(03-09-2013 04:07 PM)chess Wrote:  It won't just be the AD's call with scheduling football games. Holland created the standard for out-of-conference scheduling at ECU. When your home conference schedule isn't that attractive, schedule local.

Imagine a NIU home (DeKalb) schedule with Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, and Iowa State. How many seaon tickets could you sell?

Ya that would be great...but I am not sure that I could afford my 6 season tickets with that schedule. I could go to 1 game with my family and a Nov night game on my own.

Realistically we just need 1 good home game every year.

JC did a great job and I wish him well.

Tuff business to uproot family every few years.

I dont know al that much about ECU but seems more like a lateral move than the step upwards I expected him to make. Timing is often everything. Godda wonder how much of his decision making is related to the unknowns ahead with lame duck Peters gone, Williams not far behind { I posted months ago I met him once in his office yrs ago with a freedom of information request and did not enjoy the experience. Lack of transparency comes to mind.} Next, Police Chief and other staff in exile. No telling what direction the BOT takes. NIU leadership seems to be swept into a strange doldrum and somewhat rudderless at the moment.

Thank the lord for the past few football seasons and the Orange bowl hoopla. Football has been the brightest spotlight on the university given all the other tragic events the past few yrs as well.

I want to find that lateral move where I make over 100K more.

(03-10-2013 01:58 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I want to find that lateral move where I make over 100K more.

100K is not chump change but i expected a move getting him substantially more , like did Doeren and Phillips.

PS: If anything ...all the recent shuffling simply reinforces the stepping stone that NIU and the MAC is within intercollegiate athletics......a reminder to set aside grandiose ambitions and realignments upward...for it has and will always be amount the money - or relative lack of it at NIU.

(03-10-2013 02:01 PM)niucyberdawg Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 01:58 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I want to find that lateral move where I make over 100K more.

100K is not chump change but i expected a move getting him substantially more , like did Doeren and Phillips.

Compher will be getting paid more than the ADs for these schools...
FSU
Rutgers
Cincinnati
Arizona St
Penn St
Ole Miss
Rutgers

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col...y/1968783/

(03-10-2013 10:11 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-09-2013 10:12 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(03-09-2013 11:20 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(03-09-2013 10:22 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(03-09-2013 10:00 AM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  I think your wrong there about Compher wanting BCS teams. Here's the thing, there are several issues working against you. Weather, stadium size, fan support, facilities. Forget Big Ten teams, most will never come play at our place, not the good ones, same for the B-XII. They aren't going to leave their massive stadiums to play at a 24,000 seat stadium in cold arse weather. Also, they'd rather play in Ohio, Texas, Penn., Fla. in more recruit rich areas.

ECU had the same issues back in the 1980's, the only two "BCS" teams that came to Dowdy-Ficklen were FSU and Miami, but that was after play at their place 3 times. Plus, we'd sell out our stadium 36,000 at the time. After the 1991 season 11-1, 9th in the nation that started to get better. But, it wasn't until 1998-1999 when we expanded to 43,000 that we could really start pulling in BCS teams regularly. Now at 50,000 we're larger than some BCS teams and can demand even home and homes on some BCS teams.

I vote to ban you. You speak too intelligently for a visitor, for die-hards to understand!
BTW, many points are right on, I have said for years.
Rome wasn't built in a day, especially by a school that less than 40 yrs ago was a teacher's school, had one bowl appearance in it's first quarter century plus at the highest level.
Want....need...reality. Words that get mixed up alot.
:clap2:

However, I was at the only ECU loss in 1991.

Yea, except for that one little flaw in the logic, that Toledo (along with other MAC schools) brings in good schools and their stadium isn't much bigger. Yes, neither NIU or UT is going to get Ohio State or Michigan there. But we should be able to get some good schools on the schedule. But that wasn't Compher's philosophy.

Has Toledo REALLY brought in BIG name schools? Colorado? Pittsburgh? Arizona? I mean KU had a good year when we scheduled them I believe. Better yes, but out of this world?Tell me ALL these "supposed" schools that would want to play at HS, not at SF for MORE money.

Also, can you think of any reasons why Toledo would attrack better?

My guess, guaranteed money, an easy in and out airport are pretty good selling points.Not fly into Rockford or O'Hare and freaking travel an hour+ to little ole DeKalb.Call Toledo whatever you want as to a shi%hole, it as 250k!

BTW, call SF whatever you want, it's $$$$$ in the pocket. If you really think a lesser school at home vs a SF game is better in the whole picture of NIU recruiting, $, exposure is better? I am against a SF game every season, but believe me, when you bring a recruit to SF, a local kid sees a team recruiting him playing on the field of his heroes, does wonders. You may not like it, fans on here may not like it, STH may not like it(and I think they get a raw deal on $ of SF tix) but the big picture is different. And if you look at the tope 32 attendances as posted in another thread, opponent means jack, unless they are rated. If you can predict which of the "limited" pickings of a Colorado, Pittsburgh, Kansas or the likes is rated, more power to you and other.

Yeah, NIU's home schedule this year is very subpar, but to just say as to MAC/NIU hosting attractive opponents as "well Toledo does it, so can we" is ridiculous. I may not know all the facts, but I know one thing....Compher and anyone in NIU AD know more than you, me and this board.

Just because someone says it, believes it doesn't make it true.

And to all for the "better scheduling" I woudl like specific names of schools that you think WILL come to DeKalb for 1-1, even 2-1.

Should be good.

Miami has repeatedly played Cincinnati, also Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Syracuse, and Northwestern at home in the past 9 years. Stadium capacity: 24K.

Kent State has played Iowa State, Boston College and Minnesota at home. Capacity: either 20K or 25K depending where you look.

Ohio has played Connecticut and Pittsburgh.

BGSU has played Boise (think that was at home) and Minnesota.

