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(03-03-2013 03:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(03-03-2013 02:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  god GOPers are stupid...

Says the rent-a-cop. 03-rotfl

How dare I work for honest pay...what am I thinking!?

You don't have to though. Just sit back, relax, and let someone else's honest pay cover it.

Yeah, you can sure live large on 200 bucks worth of food stamps. 01-wingedeagle

Imagine how much more it'd be if you could just steal more from productive society to give to the unproductive.
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(03-03-2013 02:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(03-03-2013 01:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Now the poor, elderly, students, and uneducated are parasites? No wonder the GOP can't take the White House...you hate Americans.

So you equate being American with being poor and uneducated?

Nice attempt at spin, but fail none the less...the students, elderly, and poor are most dependent on the government...do you deny this?

LOL at you accusing me of spin for using your exact words, after mangling ODUSMitty's words (where he didn't say anything about "students, elderly, and poor"). Not many students I have known are dependent on the gov't.

god GOPers are stupid...

"does anyone believe that the parasites that are generationally-dependent on the government"

Students (ever heard of student loans, minimum wage jobs, and food stamps), the elderly, and the poor are dependent on the government...thus he is calling them "parasites"...his word, not mine.

you must know those mitt Romney students...just ask mommy and daddy for money!

GOPers hate Americans.

Twice now you misquoted and spun what he said. "Generationally-dependent". These are people who by and large choose to feed off a host. The definition of parasite.
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RE: What does it say about America?
(03-03-2013 03:05 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 03:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:58 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:51 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:49 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Says the rent-a-cop. 03-rotfl

How dare I work for honest pay...what am I thinking!?

You don't have to though. Just sit back, relax, and let someone else's honest pay cover it.

Yeah, you can sure live large on 200 bucks worth of food stamps. 01-wingedeagle

Imagine how much more it'd be if you could just steal more from productive society to give to the unproductive.

Lets just kill them then....

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(03-03-2013 03:10 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:26 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:02 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  So you equate being American with being poor and uneducated?

Nice attempt at spin, but fail none the less...the students, elderly, and poor are most dependent on the government...do you deny this?

LOL at you accusing me of spin for using your exact words, after mangling ODUSMitty's words (where he didn't say anything about "students, elderly, and poor"). Not many students I have known are dependent on the gov't.

god GOPers are stupid...

"does anyone believe that the parasites that are generationally-dependent on the government"

Students (ever heard of student loans, minimum wage jobs, and food stamps), the elderly, and the poor are dependent on the government...thus he is calling them "parasites"...his word, not mine.

you must know those mitt Romney students...just ask mommy and daddy for money!

GOPers hate Americans.

Twice now you misquoted and spun what he said. "Generationally-dependent". These are people who by and large choose to feed off a host. The definition of parasite.

There is no choice...that's your fallacy.
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You know not of what you speak. Of course no one on the left does. That's why the problem has grow so hugh.
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(03-03-2013 02:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(03-03-2013 02:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(03-03-2013 01:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Now the poor, elderly, students, and uneducated are parasites? No wonder the GOP can't take the White House...you hate Americans.

So you equate being American with being poor and uneducated?

Nice attempt at spin, but fail none the less...the students, elderly, and poor are most dependent on the government...do you deny this?

LOL at you accusing me of spin for using your exact words, after mangling ODUSMitty's words (where he didn't say anything about "students, elderly, and poor"). Not many students I have known are dependent on the gov't.

god GOPers are stupid...

"does anyone believe that the parasites that are generationally-dependent on the government"

Students (ever heard of student loans, minimum wage jobs, and food stamps), the elderly, and the poor are dependent on the government...thus he is calling them "parasites"...his word, not mine.

you must know those mitt Romney students...just ask mommy and daddy for money!

GOPers hate Americans.

Smitty's operative words were "generationally dependent". That wouldn't include students who when they graduate, should move off the dependent list. Also doesn't include the elderly as they move into the Medicare ranks after a lifetime of working.

Too many of the poor however, are among the "generational" ranks. They are born to parents on the government teat and they themselves continue the welfare life by making crappy choices in their own lives. These are the ones Smitty has a problem with...........and so do I.
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(03-03-2013 04:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:40 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:26 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:07 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:02 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  So you equate being American with being poor and uneducated?

Nice attempt at spin, but fail none the less...the students, elderly, and poor are most dependent on the government...do you deny this?

LOL at you accusing me of spin for using your exact words, after mangling ODUSMitty's words (where he didn't say anything about "students, elderly, and poor"). Not many students I have known are dependent on the gov't.

god GOPers are stupid...

"does anyone believe that the parasites that are generationally-dependent on the government"

Students (ever heard of student loans, minimum wage jobs, and food stamps), the elderly, and the poor are dependent on the government...thus he is calling them "parasites"...his word, not mine.

you must know those mitt Romney students...just ask mommy and daddy for money!

GOPers hate Americans.

Smitty's operative words were "generationally dependent". That wouldn't include students who when they graduate, should move off the dependent list. Also doesn't include the elderly as they move into the Medicare ranks after a lifetime of working.

Too many of the poor however, are among the "generational" ranks. They are born to parents on the government teat and they themselves continue the welfare life by making crappy choices in their own lives. These are the ones Smitty has a problem with...........and so do I.

