(03-13-2013 11:51 PM)Kco17 Wrote: (03-13-2013 11:40 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: What is wrong with Lance's head? Recent twitter posts:
"UC averaged 11,000-12,000 fans for big east games, hard to divide fan base but give me time.
If UC goes to BCS Bowl, I can divide fan base if UC does have invite to ACC or Big 12.
Tubberville played the game, coached the game, but I have Butler math, a UK grill cover and a loud mouth.
I enjoy porn, but not over Butler math, or Carmel High School. Jeff George was awesome, so was Adam Ant.
Tune in Friday, Topics Will Mick leave UC for Murray State. Why I would date Lenay Kay
Miami of Ohio alums, Consider becoming fans of your school and go to basketball games and football games. Big Ben is gone.
Butler math tells me to divide the UC fanbase for ratings. "
Is he high tonight? Or does he think that this is how respectable people act? He's acting like he's still in high school rather than a serious reporter/host.
Thats a fake twitter account.
He's a fake with a fake name so maybe he said it up to look fake.
Seriously, it is odd though because some of what he is saying though is straight out of my emails to him where I made fun of his Butler Logic. Either that or others are slamming him for the same thing. Here's some of our back and forth below (thread starts from the bottom up). Probably boring to most but since someone asked me to post here it is. I don't profess to be world class at debate but he's on par with a chimp and a keyboard. He also resorts to the "Look over there a flying squirrel" school of distraction and changing the topic. Anyway, enjoy.
<tjmurphy24@yahoo.com> wrote:
YOU brought up booing not me. ive no idea what you think a smattering of boos on one possession means. As you finally concede it isn't indicative of a divided fanbase which is what you've been harping on. Second I don't condone booing college kids and SAID THAT in a prior email which you obviously don't read. I put the booing in context..it was one instance in an entire home season and it was more of an exasperated reaction to our offense just standing there wasting shot clock down 7 with minutes ticking by. Stick your uk comparisons somewhere. Now the debate is which programs fans are better? Way to change course.
I was at the UC game were you? The smattering of boos on one possession were drowned by a great home crowd which was on its feet the last few minutes and cheered wildly in overtime. Mick thanked the crowd but i guess you didnt hear that either. As usual you're inventing facts. Must be hard for you to have to debate when you can't just cut it off like you can with your callers. I'll make it easy for you though. Im done with this. Stir on!!!
<lance@lancemcalister.com> wrote:
I'm really trying here.
Why are you now connecting infighting to the booing? They are two
different issues.
If you believe it is ok for the home fans to boo the home team, on
Senior Day, then we need to have a bigger discussion.
Maybe I'll just refer you to Mick on that conversation. UC people
would direct you to Senior Day in Lexington, down 7 late, fans were on
their feet to help rally the Wildcats. Do with that what you want, I
don't care, I just know what UC people did with it...it started with
shaking their heads.
We are not making progress here. But again, I do appreciate the
emails. I have failed to connect on the idea that you are going after
me.
I'm fighting for UC and Mick. Hard to believe you don't want to
fight for Mick and UC as much as I do. I get enough crap from the
haters. It is sad I have to turn around and hear it from someone that
seems like they support the program. It makes no sense. You are
yelling at me and accusing me of a making up an issue. You listen. You
hear the calls. You read and see the criticism. You choose to cover
your ears and hum. I refuse to ignore it.
I will fight it. When a
caller talks about Mick needing to have the passion of Huggs, I will
fight it. When a caller says UC needs to repair the relationship with
fans, I fight it. You fight me. We are on the same side. I'm tiring of
debating you on the issue of standing up for Mick and UC.
Enjoy the game today.
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Thomas Murphy <tjmurphy24@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes it serves no purpose because
you clearly skipped the logic class at Butler.
> How is one smattering of boos at one point of a game evidence of a divided fan base? Still can't answer that can you lance. Because it is not. It was a bunch of fans frustrated in the moment with their team.
> So there is nothing "to come down on." I'm taking issue with you because you choose to blow a single act of booing completely out of proportion. Can't spell it out any more clearly.
> I attended games all year and never heard one boo other than when we couldn't score on one possession of a game vs an awful USF team. Where was that divided fan base at all those other games? Answer: not booing.
>
> You get it you just refuse to acknowledge the point being made. That's sad for a guy who makes a living dialoguing with fans.
