(03-08-2013 01:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:36 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  so even w/ yours it's 37 w/ up to 25 non fcs games for sale plus a ccg. Not bad, better than what we had

it's better than what you had- but nothing to write home about. Nearly half of the exposures are CBS SN which isn't great by any stretch of the imagination. CBS just hasn't put much into that network- despite having some good properties like the A10 and MWC basketball for 2.

any espn time is better than the 0 we were getting.

(03-08-2013 01:42 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:38 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:31 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:03 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  MWC has sold 37 of its games the rest are for sale still. A12 has 65 games and they have none for sale.

Boise along w/ anyone else playing on espn or espn2 will be paid the bonus out of the bcs money paid to the leftout 5 from what I hear.

Let's be real here. Of the other games- roughly 35 games left- 10 are FCS dog games that aren't televised ever. So that's down already to 25. Some of these 25 are games like NM St @ New Mexico, UTSA @ New Mexico that won't get picked up either. Probably like 7-8 at minimum like that. So at best there's only 17-18 games left that anyone would even remotely want- and some of those are the poor conference games that generally no one is going to want. So it's WAY overstating how much volume the MWC has left available for sale- a lot of the volume left is very undesirable.

not overstating a thing, you're anti MWC so you look for ways to drum up sh*t? The rest are for sale, is that wrong? no. how many get bought I don't know, you don't know. Subtract the FCS games, you're not wrong on Fresno's end comcast doesn't show ours vs fcs. I don't know if the other schools like BSU are so into fb that their local affiliate will pick up the UT Martin game, I hear they will. Like Mongoose said Hawaii has a great tier 3 deal. Pretty sure unm will be able to sell the unm/nmsu game to their locals even if they suck.

Maybe commuter bob or someone will know this. Is it true that 86 mill is going to be split 5 ways among the left out conferences? that's 17.2 mill per conf. That's where the bonuses will be paid in the MWC. Plus whoever gets the BCS game out of the leftover 5 gets another 17 mill on top of that?

I'm just realistic- for a national tier 1/tier 2 contract- most if not all of those games you're talking about won't be picked up. It definitely won't be a big bump up in the money. It's a lot of tier 3 games. For some worth some- others not much at all.

The 86 mil is split 5 ways- and it does include the BCS game payment.

we do well w/ tier 3 b/c of comcast CA. Just no fcs games all others were on. Oregon was on P12 I don't get that ch.

86 split 5 ways but includes the BCS team so how much extra does that conf get of the payout? There's no incentive if we all get 17.2 either way. Does that conf get 34 and 52 split 4 ways or what?

I think like 9-10 million each of the 5 in a flat rate, then some money distributed based on performance, and then a lump sum for the G5 slot(want to say that was like 10 million or something like that from what I remember).

(03-08-2013 01:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:42 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:38 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:31 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:13 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Let's be real here. Of the other games- roughly 35 games left- 10 are FCS dog games that aren't televised ever. So that's down already to 25. Some of these 25 are games like NM St @ New Mexico, UTSA @ New Mexico that won't get picked up either. Probably like 7-8 at minimum like that. So at best there's only 17-18 games left that anyone would even remotely want- and some of those are the poor conference games that generally no one is going to want. So it's WAY overstating how much volume the MWC has left available for sale- a lot of the volume left is very undesirable.

not overstating a thing, you're anti MWC so you look for ways to drum up sh*t? The rest are for sale, is that wrong? no. how many get bought I don't know, you don't know. Subtract the FCS games, you're not wrong on Fresno's end comcast doesn't show ours vs fcs. I don't know if the other schools like BSU are so into fb that their local affiliate will pick up the UT Martin game, I hear they will. Like Mongoose said Hawaii has a great tier 3 deal. Pretty sure unm will be able to sell the unm/nmsu game to their locals even if they suck.

Maybe commuter bob or someone will know this. Is it true that 86 mill is going to be split 5 ways among the left out conferences? that's 17.2 mill per conf. That's where the bonuses will be paid in the MWC. Plus whoever gets the BCS game out of the leftover 5 gets another 17 mill on top of that?

I'm just realistic- for a national tier 1/tier 2 contract- most if not all of those games you're talking about won't be picked up. It definitely won't be a big bump up in the money. It's a lot of tier 3 games. For some worth some- others not much at all.

The 86 mil is split 5 ways- and it does include the BCS game payment.

we do well w/ tier 3 b/c of comcast CA. Just no fcs games all others were on. Oregon was on P12 I don't get that ch.

86 split 5 ways but includes the BCS team so how much extra does that conf get of the payout? There's no incentive if we all get 17.2 either way. Does that conf get 34 and 52 split 4 ways or what?

