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RE: Big East vs ACC vs Atlantic 10
(03-18-2013 07:44 AM)WNCOrange Wrote: (03-18-2013 07:15 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote: (03-17-2013 10:19 PM)hoops22 Wrote: A rather amusing thing you read around here, is how fans from teams changing conferences, somehow feel the new conference gets credit for accomplishments achieved while still in their old conference. Of course this is nonsense. The truth of the matter is, the ACC website claims no credit for any accomplishments of Syracuse or Louisville, or anyone else, but still claims credit for whatever Maryland achieves, even though they will leave soon. The same is true of the Big East. The reality is, the rosters of these future ACC teams were recruited to play against Big East schools, against Big East players, in Big East cities, in Big East arenas, and in Big East markets. Their achievements are the Big East's. Its also interesting that the coaches of the four future ACC members Jim Boeheim, Rick Pitino, Jamie Dixon, and Mike Brey, while being good soldiers, have made no secret of the fact they wish the Big East had remained as it was, and they continued coaching in what has been the greatest basketball conference in NCAA history. None showed any enthusiasm for joining the ACC. Whether those four basketball teams remain elite, or fade into total irrelevance, as happened to Boston College, remains to be seen. Time will tell, although any drop is not likely to be as steep as what befell BC.
Which brings me to my next point. Many ACC apologists are delusional about the ACC's stature, when it has clearly been masked by two superpowers among a league of midgets, although one of them occasionally pokes their head above quicksand as Miami did this year. Over the past three years the Big East has had a total of 28 bids to the tournament, while the ACC has had 13, barely nosing out the Atlantic 10 which had 12. The last year the ACC matched the Big East in bids was 2009 when they both had 7, however the Big East nearly doubled the ACC's win total that year, 17 to 9. The recent history is pretty clear who the vastly superior league is, and my guess is it will be borne out again this upcoming tournament.
And finally, I'm sure there will be outraged response from the ACC newbies, claiming that once they're on board all that will change. Maybe it will. But the only thing we can judge for certain is what's happened in the past, no one knows the future. I know I wouldn't be surprised that if after the B1G finishes scavenging through the ACC these next couple of years, that what's left of the ACC has little resemblence to what's expected today. In any case, whatever it's form, I highly doubt the ACC will ever come close to replicating the success of the Big East.
Something which is very clear is that a school like Syracuse, that sits 250 miles away form New York City where most of its alums are and where most of its students hale from, is limiting the access of that alumni and fan base to its games by this move to the ACC. This is exactly what happened to Boston College.
I'm not saying that this conference move is a bad idea or that anyone else wouldn't have done it in a New York minute. It's good for business reasons. In fact, it's a great move on the business side of the ledger.
But one fact is incontrovertible. This is a terrible move for the fan base. And that's what we are: fans. NY based Syracuse now have the option of driving 250 miles to Syracuse, 200 miles to a road game in Boston, or 350 miles to a choice of Pittsburgh or Chalottesville. Take your pick.
As difficult as this is for a Saturday football game, it ain't happenin' for a weekday night game in either sport. And how about a 500+ mile trip to North Carolina for the ACC tournament? That should be gangs of fun.
The issue here isn't whether Syracuse or anyone else should have made. the move. The point is that realignment sux. It's bad for the fan base and in the long run that can't be good for college athletics. And I think that's the point of your post.
I would respectfully disagree. There are so many ex-New Yorkers living in in the south now. With the Carolina's in particular being home to many of them. At least from a hoops standpoint our fans have shown the ability to show in mass at games anywhere from NYC to Georgia. Ask State fans what they thought about our fans showing up to their arena last year.
Now I will admit that in football it remains to be seen how we will travel in the ACC but from a hoops standpoint it really isn't even an argument.
That's great for team support and for the fans who live in the South, but it doesn't do a thing for the fans in the tri-state area, which is where the bulk of the fan base is.
I was in The City recently and saw a taxi with a sign afixed to its roof, advertising "Syracuse, New York's home town team". Try continuing that marketing campaign when the team never sets foot in the city or even anywhere in the try-state area. It's the fast track to irrelevance.
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