Ball State has played Indiana repeatedly, and Boston College at home.

Toledo has played Kansas, Purdue, Iowa State, Fresno, Colorado, Arizona, Wyoming, Boise, and Cincinnati.

NIU's entire schedule for that time frame is: SIU, Tennessee Tech, Indiana State, SIU, Indiana State, Navy, WIU, Idaho, North Dakota, Army, Cal Poly, Tennessee-Martin, Kansas. AND, we have no BCS games at home for the foreseeable future. Are you kidding me? We've had one of the worst home schedules in the entire MAC over the past decade. Easily.Please stop acting like this would be in place of a SF game. For the zillionth time, it wouldn't be.

Agree 100%. That is pathetic.

(03-10-2013 02:01 PM)niucyberdawg Wrote:  

(03-10-2013 01:58 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  I want to find that lateral move where I make over 100K more.

100K is not chump change but i expected a move getting him substantially more , like did Doeren and Phillips.

As did I. Which makes me think JC felt it was time to "get out of Dodge".

-Peters retiring. New President on the horizon.
-Just finished what may be a pinnacle for an NIU Athletic Team. The OB as great as it was, had to be an exhausting event on the heels of DD leaving.
- A Basketball program in shambles.
-The CPC fundraising put to bed and in full swing.

And finally, the recent Campus police story and investigations on campus.

There are opportunities every year. For JC, this may or may not be his dream job, but most certainly the timing was right.

I still feel the play here for scheduling, and it may be tougher in the near term without an AD, is to get an annual series going with Northwestern. They play an instate FCS every year and we should be working the phones to take that spot on their calendar. The proximity of the schools makes it fan friendly from a logistics standpoint and it would add strength to their OOC over the current FCS rotation they have been playing. If that proves unsuccessful then we should try to get a series going with someone like Minnesota. They just inked and one and one with New Mexico State and play at Miami (Oh) in a few years. If Northwestern balks then find a low level BCS team and start a regular series with them.

(03-10-2013 02:49 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  If Northwestern balks then find a low level BCS team and start a regular series with them.

When Vandy pulled out of the series with Northwestern, and before Western Michigan jumped on the opportunity, Phillips made an offer and Compher declined. For those of you who maintain contact with Phillips, ask him if it's true and he'll confirm it. .... Compher denied it and always will.
Both schools could benefit from the proximity of having fans able to make such an "away" game.
Getting a Huskie Stadium home date should be part of a reasonable deal (even 2-for-1) with an Indiana, Kentucky, Duke, Minnesota, or Colorado. Instead of a UT-Martin or Cal Poly, a home-and-away with a Tulane, New Mexico, Iowa State, Rice, Air Force, or SMU is worth a try and would give those NIU fans who travel a fresh locale to visit.
Maybe you bundle -- talk to Northwestern and see if it's possible to invite some school into a package between football plus men's and women's basketball or some other sport (for example: Year 1, NIU hosts Air Force in football, Northwestern goes to AF for football, NIU men's hoops goes to AF while women host AF, Northwestern women visit AF, NU men host AF; Year 2, Air Force hosts NIU in football, AF visits NU in football, the basketball teams revese the previous year. Suddenly you've got a variety of home and away dates for three sports).
Will forever maintain that the MAC Commissioner needs to be more aggressive as well. When West Virigina was left begging for a home for its men's soccer program, joining the MAC should have been granted only if WVU agreed over a 4-6 year span to do one home-and-away series with two MAC football teams, plus home-aways for a couple MAC men's and women's hoop programs. After all, WVU soccer suddenly had 1) an immediate path to NCAA qualification, 2) a chance to play a top 10 program home-and-away in Akron, 3) a chance to play a top 25 program home-and-away in NIU, and 4) seven league matches still leaving plenty of flexibility for non-conference dates. How many of the other possibilities for their soccer program could have offered what they got from the MAC.
Part of the negotiations for NIU to get a home for everything but football with the Mid-Continent was the demand that the baseball program be brought back to life.

To be honest, I think many would say our acting AD left for NC State a months back.

(03-10-2013 01:36 PM)niucyberdawg Wrote:  JC did a great job and I wish him well.

Tuff business to uproot family every few years.

I dont know al that much about ECU but seems more like a lateral move than the step upwards I expected him to make. Timing is often everything. Godda wonder how much of his decision making is related to the unknowns ahead with lame duck Peters gone, Williams not far behind { I posted months ago I met him once in his office yrs ago with a freedom of information request and did not enjoy the experience. Lack of transparency comes to mind.} Next, Police Chief and other staff in exile. No telling what direction the BOT takes. NIU leadership seems to be swept into a strange doldrum and somewhat rudderless at the moment.

Thank the lord for the past few football seasons and the Orange bowl hoopla. Football has been the brightest spotlight on the university given all the other tragic events the past few yrs as well.

+1

(03-11-2013 10:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  To be honest, I think many would say our acting AD left for NC State a months back.

that a pretty stupid comment. the only one who would say that is you

(03-11-2013 10:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  To be honest, I think many would say our acting AD left for NC State a months back.

You're wrong on both.

I know it's hard, but please try your best to stop quoting the village idiot. My ignore feature is rendered useless.

(03-11-2013 12:46 PM)armour248 Wrote:  I know it's hard, but please try your best to stop quoting the village idiot. My ignore feature is rendered useless.

My bad. I'll try to remember. But sometimes he just makes you want to

(03-11-2013 10:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  To be honest, I think many would say our acting AD left for NC State a months back.

Huh?

(03-11-2013 01:20 PM)7 Wrote:  

(03-11-2013 10:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  To be honest, I think many would say our acting AD left for NC State a months back.

Huh?

Coach Doeren did more AD duties than Compher, thats how sad it was.