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(02-25-2013 12:33 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  CIT and CBI bids are all about if you are willing to pay to play, especially for home games. If you have a winning record and $$$ you'll get in.

ODU lost close to 100k last year hosting CIT games and the extra games did nothing to help our program.

Yeah, not sure why any team would actually want to participate in either the CIT or CBI tournaments.

If you are a school who's got a lot of NCAA/NIT bids then no you absolutely shouldn't want to play in them. If you haven't then it's probably a positive for your program to play more games and get more work at 1 and done games.

Still, it's usually a losing proposition ($$ wise) to participate. That money would be better spent on facilities, etc.

So extra play and practice (how much practice is allowed, anyways) is something that should be turned away?

If it cost you $100,000 then yes. Look, most of our programs aren't swimming in cash, so it's just my opinion that the money could be better used in other areas. Now, if the program has money to burn, then by all means pay to play.
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(02-25-2013 03:17 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 03:11 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Still, it's usually a losing proposition ($$ wise) to participate. That money would be better spent on facilities, etc.

So are bowl games. Coaches, fans, and players love them though.

Totally different. Bowl games are for "successful seasons" The "pay to play" bball tournaments by there very nature prove a not so successfull season. I can see NIT for the extra practice/games, etc but not the "pay to play" tournaments.
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(02-25-2013 03:21 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Now, do we have a realistic shot at the NIT?

I hope so, and I hope we see you guys there.

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(02-25-2013 12:33 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  CIT and CBI bids are all about if you are willing to pay to play, especially for home games. If you have a winning record and $$$ you'll get in.

ODU lost close to 100k last year hosting CIT games and the extra games did nothing to help our program.

Yeah, not sure why any team would actually want to participate in either the CIT or CBI tournaments.

If you are a school who's got a lot of NCAA/NIT bids then no you absolutely shouldn't want to play in them. If you haven't then it's probably a positive for your program to play more games and get more work at 1 and done games.

Still, it's usually a losing proposition ($$ wise) to participate. That money would be better spent on facilities, etc.

I somewhat disagree...I think you give your seniors as many games as possible to show them that you appreciate their contribution to the school.


Now, do we have a realistic shot at the NIT?
A shot yes, a guarantee no.

Same goes for Charlotte although we are in a little better spot than you guys. CBS still projects us as a 12 seed, which I honestly think is laughable at this point. We've lost four of our last 5.

If both our programs make the NIT, I kinda hope we meet again. Maybe attendance won't be horrendous that way.
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(02-25-2013 03:17 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  ODU won the CIT in 2009 and then beat Notre Dame in the tourney in 2010.

So there is another example of a team like VCU that built on the previous years CIT/CBI tourny experience.


Quote: Last year we got to the CIT quarters (3rd round) averaging half our season attendance for the games and are currently 4-24 this year.

and? You seriously going to blame that on that tourny? You were going to implode this year regardless.
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(02-25-2013 03:34 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
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(02-25-2013 03:11 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Still, it's usually a losing proposition ($$ wise) to participate. That money would be better spent on facilities, etc.

So are bowl games. Coaches, fans, and players love them though.

Totally different. Bowl games are for "successful seasons" The "pay to play" bball tournaments by there very nature prove a not so successfull season. I can see NIT for the extra practice/games, etc but not the "pay to play" tournaments.

Ehh I'd say the CBI/CIT is essentially the equivalent of playing in the type of bowl games that C-USA has tie ins to. Bowl games are not really for successful seasons any longer either. If ECU ends up winning 18-20 games this year I'll be more impressed with that and view it as more of a "success" than our 8-4 football season was, and even if we have to pay to play in the tournament I'd consider it worth it.
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If they don't make the NCAA's, USM has already been invited to the NIT.
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(02-25-2013 03:54 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  If they don't make the NCAA's, USM has already been invited to the NIT.

Let's hope for the NCAA's, but how do you get an early invite like that?
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(02-25-2013 03:41 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Last year we got to the CIT quarters (3rd round) averaging half our season attendance for the games and are currently 4-24 this year.
Quote:and? You seriously going to blame that on that tourny? You were going to implode this year regardless.
No, but one of the reasons given for why we played in the tourney was to get more playing time for the freshmen. That didn't work.

