That's what they want Americans to believe. Evil needs to hide to prosper.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

They've been sending out trial balloons all over the country seeing what they can get away with.

Then when the outrage is too much to overcome, they apologize and say "oops, we didnt mean it!"

It's pathetic and disgusting, but it's not stupidity, it's absolutely on purpose.

The real problem is the liberal media refuses to press them on it and just takes their excuse at face value and leaves it alone.

And people wonder why this country is f.cked.

(02-21-2013 02:56 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  They knew exactly what they were doing.
They've been sending out trial balloons all over the country seeing what they can get away with.
Then when the outrage is too much to overcome, they apologize and say "oops, we didn't mean it!"
It's pathetic and disgusting, but it's not stupidity, it's absolutely on purpose.
The real problem is the liberal media refuses to press them on it and just takes their excuse at face value and leaves it alone.
And people wonder why this country is f.cked.

Spot on.

Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.

new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

(03-03-2013 02:57 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

The bill will be amended. Non-story at this point.

Get back on focus about how the bill only limits law abiding citizens, and does nothing to stop criminals.

(03-03-2013 03:00 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 02:57 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

The bill will be amended. Non-story at this point.

Get back on focus about how the bill only limits law abiding citizens, and does nothing to stop criminals.

Every story, no matter whether the bill has a chance of passing or not is incredibly important. The public must know that these attempts are being made to take away their second amendment rights.

Every bill only limits law abiding citizens. There is no bill put forth that does anything to prevent criminals from using firearms of any type illegally. There also isn't any kind of bill that would address individuals that may commit violent acts due to a mental illness or any other instability. All of these laws are designed to limit citizens ability to protect themselves in the name of the collective good.

(03-03-2013 03:00 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 02:57 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

The bill will be amended. Non-story at this point.

Get back on focus about how the bill only limits law abiding citizens, and does nothing to stop criminals.

This is the stupidest argument ever. You are basically arguing for no laws period. Think man!

(03-04-2013 09:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 03:00 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 02:57 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

The bill will be amended. Non-story at this point.

Get back on focus about how the bill only limits law abiding citizens, and does nothing to stop criminals.

This is the stupidest argument ever. You are basically arguing for no laws period. Think man!

It's really really funny and stupid that you think that's what he is arguing lol

I mean really.....good stuff!


Oh you were being serious, you actually think he's making that statement? Yeah, sorry, I gotta go, something just came up.

Update on CO gun control laws.

Quote:Late Monday, the Colorado Senate pushed ahead some of the controversial gun control measures currently before that state’s legislature. After impassioned debate from both sides, the state Senate advanced:

A bill limiting the capacity of gun magazines to a maximum of 15 rounds.

A total ban on gun and ammunition ownership for people accused of domestic violence.

Expanded background checks on private gun transfers.

Reinstatement of a fee for background checks, to be paid by the would-be gun purchasers.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/...advancing/

I have an issue with with the second one. What does "total ban on guns and ammo ownership" mean? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'd be fine with restricting new gun purchases while there is a pending domestic violence case against an individual, but not a total gun and ammo ownership ban. Temporarily surrendering handguns would be as far as I see a legal measure going in such a case, and probably only in a threat of violence or act of violence was committed with a handgun.
Slapping one's wife across the face, while wrong, doesn't mean that an individual is going to shoot her in the next argument.

(03-12-2013 08:14 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Update on CO gun control laws.

Quote:Late Monday, the Colorado Senate pushed ahead some of the controversial gun control measures currently before that state’s legislature. After impassioned debate from both sides, the state Senate advanced:

A bill limiting the capacity of gun magazines to a maximum of 15 rounds.

A total ban on gun and ammunition ownership for people accused of domestic violence.

Expanded background checks on private gun transfers.