I think like 9-10 million each of the 5 in a flat rate, then some money distributed based on performance, and then a lump sum for the G5 slot(want to say that was like 10 million or something like that from what I remember).

so then the A12 is really making 3 mill per school w/ a solid shot at bcs bonus. MWC making 2.8 mill per school avg. w/ a solid shot at the bonus plus a ccg game and whatever change we get from local tier 3.

(03-08-2013 01:43 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:41 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:36 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  so even w/ yours it's 37 w/ up to 25 non fcs games for sale plus a ccg. Not bad, better than what we had

it's better than what you had- but nothing to write home about. Nearly half of the exposures are CBS SN which isn't great by any stretch of the imagination. CBS just hasn't put much into that network- despite having some good properties like the A10 and MWC basketball for 2.

any espn time is better than the 0 we were getting.

That is true. even last year was better with what 4-5 ESPN games. It'll be interesting to see when all is done the comparison in exposure between the A 12 and the MWC.

And boy- the gulf between those 2 and the other 3 is HUGE.

(03-08-2013 01:50 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:42 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:38 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:31 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  not overstating a thing, you're anti MWC so you look for ways to drum up sh*t? The rest are for sale, is that wrong? no. how many get bought I don't know, you don't know. Subtract the FCS games, you're not wrong on Fresno's end comcast doesn't show ours vs fcs. I don't know if the other schools like BSU are so into fb that their local affiliate will pick up the UT Martin game, I hear they will. Like Mongoose said Hawaii has a great tier 3 deal. Pretty sure unm will be able to sell the unm/nmsu game to their locals even if they suck.

Maybe commuter bob or someone will know this. Is it true that 86 mill is going to be split 5 ways among the left out conferences? that's 17.2 mill per conf. That's where the bonuses will be paid in the MWC. Plus whoever gets the BCS game out of the leftover 5 gets another 17 mill on top of that?

I'm just realistic- for a national tier 1/tier 2 contract- most if not all of those games you're talking about won't be picked up. It definitely won't be a big bump up in the money. It's a lot of tier 3 games. For some worth some- others not much at all.

The 86 mil is split 5 ways- and it does include the BCS game payment.

we do well w/ tier 3 b/c of comcast CA. Just no fcs games all others were on. Oregon was on P12 I don't get that ch.

86 split 5 ways but includes the BCS team so how much extra does that conf get of the payout? There's no incentive if we all get 17.2 either way. Does that conf get 34 and 52 split 4 ways or what?

I think like 9-10 million each of the 5 in a flat rate, then some money distributed based on performance, and then a lump sum for the G5 slot(want to say that was like 10 million or something like that from what I remember).

so then the A12 is really making 3 mill per school w/ a solid shot at bcs bonus. MWC making 2.8 mill per school avg. w/ a solid shot at the bonus plus a ccg game and whatever change we get from local tier 3.

don't think the CCG is going to fetch all that much, I think I saw that CBS owns the rights to that.

(03-08-2013 01:52 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:50 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:42 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:38 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I'm just realistic- for a national tier 1/tier 2 contract- most if not all of those games you're talking about won't be picked up. It definitely won't be a big bump up in the money. It's a lot of tier 3 games. For some worth some- others not much at all.

The 86 mil is split 5 ways- and it does include the BCS game payment.

we do well w/ tier 3 b/c of comcast CA. Just no fcs games all others were on. Oregon was on P12 I don't get that ch.

86 split 5 ways but includes the BCS team so how much extra does that conf get of the payout? There's no incentive if we all get 17.2 either way. Does that conf get 34 and 52 split 4 ways or what?

I think like 9-10 million each of the 5 in a flat rate, then some money distributed based on performance, and then a lump sum for the G5 slot(want to say that was like 10 million or something like that from what I remember).

so then the A12 is really making 3 mill per school w/ a solid shot at bcs bonus. MWC making 2.8 mill per school avg. w/ a solid shot at the bonus plus a ccg game and whatever change we get from local tier 3.

don't think the CCG is going to fetch all that much, I think I saw that CBS owns the rights to that.

you guys were saying 1 mill on here. if it's on cbss than no bonus if it's on espn than bonuses.

(03-08-2013 01:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(03-08-2013 01:42 AM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  86 split 5 ways but includes the BCS team so how much extra does that conf get of the payout? There's no incentive if we all get 17.2 either way. Does that conf get 34 and 52 split 4 ways or what?

I think like 9-10 million each of the 5 in a flat rate, then some money distributed based on performance, and then a lump sum for the G5 slot(want to say that was like 10 million or something like that from what I remember).

