I think he's gay personally. How are you the best and most widely known football player on the Notre Dame football team and not slaying ladies left and right. Granted he's not the QB, but a first round draft pick shouldn't have any trouble getting girls in his bed. No reason he should have ever been trolling for girls on the Internet.

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  An even better point to all of this is some of you guys have kids that probably deal with this already...don't you want to be able to discuss this intelligently with them?

We live in a different world that is evolving exponentially on the cultural side. I for one, don't want to be sitting at the bar with old men bitching about how, "tings uzzzda bee" FK THAT. What a waste of life.

I would much rather listen to what today is about, try to learn and absorb, and then participate with the youth mindset. Why wouldn't ya?
"Memories are great until they consume one" - ME

I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

You have no idea how appropriate it is that you put intelligently in quotations.

Its very appropriate in response to "stinkfist" using the term "intelligently" in his post.

(02-27-2013 10:58 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  Manti T'eo (BTW, best gay name ever) will never come out because...

He is Mormon.

I actually believe he is straight. He's sexually awkward because of his religious culture.

John Smith is rolling over in his grave now....I did not know that. A ND mormon....there's dna worth studying

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  An even better point to all of this is some of you guys have kids that probably deal with this already...don't you want to be able to discuss this intelligently with them?

We live in a different world that is evolving exponentially on the cultural side. I for one, don't want to be sitting at the bar with old men bitching about how, "tings uzzzda bee" FK THAT. What a waste of life.

I would much rather listen to what today is about, try to learn and absorb, and then participate with the youth mindset. Why wouldn't ya?
"Memories are great until they consume one" - ME

I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

You have no idea how appropriate it is that you put intelligently in quotations.

LMFAO....good play!

(02-27-2013 11:05 PM)egrizzard Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  An even better point to all of this is some of you guys have kids that probably deal with this already...don't you want to be able to discuss this intelligently with them?

We live in a different world that is evolving exponentially on the cultural side. I for one, don't want to be sitting at the bar with old men bitching about how, "tings uzzzda bee" FK THAT. What a waste of life.

I would much rather listen to what today is about, try to learn and absorb, and then participate with the youth mindset. Why wouldn't ya?
"Memories are great until they consume one" - ME

I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

You have no idea how appropriate it is that you put intelligently in quotations.

The hilarity of this thread is great.

It's not carrot worthy....but it may have some staying power....stop it dammit

(02-27-2013 11:07 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  I think he's gay personally. How are you the best and most widely known football player on the Notre Dame football team and not slaying ladies left and right. Granted he's not the QB, but a first round draft pick shouldn't have any trouble getting girls in his bed. No reason he should have ever been trolling for girls on the Internet.

I'd say he's gay also. Probably used that story and the fake girlfriend bs as a way to justify not hanging out or partying with hot girls while his teamates did. That would be my guess.

(02-27-2013 10:22 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:15 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:52 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Does it matter?

It sure would matter to me. I wouldnt want to shower and share a dressing room with a guy that is gay.

You most likely have....that is part of the point...and why would you care anyway unless you would like it? i mean that seriously. Why would it matter? If a girl walked in on you naked, would you go turtle?

I have no problem with gay people. That said, I wouldn't want to shower in public with gay men for the exact same reason women don't want to shower in public with straight men. I don't see how that's something to just gloss over.

(02-27-2013 11:12 PM)justin_sane15 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:22 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:15 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 09:52 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Does it matter?

It sure would matter to me. I wouldnt want to shower and share a dressing room with a guy that is gay.

You most likely have....that is part of the point...and why would you care anyway unless you would like it? i mean that seriously. Why would it matter? If a girl walked in on you naked, would you go turtle?

I have no problem with gay people. That said, I wouldn't want to shower in public with gay men for the exact same reason women don't want to shower in public with straight men. I don't see how that's something to just gloss over.

My exact thoughts as well.

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:53 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  An even better point to all of this is some of you guys have kids that probably deal with this already...don't you want to be able to discuss this intelligently with them?

We live in a different world that is evolving exponentially on the cultural side. I for one, don't want to be sitting at the bar with old men bitching about how, "tings uzzzda bee" FK THAT. What a waste of life.

I would much rather listen to what today is about, try to learn and absorb, and then participate with the youth mindset. Why wouldn't ya?
"Memories are great until they consume one" - ME

I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

Wow

You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

So did he answer any questions as to how the heisman runner-up was an absolute non-factor in the biggest game of his career and on the biggest stage?

Lack of personal integrity?

(02-27-2013 10:58 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  Manti T'eo (BTW, best gay name ever) will never come out because...

He is Mormon.

I actually believe he is straight. He's sexually awkward because of his religious culture.

He doesn't seem like a mormon. He went to Notre Dame..and mormons usually go on a 2-year mission before or during college and end up being 24 or 25 year old rookies (see Austin Collie, Dennis Pitta, John Beck, Robert McCune). I knew a mormon girl in high school that wasn't sexually awkward at all.

Edit: I guess he's waiting till later in life. I thought they were supposed to do it early.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4772902

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:53 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  An even better point to all of this is some of you guys have kids that probably deal with this already...don't you want to be able to discuss this intelligently with them?

We live in a different world that is evolving exponentially on the cultural side. I for one, don't want to be sitting at the bar with old men bitching about how, "tings uzzzda bee" FK THAT. What a waste of life.

