(03-19-2013 09:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:45 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  This is what happens when you go recruit all 1 and dones, and 2 of them get hurt, then you have no depth. If and when this happens 2-3 more times to schools who recruit all 1 and dones and it screws them out of an NCAA selection, you will then see those coaches call for a 2 or even 3 year rule.

the know-all media has been crying and can't wait for a.m. show tomorrow...this may have been the straw breaker for the push to a new rule...there is no doubt in my mind, the agenda driven drool dribblers will be all over this one....

Rule needs to be scrapped or extended. One year is asinine.

Unless your Tony Stark.

This call in show is why I am proud to be a USM fan.

The over the top reaction is comical.

Someone just came with "shame to family and state"

I can't wait to hear the Ole Miss football crying down the road after their recruiting class this year.

It's like going to the EP board and listening to some of our baseball posters.

Maybe at some point, you realize the recruits just aren't that good.

(03-17-2013 10:21 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 05:40 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  And their board is off.....
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you think they were unhappy after the NCAA selection show? that was bliss and euphoria compared to what happened after the NIT selection show.

and THAT was nirvana compared to the poo flinging and a$$ ramming that's going on now. anyone got that suicide hotline number handy?

(03-19-2013 09:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:45 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  This is what happens when you go recruit all 1 and dones, and 2 of them get hurt, then you have no depth. If and when this happens 2-3 more times to schools who recruit all 1 and dones and it screws them out of an NCAA selection, you will then see those coaches call for a 2 or even 3 year rule.

the know-all media has been crying and can't wait for a.m. show tomorrow...this may have been the straw breaker for the push to a new rule...there is no doubt in my mind, the agenda driven drool dribblers will be all over this one....

Rule needs to be scrapped or extended. One year is asinine.

Both college basketball and the NBA would be better served if there was a three year rule like in football. I mean think about it most people agree that the 80s-mid 90s were the golden age of college basketball. I mean think of all the big names that were playing 3-4 years of college basketball. There are no established college legends now. If you stay all four there is something wrong with you now. It is a joke. There are no Jordans, Ewings, no fab fives, and no Phi Slamma Jammas. There is no Bird Magic rivalry born. I mean seriously 10 years from now no one will be talking about that ugly unibrow kid from UK last year.

Then you look at the NBA. The overall product is killed because these kids that leave are not ready to play in the NBA. Not at a high level. Sure you have Lebron, Kobe, and KG but just think if how fun college basketball would have been if Kobe and LeBron spent 3 years in college.

(03-19-2013 10:49 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 10:21 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 05:40 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  And their board is off.....
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you think they were unhappy after the NCAA selection show? that was bliss and euphoria compared to what happened after the NIT selection show.

and THAT was nirvana compared to the poo flinging and a$$ ramming that's going on now. anyone got that suicide hotline number handy?

1-800-amy winehouse

(03-19-2013 10:57 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 09:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 08:45 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  This is what happens when you go recruit all 1 and dones, and 2 of them get hurt, then you have no depth. If and when this happens 2-3 more times to schools who recruit all 1 and dones and it screws them out of an NCAA selection, you will then see those coaches call for a 2 or even 3 year rule.

the know-all media has been crying and can't wait for a.m. show tomorrow...this may have been the straw breaker for the push to a new rule...there is no doubt in my mind, the agenda driven drool dribblers will be all over this one....

Rule needs to be scrapped or extended. One year is asinine.

Both college basketball and the NBA would be better served if there was a three year rule like in football. I mean think about it most people agree that the 80s-mid 90s were the golden age of college basketball. I mean think of all the big names that were playing 3-4 years of college basketball. There are no established college legends now. If you stay all four there is something wrong with you now. It is a joke. There are no Jordans, Ewings, no fab fives, and no Phi Slamma Jammas. There is no Bird Magic rivalry born. I mean seriously 10 years from now no one will be talking about that ugly unibrow kid from UK last year.

Then you look at the NBA. The overall product is killed because these kids that leave are not ready to play in the NBA. Not at a high level. Sure you have Lebron, Kobe, and KG but just think if how fun college basketball would have been if Kobe and LeBron spent 3 years in college.

I am so happy to not have to abide by the restrictions that are set by today's bs....really? So, one should risk injury and not get paid? That is basically what you are saying. That the earning power of individual talent should be jeopardized to benefit the conglomerate. okay, ed.....

If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

No MLB player goes straight to the big leagues. Everyone spends at least a year in the minors and thats if you are just so exceptional they can't keep you out. The avg time spent in the minors for those who do get a call up is 3-4 years.

Only a few make it straight to NHL, like Crosby or Malkin. The avg hockey player plays 5-7 years in JR and Minor leagues before ever getting a call up. And most that do get a call up split time from minors to NHL.