Did that ever get decided? Last I heard they had decided on splitting it into three "Tiers" (five equal shares, 5+4+3+2+1 on performance, and the Access Bowl) but hadn't worked out how much $$ went into each tier.

http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...nus-games/

Deal is now final. And by final, I mean no other national network will be getting in on the MWC.

CBS and ESPN will each get 22 football games (ESPN gets all Boise home games). CBS gets first 8, then ESPN & CBS alternate picks.

ESPN also gets more basketball games than first reported (31 vs 25), bringing the total of games between ESPN and CBS to 56.

The money is still about $18M/yr total according to Brett McMurphy and confirmed by Brian Murphy.


The MWC appearance bonus will NOT apply to games not controlled by the conference:

Quote:Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said the bonus will not apply to non-league-controlled games, such as Boise State’s 2013 road games at Washington and BYU. The Mountain West cannot sell those games.

Read more here: http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

CBS is negotiating the contract for the CCG, which should be about $1.25M/yr, based on previous reports.

All other games not televised by either CBS or ESPN (about 28-30 games) will be sold to regional partners or to digital partners.

(03-20-2013 03:32 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...nus-games/

Deal is now final. And by final, I mean no other national network will be getting in on the MWC.

CBS and ESPN will each get 22 football games (ESPN gets all Boise home games). CBS gets first 8, then ESPN & CBS alternate picks.

ESPN also gets more basketball games than first reported (31 vs 25), bringing the total of games between ESPN and CBS to 56.

The money is still about $18M/yr total according to Brett McMurphy.


The MWC appearance bonus will NOT apply to games not controlled by the conference:

Quote:Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said the bonus will not apply to non-league-controlled games, such as Boise State’s 2013 road games at Washington and BYU. The Mountain West cannot sell those games.

Read more here: http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

CBS is negotiating the contract for the CCG, which should be about $1.25M/yr, based on previous reports.

All other games not televised by either CBS or MWC (about 28-30 games)will be sold to regional partners or to digital partners.

Basketball games on ESPN will be a big benefit.

Other tidbits:

Quote:Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph
Boise State can only be required to play 3 non-Saturday games per year. Way it's written, I wonder if Broncos can agree to play more.

Quote:Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph
ESPN can't put more than 2 games per year on ESPN3, per terms of deal. ESPN can also swap a home game for a conference road game with CBS.

Quote:Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph
CBS Sports Network retains rights to Mountain West basketball tournament.

(03-20-2013 03:32 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...nus-games/

Deal is now final. And by final, I mean no other national network will be getting in on the MWC.

CBS and ESPN will each get 22 football games (ESPN gets all Boise home games). CBS gets first 8, then ESPN & CBS alternate picks.

ESPN also gets more basketball games than first reported (31 vs 25), bringing the total of games between ESPN and CBS to 56.

The money is still about $18M/yr total according to Brett McMurphy and confirmed by Brian Murphy.


The MWC appearance bonus will NOT apply to games not controlled by the conference:

Quote:Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said the bonus will not apply to non-league-controlled games, such as Boise State’s 2013 road games at Washington and BYU. The Mountain West cannot sell those games.

Read more here: http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

CBS is negotiating the contract for the CCG, which should be about $1.25M/yr, based on previous reports.

All other games not televised by either CBS or ESPN (about 28-30 games) will be sold to regional partners or to digital partners.

How many games are on ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC?

Of course they will have to gain a good reputation and earn a shot at bigger money. Gotta start small. It will get better in the future for the MWC.

(03-20-2013 04:04 PM)S11 Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 03:32 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...nus-games/

Deal is now final. And by final, I mean no other national network will be getting in on the MWC.

CBS and ESPN will each get 22 football games (ESPN gets all Boise home games). CBS gets first 8, then ESPN & CBS alternate picks.

ESPN also gets more basketball games than first reported (31 vs 25), bringing the total of games between ESPN and CBS to 56.

The money is still about $18M/yr total according to Brett McMurphy and confirmed by Brian Murphy.


The MWC appearance bonus will NOT apply to games not controlled by the conference:

Quote:Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said the bonus will not apply to non-league-controlled games, such as Boise State’s 2013 road games at Washington and BYU. The Mountain West cannot sell those games.

Read more here: http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

CBS is negotiating the contract for the CCG, which should be about $1.25M/yr, based on previous reports.

All other games not televised by either CBS or ESPN (about 28-30 games) will be sold to regional partners or to digital partners.

How many games are on ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC?

As for BSU only, at least 3 games.

(03-20-2013 04:14 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 04:04 PM)S11 Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 03:32 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...nus-games/

Deal is now final. And by final, I mean no other national network will be getting in on the MWC.