So would Drew, if he had any sense.
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(03-03-2013 11:20 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Every politician probably has his or her pet project that they don't want to see cut. But Obama has to make the tough choices. The GOP offered to give him full authority on what to cut and he doesn't want it. He can't make the tough decisions. Obama is the worst president we've ever had, the worst leader we've ever had, the most devisive president we've ever had, and the most egotistical president we've ever had. We pay him to take our money and freedoms.

To be fair, if he took those powers it would set a pretty dangerous precedent. Would you want the president who you call the worst leader, most divisive, and most egotistical to have this power in perpetuity?

To be honest, if any president took that power I'd be totally against it.
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(03-03-2013 03:11 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 03:05 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 03:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:58 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 02:51 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  How dare I work for honest pay...what am I thinking!?

You don't have to though. Just sit back, relax, and let someone else's honest pay cover it.

Yeah, you can sure live large on 200 bucks worth of food stamps. 01-wingedeagle

Imagine how much more it'd be if you could just steal more from productive society to give to the unproductive.

Lets just kill them then....

Care to respond? Why don't we let them take the money directly from others? Why must we pay someone to do it for them?
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(03-03-2013 04:52 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(03-03-2013 11:20 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  Every politician probably has his or her pet project that they don't want to see cut. But Obama has to make the tough choices. The GOP offered to give him full authority on what to cut and he doesn't want it. He can't make the tough decisions. Obama is the worst president we've ever had, the worst leader we've ever had, the most devisive president we've ever had, and the most egotistical president we've ever had. We pay him to take our money and freedoms.

To be fair, if he took those powers it would set a pretty dangerous precedent. Would you want the president who you call the worst leader, most divisive, and most egotistical to have this power in perpetuity?

To be honest, if any president took that power I'd be totally against it.

The money cutting power just pertained to the current $85 billion and nothing more. Still, obama's own party struck it down.
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They act like it is the end of the world to cut a fraction of US gubment spending in one year while President Barry increased it 100% in one year. 03-puke
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(03-03-2013 01:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
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(03-03-2013 12:04 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Since this POTUS has been in power....I have taken a 30% pay cut due to his crappy economy. I still pay my bills on time. I still do most of the things I did before. I just stopped the waste. I suggest the government do the same damn thing.


And here's the thing....does anyone believe that the parasites that are generationally-dependent on the government have felt anywhere near the same pain? Hell, most of these morons cart around better cell phones than I do........

Now the poor, elderly, students, and uneducated are parasites? No wonder the GOP can't take the White House...you hate Americans.

Engaging in hyperbole and putting words in peoples mouths does not make your comments valid. I suggest you refrain. You made yourself look foolish.
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I made my point and targeted the group of Americans that do nothing but live off of other's labors. How any fool could interpret my post to include students, elderly, and those recently unemployed is not my concern.

But, yes, I loathe those that won't, while feeling sympathy for those that can't. It is too damned comfortable in this country to not do a damned thing but take from others and breed more that pass that tradition down to the next generation of tapeworms. F them, and the liberal machine that takes my money to support their existence. We pay the bills and are demonized in the process.
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(03-03-2013 10:58 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Federal budget spending is at 3.8 trillion. We can't cut 84 billion and not put the nation into some type of crisis? Think about it.03-idea

Scare tactics. I work for a defense contractor that is honest with its employees and everyone agrees, sequester isn't affecting anyone. But hey, Bob Woodward did find that guy in WV losing his job.

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It is too damned confortable in this country to not do a damned thing but take from others and breed more that pass that tradition down to the next generation of tapeworms. F them, and the liberal machine that takes my money to support their existence. We pay the bills and are demonized in the process.

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I do think maybe we demonize the folks on welfare perhaps a bit unfairly. The system is set up to KEEP people dependent on it. When someone on welfare can't take a job paying $35,000 a year without losing money to the combination of increased taxes and reduced benefits, then the poor are trapped. Until we address that, the rest of this is just kidding ourselves.
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No argument here, Owl. That's why I recommend that the entitlement class be capped at goverment support at a level (for all benefits) of 75% of a 40-hour workweek of minimum wage. It should "suck more" to be poor and unemployed vs being poor and poorly employed. And no increase in benefits for adding more little bastard children to the family - responsibility has to start somewhere. Until there is incentive to move up and fend for themselves, all animals (including humans) will gravitate towards what is easiest. We need to remove that crutch so jobs now filled by illegals become desirable to the parasite class.
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Folks, nothing is going to change any of this. We are toast, 50-60 years of handouts and "progression" has ruined what this country is supposed to be about. The only, and I mean only thing that will correct the pattern is a total collapse reset. IIRC Friedman called it wiping the slate clean.
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(03-03-2013 10:11 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I do think maybe we demonize the folks on welfare perhaps a bit unfairly. The system is set up to KEEP people dependent on it. When someone on welfare can't take a job paying $35,000 a year without losing money to the combination of increased taxes and reduced benefits, then the poor are trapped. Until we address that, the rest of this is just kidding ourselves.

I agree that we do demonize people on welfare too much. It should be our responsibility to ensure that people should get necessities if they really need them and deserve them.
I know someone that had to take early retirement that is just barely making it. Actually has no heat or hot water. But is too infirmed to really work. Could only make a little money per year or would lose a dollar for every two dollars they make in wages. This should not be the case.
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