Reinstatement of a fee for background checks, to be paid by the would-be gun purchasers.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/...advancing/

I have an issue with with the second one. What does "total ban on guns and ammo ownership" mean? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'd be fine with restricting new gun purchases while there is a pending domestic violence case against an individual, but not a total gun and ammo ownership ban. Temporarily surrendering handguns would be as far as I see a legal measure going in such a case, and probably only in a threat of violence or act of violence was committed with a handgun.
Slapping one's wife across the face, while wrong, doesn't mean that an individual is going to shoot her in the next argument.

Also, what does it mean to be accused? Could I accuse you of domestic violence if you incorrectly answer the following question: Have you stopped beating your wife?

(03-04-2013 09:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 03:00 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 02:57 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

The bill will be amended. Non-story at this point.

Get back on focus about how the bill only limits law abiding citizens, and does nothing to stop criminals.

This is the stupidest argument ever. You are basically arguing for no laws period. Think man!

Isn't that the libertarian way? THat is pretty much their utopia and what they are pushing for.

(03-12-2013 08:14 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Update on CO gun control laws.

Quote:Late Monday, the Colorado Senate pushed ahead some of the controversial gun control measures currently before that state’s legislature. After impassioned debate from both sides, the state Senate advanced:

A bill limiting the capacity of gun magazines to a maximum of 15 rounds.

A total ban on gun and ammunition ownership for people accused of domestic violence.

Expanded background checks on private gun transfers.

Reinstatement of a fee for background checks, to be paid by the would-be gun purchasers.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/...advancing/

I have an issue with with the second one. What does "total ban on guns and ammo ownership" mean? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'd be fine with restricting new gun purchases while there is a pending domestic violence case against an individual, but not a total gun and ammo ownership ban. Temporarily surrendering handguns would be as far as I see a legal measure going in such a case, and probably only in a threat of violence or act of violence was committed with a handgun.
Slapping one's wife across the face, while wrong, doesn't mean that an individual is going to shoot her in the next argument.

What exactly is "bad" about anything in the quotes part of your post? You are against selling guns to those accused of domestic violence? Guess we just learned a little something about you.

(03-12-2013 11:04 AM)ummechengr Wrote:  

(03-12-2013 08:14 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Update on CO gun control laws.

Quote:Late Monday, the Colorado Senate pushed ahead some of the controversial gun control measures currently before that state’s legislature. After impassioned debate from both sides, the state Senate advanced:

A bill limiting the capacity of gun magazines to a maximum of 15 rounds.

A total ban on gun and ammunition ownership for people accused of domestic violence.

Expanded background checks on private gun transfers.

Reinstatement of a fee for background checks, to be paid by the would-be gun purchasers.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/...advancing/

I have an issue with with the second one. What does "total ban on guns and ammo ownership" mean? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'd be fine with restricting new gun purchases while there is a pending domestic violence case against an individual, but not a total gun and ammo ownership ban. Temporarily surrendering handguns would be as far as I see a legal measure going in such a case, and probably only in a threat of violence or act of violence was committed with a handgun.
Slapping one's wife across the face, while wrong, doesn't mean that an individual is going to shoot her in the next argument.

Also, what does it mean to be accused? Could I accuse you of domestic violence if you incorrectly answer the following question: Have you stopped beating your wife?

Yeah, I suppose changing "accused" to "convicted" might be a little more appropriate.

(03-04-2013 09:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 03:00 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(03-03-2013 02:57 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  new Colorado bill info

“This is where shotgun shells go inside this tube here,” Brophy demonstrated. “You can screw this part off the top and screw on an extender to this tube to allow it to hold more than eight rounds. It is readily convertible, which by definition in the bill, makes the whole thing a high-capacity magazine…we just might not be able to legally purchase a pump shotgun or a semi-automatic shotgun.”

Now we're looking at the possibility of a standard pump or semi automatic shotgun being banned.

The bill will be amended. Non-story at this point.

Get back on focus about how the bill only limits law abiding citizens, and does nothing to stop criminals.

This is the stupidest argument ever. You are basically arguing for no laws period. Think man!

Is this more stupid than Boxer saying there is a shell limit for hunting ducks but its legal to hunt people with 50 round clips?