I would much rather listen to what today is about, try to learn and absorb, and then participate with the youth mindset. Why wouldn't ya?
"Memories are great until they consume one" - ME

I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

Wow

You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

You can push your gay campaign agenda on others but you arent pushing it on me. I'll stick to my beliefs and you can stick to yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

(02-27-2013 11:27 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:53 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

Wow

You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

You can push your gay campaign agenda on others but you arent pushing it on me. I'll stick to my beliefs and you can stick to yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I hardly have a gay agenda....just posted something that I found odd this afternoon from the Pat O'Brien show...science has proven so much and we are just beginning to understand genetics....you obviously think people should be designed a certain way...keep up the faith....good luck with that.

Ignorance is justified...stupidity...that's a whole other issue.

I like how this whole thing started with me saying "Who cares if he's gay?" and MUHerd saying that he does and is now ending with him accusing people of pushing a "gay agenda". What agenda is being pushed by saying Who Cares?

I think that some football players who are 100% straight have a problem with being around gay players in a locker room. I understand that. I think that teams should have partitioned lockers if they can afford it, and I think most teams can
But players have to accept that they will be playing with homosexuals, practicing with them, etc. People should take the moral high ground and be proud of the fact that we live in an inclusive country where people get to practice their trade regardless of their personal views. I mean, look at CUSA. We have three Owl teams. It's a very expressive conference.

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:53 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:34 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  An even better point to all of this is some of you guys have kids that probably deal with this already...don't you want to be able to discuss this intelligently with them?

We live in a different world that is evolving exponentially on the cultural side. I for one, don't want to be sitting at the bar with old men bitching about how, "tings uzzzda bee" FK THAT. What a waste of life.

I would much rather listen to what today is about, try to learn and absorb, and then participate with the youth mindset. Why wouldn't ya?
"Memories are great until they consume one" - ME

I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

Wow

You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

Science?

Put 100 lesbian couples on an island
Put 100 gay couples on an island
Put 100 straight couples on an island

Revisit all three islands in 150 years... there's your science.

(02-28-2013 12:32 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:53 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:42 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I would rather teach and raise my kids the right way........By telling them "intelligently" that one man lusting over another man is a mental illness. Plain and simple.

Wow

You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

Science?

Put 100 lesbian couples on an island
Put 100 gay couples on an island
Put 100 straight couples on an island

Revisit all three islands in 150 years... there's your science.

This thread is touchy enough so I'm not trying to bring up the whole marriage discussion but this sign was close enough to what you just said that I had to post it.



Also, just to be clear only thing making your scenario above work is gender not sexuality. An island comprised solely of men or women (regardless of their sexual orientation) cannot reproduce. An island with both men and women (regardless of sexual orientation) can reproduce.

(02-28-2013 12:42 AM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 12:32 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 10:53 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  Wow

You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

Science?

Put 100 lesbian couples on an island
Put 100 gay couples on an island
Put 100 straight couples on an island

Revisit all three islands in 150 years... there's your science.

This thread is touchy enough so I'm not trying to bring up the whole marriage discussion but this sign was close enough to what you just said that I had to post it.



Also, just to be clear only thing making your scenario above work is gender not sexuality. An island comprised solely of men or women (regardless of their sexual orientation) cannot reproduce. An island with both men and women (regardless of sexual orientation) can reproduce.

No **** Sherlock

(02-28-2013 12:48 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 12:42 AM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 12:32 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:04 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  You can "Wow" it all you want. Thats my right and that's what I'll do. I've been in the medical field for 20 years. Its my belief is that the American Psyciatric Assocation (DSM-II) had it right the first time before ultimately changing there stance.

...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

Science?

Put 100 lesbian couples on an island
Put 100 gay couples on an island
Put 100 straight couples on an island

Revisit all three islands in 150 years... there's your science.

This thread is touchy enough so I'm not trying to bring up the whole marriage discussion but this sign was close enough to what you just said that I had to post it.



Also, just to be clear only thing making your scenario above work is gender not sexuality. An island comprised solely of men or women (regardless of their sexual orientation) cannot reproduce. An island with both men and women (regardless of sexual orientation) can reproduce.

No **** Sherlock

Well than I guess I fail to see why you mentioned their sexual orientation or why your scenario was posted in this thread at all. I personally know more than one lesbian who has had or is trying to have kids. So why aren't there only 2 islands, one with heterosexual people and one with homosexual people?

Otherwise your scenario has nothing to do with this thread or homosexuality but gender. Or was that just the first post in a series that was going to explain to us how babies are made?

(02-28-2013 12:54 AM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 12:48 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 12:42 AM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(02-28-2013 12:32 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 11:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  ...always good to ignore science....it's always been wrong throughout it's evolution...science hasn't learned a thing...the earth is only 6.5K years old and the earth was flooded...and chromosomal genetic factors in homosexuals is a myth...they are all crazy people

Science?

Put 100 lesbian couples on an island
Put 100 gay couples on an island
Put 100 straight couples on an island

Revisit all three islands in 150 years... there's your science.

This thread is touchy enough so I'm not trying to bring up the whole marriage discussion but this sign was close enough to what you just said that I had to post it.



Also, just to be clear only thing making your scenario above work is gender not sexuality. An island comprised solely of men or women (regardless of their sexual orientation) cannot reproduce. An island with both men and women (regardless of sexual orientation) can reproduce.

No **** Sherlock

Well than I guess I fail to see why you mentioned their sexual orientation or why your scenario was posted in this thread at all. I personally know more than one lesbian who has had or is trying to have kids. So why aren't there only 2 islands, one with heterosexual people and one with homosexual people?

Otherwise your scenario has nothing to do with this thread or homosexuality but gender. Or was that just the first post in a series that was going to explain to us how babies are made?

It was in response to a post mocking "Science"... which equals biology and the act of coitus.