(03-15-2013 09:16 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  Again it really doesn't matter to us. We are going to a conference that has never had it regular season champ left out. Perception is everything...

You do understand that next year the members will hold exactly two outright CUSA titles amongst themselves?

That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP.

Six, if you include MT.

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Losing 6 seniors will have more to do with MT's demise next year than the conference competition in CUSA. Should be interesting....or not.

As to Big Brother, is UT or Vandy moving to CUSA?

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Tennessee is not coming to CUSA.

PS Good luck to you in the MAC. While I am not usually a big fan of schools making. moves out of desperation, I think you will be a good fit.

(03-16-2013 10:47 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Tennessee is not coming to CUSA.

PS Good luck to you in the MAC. While I am not usually a big fan of schools making. moves out of desperation, I think you will be a good fit.

CUSA is in for some interesting times now that they have invited Mediocre Tennessee State University. Sorry, couldn't pass it up.

(03-16-2013 10:44 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Losing 6 seniors will have more to do with MT's demise next year than the conference competition in CUSA. Should be interesting....or not.

As to Big Brother, is UT or Vandy moving to CUSA?

We have a lot of non-senior depth, good recruiting class, and a NC State transfer that becomes eligible. Not too worried about next year. It's the year after that we'll see if Kermit can sustain the success or not.

(03-16-2013 10:58 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:44 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Losing 6 seniors will have more to do with MT's demise next year than the conference competition in CUSA. Should be interesting....or not.

As to Big Brother, is UT or Vandy moving to CUSA?

We have a lot of non-senior depth, good recruiting class, and a NC State transfer that becomes eligible. Not too worried about next year. It's the year after that we'll see if Kermit can sustain the success or not.

i looked at your roster and was shocked that middle had become troy north as far as a roster.

i believe i only saw a few that were actually recruited to middle out of high school. i remember sulton as a freshman. i thought he was going to be a stud but i don't think he ever fulfilled his po. he wasn't bad by any means but i had higher expectations after watching him as a freshman.

everyone gets some jucos and some txfers. i expect us to pick up at least one juco and we already have 2 txfers on board but we have many players that started here as 18 year olds. it's fun to watch them develop.

kermie has gone into full blown juco mode. i imagine he was feeling heat a couple years ago and busted his arse bringing in as many jucos as he could to save his job.

he never really has to leave the boro....just share a subscription with maestri to jucojunction.com.

he has obviously done well with it the last 2 years....but i like to watch a kid grow in your program. just personal preference.

i counted 6 juniors on the roster i believe so the falloff shouldn't be as bad as some are predicting. i'm sure he'll sign about 5 more jucos to replace the seniors that are leaving.

Yeah, he has definitely gone juco route more, but for whatever reason he's found better players in the JC's than he's been able to find in high school and like Hunter it's hard to turn down a JC all america if he wants to come.

Sulton has been playing with an injury most of this season. If he stays healthy he could finally have a breakout year next season since he's going to get more minutes.

(03-16-2013 10:47 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Tennessee is not coming to CUSA.

PS Good luck to you in the MAC. While I am not usually a big fan of schools making. moves out of desperation, I think you will be a good fit.

You're either stoned or stupid if you think WKU is going to the MAC.

I've never been a fan of the tourneys where every team qualifies. It completely diminishes the regular season.

If it were me, I'd make the tourney more of a playoff among the best teams in the conference -- top 4 or even top 2. Wanna preserve the number of games and associated revenues? Then go with a best of three. Even better, play the games on campus at the home of the highest seed.

(03-16-2013 11:41 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:47 AM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 10:27 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(03-16-2013 09:10 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  That's pretty short sighted. How many Top 100 opponents did we have in the league this year? Zero.

The new CUSA had five Top 100 this season....Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech, Charlotte, East Carolina and UTEP. And that doesn't include UAB and ODU which are historically Top 100 programs.

I don't have any delusions of grandeur that any of us are going to replace what Memphis brings to the table, but that league is going to have a good chance to be deeper and more well rounded than any of the previous iterations of C-USA over the past few years. And if Western ends up in the league I think you easily have a top 10 basketball league that can be as good or better than the A10.

What's adorable is that you think you'll be able to maintain that degree of competitiveness in that conference. Especially when your big brother gets an invite soon.

Tennessee is not coming to CUSA.

PS Good luck to you in the MAC. While I am not usually a big fan of schools making. moves out of desperation, I think you will be a good fit.

