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Memphis-St. Mary's game question
I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
He's in his forth season. He's still learning and still makes mistakes. His game plan for this game was FANTASTIC. Our guys just didn't hit free throws at the end.
Pastner isn't perfect but is a much better x's and o's coach than he's given credit for. 31-4 and 19-0 in conference speaks to this.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
Pastner is growing leaps and bounds every year as a coach. Still, he is young and makes mistakes. I'll deal as long as there is improvement. So far so good.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
Valid question I think.
I have heard some coaches state that calling timeouts allows you to plan, but it also allows the other coach to counter. These are usually situations that have been covered in practice situations.
I have also heard coaches say this; If your athletes are superior never slow the game down. Let the horses run.
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stanman505
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 08:11 PM)transitt Wrote: He's in his forth season. He's still learning and still makes mistakes. His game plan for this game was FANTASTIC. Our guys just didn't hit free throws at the end.
Pastner isn't perfect but is a much better x's and o's coach than he's given credit for. 31-4 and 19-0 in conference speaks to this.
I agree that Pastner is very good at game planning. I was critical of him a few years ago but I do think he is getting better. I just thought he would have learned from the CUSA championship game. I am glad you guys won and will be rooting for you in the next round.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
That's kind of amazing that you can ask that question without every other word being showing "*******" on the post. I've seen that question asked on the Memphis board and half the post ends up looking like "**** ***" etc. I didn't realize that you could ask a question about Pastner without half of it being bleeped out.....especially on up to 24 hours after we finish a game.
Now....seriously, we should have done that. We hadn't had trouble getting the ball in all game that I remember, but the safe thing to do in that situation would have been a TO and draw up a safe inbounds process.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
Hey, he finally got a NCAA win. It wasn't pretty, but it was another step for a young coach. I'm excited to see them play Sparty.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 11:29 PM)NothingButKnight Wrote: Hey, he finally got a NCAA win. It wasn't pretty, but it was another step for a young coach. I'm excited to see them play Sparty.
An ugly win looks awful pretty in the left hand column, especially when it allows you to advance a round. I just wish some of our own fans could realize that.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
I hate I missed the game...was working...but was checking it constantly on my phone. I got MEM in the elite 8.
Pastner is coming into his own...so are the players. We all make mistakes and it's always easy to sit in the recliner and figure it out later.
Talk about a pressure cooker....head coach of MEM basketball is how it's defined at dictionary.com.
He jumped a major hurdle today...they don't ask how, they only ask how many.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 08:41 PM)egrizzard Wrote: (03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
Valid question I think.
I have heard some coaches state that calling timeouts allows you to plan, but it also allows the other coach to counter. These are usually situations that have been covered in practice situations.
I have also heard coaches say this; If your athletes are superior never slow the game down. Let the horses run.
Memphis has some of the very best athletes in the country, plus they share the ball better than any team we played against this year. It seems like those advantages would favor letting them play as opposed to calling a timeout and risking having the opposing coach scheme around them. Now, if he doesn't call that timeout against Michigan State, I could see being upset.
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transitt
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
Not only did he get his tourney win, it came vs a ranked team. St Mary's was 25th in the this week's coaches poll
(This post was last modified: 03-22-2013 09:41 AM by transitt.)
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03-22-2013 09:40 AM |
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 08:41 PM)egrizzard Wrote: (03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
Valid question I think.
I have heard some coaches state that calling timeouts allows you to plan, but it also allows the other coach to counter. These are usually situations that have been covered in practice situations.
I have also heard coaches say this; If your athletes are superior never slow the game down. Let the horses run.
Many coaches never call timeouts in this situation. I wouldn't either. The question is why didn't the player inbounding the ball call a timeout when it was obvious that a good outlet was not there.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-21-2013 11:45 PM)Freshy Wrote: (03-21-2013 08:41 PM)egrizzard Wrote: (03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
Valid question I think.
I have heard some coaches state that calling timeouts allows you to plan, but it also allows the other coach to counter. These are usually situations that have been covered in practice situations.
