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Future of UC, U of L rivalry unknown
Future of UC, U of L rivalry unknown
Mar 3, 2013

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The future of the Cincinnati, Louisville rivalry, which dates back to 1921, is unknown. / The Cincinnati Enquirer/ Joseph Fuqua II

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Assuming that things stay as they are now, Louisville will spend one more year in the Big East Conference before moving to the Atlantic Coast Conference in 2014. That means the UC-Louisville basketball rivalry, which dates to 1921, will be played at least one more time.

What happens after that?

If Louisville is in the ACC and UC remains in the Big East, will the two long-time rivals continue to play each other?

“I would like to continue playing Louisville no matter what,” said UC athletic director Whit Babcock. (Louisville Athletic Director) Tom Jurich and I talked about it. I believe that Tom is open to it. What he said is that I’ve got to get my hands around how many league games we’re going to play in the ACC. He also has an out-of-league game with Kentucky in football so which ones does he keep?”

UC basketball coach Mick Cronin said he and Louisville coach Rick Pitino have not yet discussed the possibility of playing each other after the Cardinals leave for the ACC but that they will.

“I think we belong in the same league,” Cronin said. “We’ll see.”

Louisville leads the series with UC, 54-42.

Cronin said he has had discussions with Pitt coach Jamie Dixon about a non-league series after the Panthers move to the ACC next year. He hopes to do the same with Syracuse, which is also headed to the ACC.

“Those are teams that make you better,” Cronin said, “teams I respect. You want to continue to play against the best.”

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130...ry-unknown
 
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Shouldn't be that difficult to schedule a series for basketball. Makes sense for both programs IMO.
 
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I think you will the Cincinnati and Louisville continue the rivalry. I am excited about the prospect of playing Pitt and Syracuse in the non-conference part of the schedule next season. Creating an interesting non-league schedule would go a long way for this program. I actually would prefer a more difficult non-conference schedule and slightly weaker conference schedule for the sake of balance.
 
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I'd rather have a difficult conference schedule and an easy non-conference schedule for the sake of money.
 
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Back when we left the Metro to be in the Great Midwest, I seem to recall not playing Louisville for several years. Am I recalling correctly?
 
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This rivalry has to continue in both sports.
 
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I'm not sure what the ACC's plans are regarding conference games but if they play 9 conference games and UL has a government mandated home and home with UK so they're really limited in what they can do non conference. Ideally most teams like to schedule an easy low D1 school or IAA. That only leaves one game, unfortunately I don't see the Keg of Nails game being an annual event past 2013.
 
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This might anger some people but how is this different than some of us saying UC doesn't need XU (basketball, obviously) or Miami (football) on the schedule. The same could be said by UofL. Now, for the most part, I think Cardnal fans appreciate this rivalry but if they are in an AQ (or whatever) conference and we are not, the shoe is on the other foot for us. I'm just sayin'.
 
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(03-04-2013 04:19 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  This might anger some people but how is this different than some of us saying UC doesn't need XU (basketball, obviously) or Miami (football) on the schedule. The same could be said by UofL. Now, for the most part, I think Cardnal fans appreciate this rivalry but if they are in an AQ (or whatever) conference and we are not, the shoe is on the other foot for us. I'm just sayin'.

We'll see. I still think they need to play us to continue recruiting in Ohio with regularity.
 
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(03-04-2013 01:57 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  I'm not sure what the ACC's plans are regarding conference games but if they play 9 conference games and UL has a government mandated home and home with UK so they're really limited in what they can do non conference.

Two points.

1) The ACC has said that it will stick with an 8 game conference schedule for the foreseeable future instead of transitioning to nine conference games in 2013 as originally planned (link). Florida State, Georgia Tech and Clemson all wanted more OOC scheduling flexibility since they all have built-in SEC rivals. That gives ACC teams 3 or 4 OOC games to schedule each years depending on whether Notre Dame is on the schedule.

2) There actually isn't a mandate requiring UofL and UK to play each other in either hoops or football. There was a lot of political pressure back in the mid 1980s to resume the basketball series, including threats of forcing the game via state mandate. However, no laws were ever actually passed as the schools started scheduling one another before Frankfort could act. Likewise, political pressure in the mid 1990s got the football series but no requirements were actually put in place.


(03-04-2013 01:57 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  Ideally most teams like to schedule an easy low D1 school or IAA. That only leaves one game, unfortunately I don't see the Keg of Nails game being an annual event past 2013.

During the ACC press conference, Tom was asked about scheduling going forward and he specifically mentioned that he wanted to keep UK and UC on the schedule. Now of those two, UK is the one that will get priority in staying on the schedule (for obvious reasons), but I think it is a pretty good sign for the future of the series that he mentioned Cincinnati as well.

My guess is that the football game might not end up being an annual series, but that it will be a regularly scheduled series. For example, UC and UofL might play in the years when UofL does not play Notre Dame as part of the ACC arrangement. I suspect that is what Tom was referring to when he said he needed to figure out "how many league games we’re going to play in the ACC".

As for hoops, I'd be pretty shocked if the game is not made an annual game that rotates with UK (e.g. UofL plays at UC when UK is in Louisville). I know Pitino likes to schedule games against former assistant coaches and he also likes Mick a lot as well.
 
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Thanks for stopping by. Your information and input are appreciated.
 
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