is the same clown that said a few years ago that our players would throw a game for "bling." Now he is on here already declaring the game against the Spurties lost because Jeff Goodman said so. This clown is allowed to troll on here, the Big East board and the C-USA board. I don't get it.
It is against all known rules of political correctness and herd mentality to ban anyone who calls himself a collegiate black man---whether he is or not is irrelevant.
Such are freely allowed to post with impunity while enjoying total immunity.
I'm talking about the latest alias of TigerJay/DRose23/PazTiger. That is King_WWW08.
I am on rivals dude. UofMemphis can tell you that.
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