CBS and ESPN will each get 22 football games (ESPN gets all Boise home games). CBS gets first 8, then ESPN & CBS alternate picks.

ESPN also gets more basketball games than first reported (31 vs 25), bringing the total of games between ESPN and CBS to 56.

The money is still about $18M/yr total according to Brett McMurphy and confirmed by Brian Murphy.


The MWC appearance bonus will NOT apply to games not controlled by the conference:

Quote:Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said the bonus will not apply to non-league-controlled games, such as Boise State’s 2013 road games at Washington and BYU. The Mountain West cannot sell those games.

Read more here: http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

CBS is negotiating the contract for the CCG, which should be about $1.25M/yr, based on previous reports.

All other games not televised by either CBS or ESPN (about 28-30 games) will be sold to regional partners or to digital partners.

How many games are on ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC?

As for BSU only, at least 3 games.

I saw that. I was curious overall so we could get a minimum cut for the other teams.

http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

"Terms of the deal were not released, but ESPN's Brett McMurphy reported that the total of the two deals will be about $18 million annually. Those numbers are accurate, according to Statesman sources.

Conference officials expect to pay about $6 million per year in national TV bonuses. That would leave $12 million to be distributed to schools, roughly $1 million per school."
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So, apparently, some schools may only get 1M, if they are not selected for TV....

(03-20-2013 04:16 PM)S11 Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 04:14 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 04:04 PM)S11 Wrote:  

(03-20-2013 03:32 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...nus-games/

Deal is now final. And by final, I mean no other national network will be getting in on the MWC.

CBS and ESPN will each get 22 football games (ESPN gets all Boise home games). CBS gets first 8, then ESPN & CBS alternate picks.

ESPN also gets more basketball games than first reported (31 vs 25), bringing the total of games between ESPN and CBS to 56.

The money is still about $18M/yr total according to Brett McMurphy and confirmed by Brian Murphy.


The MWC appearance bonus will NOT apply to games not controlled by the conference:

Quote:Mountain West Commissioner Craig Thompson said the bonus will not apply to non-league-controlled games, such as Boise State’s 2013 road games at Washington and BYU. The Mountain West cannot sell those games.

Read more here: http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

CBS is negotiating the contract for the CCG, which should be about $1.25M/yr, based on previous reports.

All other games not televised by either CBS or ESPN (about 28-30 games) will be sold to regional partners or to digital partners.

How many games are on ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC?

As for BSU only, at least 3 games.

I saw that. I was curious overall so we could get a minimum cut for the other teams.

Oh..sorry. Yeah not sure about that.
We'll see shortly, I believe now that the schedule is out who picks what games and that'll help see how the other teams are affected.

(03-20-2013 04:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

"Terms of the deal were not released, but ESPN's Brett McMurphy reported that the total of the two deals will be about $18 million annually. Those numbers are accurate, according to Statesman sources.

Conference officials expect to pay about $6 million per year in national TV bonuses. That would leave $12 million to be distributed to schools, roughly $1 million per school."
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So, apparently, some schools may only get 1M, if they are not selected for TV....

Which was apparently what they were going to get anyway from what I understand before BSU/SDSU came back.

(03-20-2013 04:24 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  http://blogs.idahostatesman.com/boise-st...rylink=cpy

"Terms of the deal were not released, but ESPN's Brett McMurphy reported that the total of the two deals will be about $18 million annually. Those numbers are accurate, according to Statesman sources.

Conference officials expect to pay about $6 million per year in national TV bonuses. That would leave $12 million to be distributed to schools, roughly $1 million per school."
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So, apparently, some schools may only get 1M, if they are not selected for TV....

Let's assume none qualify for the 500k bonus (which probably won't be the case) that means that a maximum of 20 appearances on those networks are budgeted for. So probably some combo of boise in non-con earning 300k and both teams in league games getting 300k each. Probably in the 8-12 game range depending on how many non-con and saturday appearances there are.

nBE is at $20/mil for all starting 14-15. MW looks like around $18/mil yr. but, still need CCG and third tier to sell. bonuses will be paid from playoff revenue would be my guess. It won't touch TV. The rest of five, if evenly split, can get around $17/mil yr from playoff revenue. It will be same in end. However, top performers in MW have chance to pocket more BCS monies with 50-50 split. So, they will stand chance at earning way more than others.

Quote:Brian Murphy ‏@murphsturph
ESPN can't put more than 2 games per year on ESPN3, per terms of deal. ESPN can also swap a home game for a conference road game with CBS.

To clarify this point, Murphy was only talking about Boise here, not the whole MWC. Boise can only have two ESPN3 only games per year.