You're either stoned or stupid if you think WKU is going to the MAC.

That could have be funny. The mystery is killing me.
Here is why I think the MAC is a legit option.
1. There is a VERY legitimate chance that CUSA doesn't make a move before july even if Tulsa leaves. If Tulsa doesn't leave there is zero chance of a move before July. If that's the case then the former SBC members will have the ability to block WKU though a vote. Not saying that would happen, but rumor is that post-Selig WKU doesn't play nice in the sandbox and that new CUSA members don't want them. My source for this could be inaccurate but he was spot on through the rest of the realignment talk.
2. If a CUSA invite doesn't come then the MAC looks a lot better. There are lot of things that will make WKU make that move. First thing is when everybody is moving like they are the last thing anybody wants to do is look stagnant. So don't rule out a move for the sake of moving. Second, and this is a guess, but I imagine the powers that be(blue hairs that stroke 5 or 6 digit checks) will always view WKU as a Basketball school. Hell, KY is a basketball state. Don't be surprised if they put a ton of pressure on your admin once they get a good look at what SBC 2.0 basketball to get them anywhere but here, if they haven't already. Heck, I bet there is large percentage of people in that group that would drop FB and go to the valley if it were up to them.

Look, this isn't rival smack. IF CUSA adds another team I think WKU is the logical pick, but the next time logic is used in realignment will be the first time. That's not to say it won't happen. The situation is very fluid and WKU still has a good shot. I am just saying that the few people that act like it is a forgone conclusion, to steal from pikap "aren't paying attention" and that there are legit WKU talks with the MAC. People like Massengill89 can think I'm 'stupid or stoned'. I will somehow try to sleep at night, but if I were a WKU fan I would study up on my Mac trivia at least as much as do my CUSA. Everyday that goes by without an invite the odds of a future in CUSA go down and odds of one in the MAC go up. After July 1st the odds get worse.

the mac is a better conference than the sunbelt or coosa but i bet you can't find one western fan that wants in the mac.

even though we don't 'play well with others' according to your high placed sources some of you folks are gonna be shocked when invites go out.

At the moment WKU is told the C-USA is not interested will be the moment WKU pursues the MAC.

(03-17-2013 12:27 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  the mac is a better conference than the sunbelt or coosa but i bet you can't find one western fan that wants in the mac.

even though we don't 'play well with others' according to your high placed sources some of you folks are gonna be shocked when invites go out.

Not going to be shocked no matter how it turns out. Sounds like you have moved into the camp that is ready to bet the trailer on an invite. Too many moving parts for me.

(03-17-2013 12:52 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(03-17-2013 12:27 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  the mac is a better conference than the sunbelt or coosa but i bet you can't find one western fan that wants in the mac.

even though we don't 'play well with others' according to your high placed sources some of you folks are gonna be shocked when invites go out.

Not going to be shocked no matter how it turns out. Sounds like you have moved into the camp that is ready to bet the trailer on an invite. Too many moving parts for me.

you have no idea what camp i've moved into amigo.

just remember you heard it from me. not that i really said anything...lol.

If I were a bettin' man, and thankfully I'm not, I'd waiger that should Tulsa leave, Arkansas State gets a CUSA invite. That would keep schools in the divisions they want to be in plus Arkansas State is only the second FBS in Arkansas so there's tremendous potential market to tap into. Should they decide to add 3 teams, I think it'll be ASU, GSU, and UL to keep things balanced in divisional play. WKU brings nothing to CUSA except ancient history basketball success. No market, no historical success in FBS football. Tiny football stadium. Add in our "directional" name and that's enough. Anyone who doesn't think there's been lots of maneuvering and backstage discussions going on among a variety of schools doesn't have a clue.

(03-17-2013 01:16 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  If I were a bettin' man, and thankfully I'm not, I'd waiger that should Tulsa leave, Arkansas State gets a CUSA invite. That would keep schools in the divisions they want to be in plus Arkansas State is only the second FBS in Arkansas so there's tremendous potential market to tap into. Should they decide to add 3 teams, I think it'll be ASU, GSU, and UL to keep things balanced in divisional play. WKU brings nothing to CUSA except ancient history basketball success. No market, no historical success in FBS football. Tiny football stadium. Add in our "directional" name and that's enough. Anyone who doesn't think there's been lots of maneuvering and backstage discussions going on among a variety of schools doesn't have a clue.

... Do you even read conference realignment discussions, beat writers, or analysts?