>
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 12, 2013, at 11:00 PM, Lance McAlister <lance@lancemcalister.com> wrote:
>
>> so again.........rather than come down on the act....come down on me?
>> See the pattern. This no longer serves much of a purpose.
>> But I thank you for the debate.
>> Take care.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Thomas Murphy <tjmurphy24@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> One last point. The booing??? you're now trying to draw conclusions of a divided fan based upon a single incident of booing that occurred on one possession Saturday. I hate any acts of booing college kids by the way but I was at the game and the booing was one ONE possession when UC had been playing godawful and won a turnover only to then stand on offense for 25 seconds of the shot clock without a single pass or anyone even moving on offense. It was a frustrated reaction by the fans and wasn't directed at mick or at any one player. In fact I heard worse booing when Huggs was there. specifically booing when satterfield got the ball late in several games because he had missed some last second shots and the fans wanted Logan to have the ball. I guess that meant the fans were seriously divided against Huggs. I've heard x fans boo to at cintas during a particular bad stretch this year. I guess those divided XU fans haven't gotten over Sean miller or skip or bob staak LOL.
>>>
>>> Lastly, there are plenty of fans who are a bit disappointed with how this year's team has faired in conference play and how it had regressed a bit offensively. They love this team for their typical hard nosed UC defense mick has instilled and their great heart, but they moan and groan at the bad threes and lack of offensive movement. That is what good fans do. They ask questions, debate tactics, get disappointed when their team struggles. UK fans dissect wins as much as losses for crying out loud. But It doesn't mean those UC fans want Huggs back or hate mick. They're just fans who have up and down emotions based on their team on any given game.
>>> The majority of fans are just that, fans that support the programs, the current coaches and are more forward thinking about the team, the tourney and conference future.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Lance McAlister <lance@lancemcalister.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> who do you think is calling?
>>>> who do you think is booing Saturday
>>>> you act as if this is a creation
>>>> at no point have I said it is everyone....been clear on that.
>>>> I've enjoyed this
>>>> I appreciate the debate
>>>> Gotta run
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Thomas Murphy <tjmurphy24@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> My head isn't in the sand. Your head is so hard and ego so insufferable that you keep avoiding the point. I'm at the hoops and football games. Have been for over 20 yrs. how about you? I don't see divided fans. Fans at the games support UC. they wouldnt be spending 1000s a yr if they hated mick or UC. I saw over 11,000 of them on saturday who got treated to a hard basketball game to watch.
>>>>> I see a few unhappy dipshits who will never be happy with uc who call talk radio and who you choose to pretend are large in numbers when they arent so you have something to talk about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway just keep stirring it up while you sit there with your "hey I'm just the messenger, I love UC" nonsense. The only people you're fooling are the unemployed idiots who call your show and probably think pro wrestling is real. It's like the weasely kid in grade school who tries to stir up a fight between friends and then stands back smirking and saying "hey why are these two guys fighting!?!?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd enjoy a debate with you if you could actually acknowledge or address a point instead of resorting to some straw man argument and continually ignoring mine...which again is that radio hosts who continually pour alcohol and start picking at an old wound that's mostly healed shouldnt wonder why there is a negative reaction to it or people responding to it. It is called irony.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Lance McAlister <lance@lancemcalister.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I give up
>>>>>> you keep saying created..
>>>>>> Is your head in the sand?
>>>>>> Thanks for the exchange. Have a great day.
>>>>>> Again...you continue to fight me....and continue to make the point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Thomas Murphy <tjmurphy24@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> The response of someone with a weak argument: calling people names or "a piece of work." Seriously that's your response to your created controversy being called out?
>>>>>>> Can't figure out if you are just too dumb to figure it out or purposely avoiding the point. Either way you won't debate the facts or my point...you're not defending UC by exaggerating a divide that doesn't exist as a real issue and by constantly harping on so called old Huggs fans. You're hurting UC with such BS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Lance McAlister <lance@lancemcalister.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dude, you are a piece of work
>>>>>>>>
Again...push back....for the guy that is backing Mick, Tommy and the program.
>>>>>>>> I'll go back to original point for you...and made by UC....infighting.[b]
>>>>>>>> And yet you are carrying it right along. Arguing with me, in my defense of UC.
>>>>>>>> That is rich.
>>>>>>>> Have a great day.
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Was I hallucinating or was there a Lance McAllister thread that disappeared