I think there should be a 2 year rule atleast, if you sign a LOI. It would prevent a flooding of the college market with all these greedy people. There would be more people like Brandon Jennings and go play a year or 2 overseas then.

If they aren't going to do anything like that then I have a better proposal for the NCAA. Those who are 1 and dones either come in as a Walk On or pay their scholarship within a year.

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

One should be able to. But if one goes to college, one should have to stay a minimum of three years. The main purpose of college is education. If one goes, one should at least pretend to be getting an education.

(03-20-2013 02:30 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

One should be able to. But if one goes to college, one should have to stay a minimum of three years. The main purpose of college is education. If one goes, one should at least pretend to be getting an education.

Dang, Funslinger, I better check mysef and see if I have any fever. I actually agree with you on something. However, you really must not start a sentence with "But", or the grammar police might write you a ticket.

(03-20-2013 07:36 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 02:30 AM)Funslinger Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

One should be able to. But if one goes to college, one should have to stay a minimum of three years. The main purpose of college is education. If one goes, one should at least pretend to be getting an education.

Dang, Funslinger, I better check mysef and see if I have any fever. I actually agree with you on something. However, you really must not start a sentence with "But", or the grammar police might write you a ticket.

That was funny, but the only requirement to be a pro athlete is perception of or have talent. I don't understand why a rational person (in this country at least) would deny someone their RIGHT to improve THEIR financial status. Age is irrelevant. Going to college is irrelevant. All that matters is their perceived value. Using the most extreme metaphor, this is like slavery.

If necessary, they can always go back to get their education.

Good ol' coach Cal throws his team under the bus after the loss. Gotta love him.

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.

(03-20-2013 08:13 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  Age is irrelevant.

On something yes....but on other things (laws, regulations, requirements, etc....), no.

There are AGE RESTRICTIONS littered all over life's landscape...and while maybe you disagree with some or even all restrictions (heck, let 5 year olds get driver licenses if they want and/or eliminate all child labor laws, let 11 year olds join the Army, etc...), because afterall, you are limiting their future earnings but scores of "age restrictions".

(03-20-2013 08:47 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.

So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.

I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao

(03-20-2013 09:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 08:47 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.

So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.

I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao

It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.

(03-20-2013 10:21 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 09:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 08:47 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.

So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.

I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao

It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.

The train thought of the big business....love it.

So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey

There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.

(03-19-2013 11:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 10:49 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 10:21 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 05:40 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  And their board is off.....
Kentucky Forum Link

you think they were unhappy after the NCAA selection show? that was bliss and euphoria compared to what happened after the NIT selection show.

and THAT was nirvana compared to the poo flinging and a$$ ramming that's going on now. anyone got that suicide hotline number handy?

1-800-amy winehouse

I never understood how they could be so certain that she was dead. she couldn't have looked very different.

(03-20-2013 10:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 10:21 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 09:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 08:47 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-19-2013 11:42 PM)Poliicious Wrote:  If you can go pro in baseball & hockey after HS why not hoops? Hypocrisy

The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.

So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.

I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao

It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.

The train thought of the big business....love it.

So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey

There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.

The one year is pointless, one and done kids don't care about their school. Do it like baseball, you don't have to go, but if you go you have to stay three years.

(03-20-2013 10:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 10:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 10:21 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 09:40 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 08:47 AM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  The whole reason is that there isn't really a minor league for basketball. They let college basketball be their minors rather than the D-League because it doesn't cost them anything compared to a in depth minor league system like baseball has. Plus it gives them more chances to evaluate players against tougher competition than found in high school.

So this has what to do with denying the athlete his opportunity....?? If the athlete is able and the next tier is willing, I still haven't seen a logical reason to deny this.

I told you guys they would tear up the airwaves this morning with this issue and the KY loss. Hell, the loss even got first row headline status on the ESPeNis.com first page....lmfao

It's not really about the athlete, its about the business of basketball. If you let high school players go directly to the NBA, college basketball would lose all it's high end talent like Nerlin Noel and all the Kentucky guys. Even if they are around for one year, the NCAA benefits from the hype of these super prospects because they help make the games more attractive to the casual viewer and they can make more money off TV. Big names are big draws, always have been and always will be. Money is always the reason in our world.

The train thought of the big business....love it.

So Kobe, LeBron, etc..have ruined the business of college basketball... okey dokey

There are 3000+ collegiate basketball players and only 60 NBA draftees every year with roughly half being sub senior draftees. ....sounds like a bonecrushing business killing opportunity to me.

The one year is pointless, one and done kids don't care about their school. Do it like baseball, you don't have to go, but if you go you have to stay three years.

Agreed 100%