I have also heard coaches say this; If your athletes are superior never slow the game down. Let the horses run.
Memphis has some of the very best athletes in the country, plus they share the ball better than any team we played against this year. It seems like those advantages would favor letting them play as opposed to calling a timeout and risking having the opposing coach scheme around them. Now, if he doesn't call that timeout against Michigan State, I could see being upset.
I think that sharing the ball is the most valuable asset this team has, at times even more valuable than having great athletes.
If you're open, you're getting the ball regardless of who you are. It makes the defense play real defense on everyone, which frees up all 5 positions to contribute.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-22-2013 10:19 AM)oldtiger Wrote: (03-21-2013 11:45 PM)Freshy Wrote: (03-21-2013 08:41 PM)egrizzard Wrote: (03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
Valid question I think.
I have heard some coaches state that calling timeouts allows you to plan, but it also allows the other coach to counter. These are usually situations that have been covered in practice situations.
I have also heard coaches say this; If your athletes are superior never slow the game down. Let the horses run.
Memphis has some of the very best athletes in the country, plus they share the ball better than any team we played against this year. It seems like those advantages would favor letting them play as opposed to calling a timeout and risking having the opposing coach scheme around them. Now, if he doesn't call that timeout against Michigan State, I could see being upset.
I think that sharing the ball is the most valuable asset this team has, at times even more valuable than having great athletes.
If you're open, you're getting the ball regardless of who you are. It makes the defense play real defense on everyone, which frees up all 5 positions to contribute.
I totally agree and posted something very similar in our championship game thread (my analysis of what it would take to beat you guys). Shooting the open jay just makes it easier. If I want to win at anything, I want easy/easier/easiest.
IMO, it is your greatest asset and a testament to the philosophy of Pastner.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-22-2013 10:19 AM)oldtiger Wrote: Memphis has some of the very best athletes in the country, plus they share the ball better than any team we played against this year.
And if they reduce the shot clock like it has been proposed again.. (and again and again).. I'm gonna start losing interest in college basketball as well because it'll become a run/shoot/back up the court for defense rather than the team game it is at the moment.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-22-2013 10:54 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote: (03-22-2013 10:19 AM)oldtiger Wrote: Memphis has some of the very best athletes in the country, plus they share the ball better than any team we played against this year.
And if they reduce the shot clock like it has been proposed again.. (and again and again).. I'm gonna start losing interest in college basketball as well because it'll become a run/shoot/back up the court for defense rather than the team game it is at the moment.
College basketball is perfect just the way it is. Coaching, playing ability (or lack thereof), scheming, drama, ref influence, etc...it is E...all the above. Spot on sir! It is why I go and watch. I love it.
I hated Dean Smith's four corners as much as I love the college rules of today.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
(03-22-2013 09:44 AM)ballhog Wrote: (03-21-2013 08:41 PM)egrizzard Wrote: (03-21-2013 07:52 PM)stanman505 Wrote: I want to ask the Memphis fans a question. Why didn't Pastner call timeout after the three pointer went in? They could have drawn up an inbounds play to get the ball to a good free throw shooter and even substituted to make sure the best free throw shooters were in the game. It reminded me of the CUSA championship game when he could have called a timeout and didn't. Has the local media questioned him about it. It is stuff like that IMO that is keeping Pastner from being an even better coach.
Valid question I think.
I have heard some coaches state that calling timeouts allows you to plan, but it also allows the other coach to counter. These are usually situations that have been covered in practice situations.
I have also heard coaches say this; If your athletes are superior never slow the game down. Let the horses run.
Many coaches never call timeouts in this situation. I wouldn't either. The question is why didn't the player inbounding the ball call a timeout when it was obvious that a good outlet was not there.
I agree, I think the player should have called the timeout and not force the issue
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
There were reports today that he said he was trying to call time out.
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RE: Memphis-St. Mary's game question
I picked Michigan State over Memphis in my bracket, then felt like an idiot for picking against pretty much the only team I am going for in the tournament so early.
Luckily my bracket is already shot before the game is played so I won't have any conflict of interest on who I am rooting for. GO TIGERS!
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