The O-line will get better as the year goes on. They have 2 sophomores on it currently, as they get more experience it should get better.

I'm not too worried about Riley Ferguson at QB. Its only his second game as a starter at the D1 level. He will get better as he gets more experienced. I dont know much about JUCO football, but if I were to guess, it would be that SEMO and Kansas are probably the 2 best teams he's faced in his career to date. So give him some time, and he will improve.

(09-17-2016 09:12 PM)OneShiningMoment Wrote:  Let the season play out. Ferguson and the OLine will be fine.

Willie Kemp and Josh Pastner send their regards

With all the talk about the offensive line..remember that they shift guys in and out and are looking for a good combination that will stand out.
Its like a 2 QB system kinda....it rarely works.
Guys need to develop chemistry...and if they are still juggling guys in and out on the offensive line...it is hard to develop that if guys around you are coming in and out.

Restating the obvious .
New guys new positions new chemistry.

But a shaky O line could teach a QB new moves, or it could hamper every good move he used to make.

Pressure of getting smashed to smithereens every play has gotta be a mindeff.

(09-17-2016 07:05 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 07:00 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Why do this at all? These aren't pros getting paid - these are young men who choose to come play at our University. None of them are garbage. Calling them garbage is a garbage move though. Go watch the video of them spending time with the kids at St. Jude. Fine young men on this team - none deserve this ish.

I tend to agree. It is a message board but to call them "garbage" after a big win is a little much. Do they need to improve from an outsider inspection, yes.

I tend to agree as well, but you think we are even approaching harsh? You should check out the KU Scouts message board for yesterday's game. Those guys are brutal. "Hot Garbage" would be tame in comparison.

(09-17-2016 10:11 PM)Tigerbythetail Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 10:04 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 09:49 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 09:27 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 09:20 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  On par with the Kansas QBs?? You probably should clarify that statement b/c KU turned it over 6 times and most of those were on one QB or the other. We had 0 turnovers.

And Riley threw two horrendous INTs against an FCS team. Riley is looking worse than Paxton Lynch's first year at the moment. I don't know if it is the QB, O-Line, or Playcalling, but our offense would be lucky to put together 1 long drive a game.

That was his first game, there is a reason most teams open with an easy win... He looked much better this week than against SEMO. We just need him to keep getting better. Kansas, for all of its faults, actually has a solid pass rush. No reason to be throwing players under a bus after a blowout win.

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I'm not throwing anyone under the bus. He just isn't playing very good.

You need to take a breath, and review the game again. This is the SECOND game for Ferguson, and you're ready to render a verdict? Sure, he held on to the ball several times today when he should have thrown it away, but he had no interceptions and had a decent day. The team s improving each week, they'll be fine.

This is not his 2nd game of college football and it isn't like he is playing against Bama... He just hasn't looked good which doesn't mean that he can't look good.

(09-18-2016 02:04 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 07:05 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 07:00 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  Why do this at all? These aren't pros getting paid - these are young men who choose to come play at our University. None of them are garbage. Calling them garbage is a garbage move though. Go watch the video of them spending time with the kids at St. Jude. Fine young men on this team - none deserve this ish.

I tend to agree. It is a message board but to call them "garbage" after a big win is a little much. Do they need to improve from an outsider inspection, yes.

I tend to agree as well, but you think we are even approaching harsh? You should check out the KU Scouts message board for yesterday's game. Those guys are brutal. "Hot Garbage" would be tame in comparison.

Kansas has lost 36 straight road games, hasn't beaten an FBS team in over 2 years, isn't replacing the best coach and qb in the history of their program, and has every right to be upset that all the p5 money can't keep them within 30 points of an AAC team.

(09-17-2016 02:50 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Hard for Ferguson to do much when every other snap there are defenders in his face.

Scary thought - those are the D lines for SEMO and Kansas.

Have given up 8 sacks and 16 tackles for loss in the first two games. Garbage may be too nice for what the OL is doing.

(09-18-2016 02:06 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 10:11 PM)Tigerbythetail Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 10:04 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 09:49 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(09-17-2016 09:27 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  And Riley threw two horrendous INTs against an FCS team. Riley is looking worse than Paxton Lynch's first year at the moment. I don't know if it is the QB, O-Line, or Playcalling, but our offense would be lucky to put together 1 long drive a game.

That was his first game, there is a reason most teams open with an easy win... He looked much better this week than against SEMO. We just need him to keep getting better. Kansas, for all of its faults, actually has a solid pass rush. No reason to be throwing players under a bus after a blowout win.

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I'm not throwing anyone under the bus. He just isn't playing very good.

You need to take a breath, and review the game again. This is the SECOND game for Ferguson, and you're ready to render a verdict? Sure, he held on to the ball several times today when he should have thrown it away, but he had no interceptions and had a decent day. The team s improving each week, they'll be fine.

This is not his 2nd game of college football and it isn't like he is playing against Bama... He just hasn't looked good which doesn't mean that he can't look good.

Aaron Rodgers and Adrian Petersen would have a hard time producing with the way the line is playing. With all the players returning should not be possible for this team to be playing this poorly.

Tackles for loss allowed 109th out of 128

Sacks allowed 119th out of 128.

Rushing offense 82nd out of 128.

First down offense 114th out of 128

Red Zone offense 118th out of 128

Do not put the issues with the offense on Ferguson.

Completion % 29th out of 113.

(09-18-2016 05:36 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

You know, I know he took a lot of ribbing for the "I'm a MAN. I'm 40." comment. But he is exactly right. It's not like these guys WANT to drop passes and get sacked.

(09-18-2016 09:30 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-18-2016 05:36 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

You know, I know he took a lot of ribbing for the "I'm a MAN. I'm 40." comment. But he is exactly right. It's not like these guys WANT to drop passes and get sacked.

I will always respect him for taking that stand. He was exactly right and he wasn't doing it for publicity. His face and eyes show he was really hurt for his player. Love that guy. I wish more college coaches would approach the game the same way.