Our crowds were 2246, 2091, and 3412 for a team that averaged over 7000 in the regular season.

And then there's our best player getting arrested after warmups at the last game. That was a bunch of bad press nationally...
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(02-25-2013 03:44 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 03:34 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 03:17 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(02-25-2013 03:11 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Still, it's usually a losing proposition ($$ wise) to participate. That money would be better spent on facilities, etc.

So are bowl games. Coaches, fans, and players love them though.

Totally different. Bowl games are for "successful seasons" The "pay to play" bball tournaments by there very nature prove a not so successfull season. I can see NIT for the extra practice/games, etc but not the "pay to play" tournaments.

Ehh I'd say the CBI/CIT is essentially the equivalent of playing in the type of bowl games that C-USA has tie ins to. Bowl games are not really for successful seasons any longer either. If ECU ends up winning 18-20 games this year I'll be more impressed with that and view it as more of a "success" than our 8-4 football season was, and even if we have to pay to play in the tournament I'd consider it worth it.

Agreed, winning 18 games in Basketball is more respectable then a 6-6 Football season that lands you in the Side of Beef Bowl in Tampa. End of the day, there might be some programs that turn down an invite to these post season tournaments but ECU is not one of them. We have an opportunity to play some extra games and build the program, we are going to take them. Only helps with recruiting to get into a post season tournament and have the new $15 million practice facility opening in time for next year. It also could provide ECU with an opportunity to knock off a decent program which makes it all the more worth the money and time for ECU and the process of building a Basketball program under Lebo.
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(02-25-2013 04:27 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  
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(02-25-2013 03:11 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Still, it's usually a losing proposition ($$ wise) to participate. That money would be better spent on facilities, etc.

So are bowl games. Coaches, fans, and players love them though.

Totally different. Bowl games are for "successful seasons" The "pay to play" bball tournaments by there very nature prove a not so successfull season. I can see NIT for the extra practice/games, etc but not the "pay to play" tournaments.

Ehh I'd say the CBI/CIT is essentially the equivalent of playing in the type of bowl games that C-USA has tie ins to. Bowl games are not really for successful seasons any longer either. If ECU ends up winning 18-20 games this year I'll be more impressed with that and view it as more of a "success" than our 8-4 football season was, and even if we have to pay to play in the tournament I'd consider it worth it.

Agreed, winning 18 games in Basketball is more respectable then a 6-6 Football season that lands you in the Side of Beef Bowl in Tampa. End of the day, there might be some programs that turn down an invite to these post season tournaments but ECU is not one of them. We have an opportunity to play some extra games and build the program, we are going to take them. Only helps with recruiting to get into a post season tournament and have the new $15 million practice facility opening in time for next year. It also could provide ECU with an opportunity to knock off a decent program which makes it all the more worth the money and time for ECU and the process of building a Basketball program under Lebo.

I can understand your reasoning, but I wouldn't consider the CIT/CBI postseason. I mean, if you didn't pay, you wouldn't be playing as you were neither good enough for the NCAAs or the NIT. I also agree it does allow for extra practice/game; however, I just don't think the $$$ is worth it. Besides, pretty sure next years team would be just as good/worse even without playing in maybe one or two more games. Each program has to to whatever is best for their program. I just hope Charlotte doesn't participate given the money lost.
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If you get a CUSA tournament victory, NIT bound. 04-cheers

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(02-25-2013 04:40 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  If you get a CUSA tournament victory, NIT bound. 04-cheers

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It is going to take more than one. They need at least 2, but before they can even get into the position to do that; they need to beat USM on the road and then beat Tulane and Marshall in Minges. That is the only way to boost the RPI high enough to even be considered for the NIT.
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(02-25-2013 04:27 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  Agreed, winning 18 games in Basketball is more respectable then a 6-6 Football season that lands you in the Side of Beef Bowl in Tampa.

Totally depends on who you are playing. There are plenty of 6-6 teams that are still top 50 nationally they just played brutal SOS's and that in their sport would be better than some low major 20 win teams usually.

I know the year we were 6-6 and went to the bowl vs Maryland we had 2 top 25 wins over NC State and Tulsa and like 5 of the losses were to top 25 teams. That season actually had as much substance as this past 8 win one where we beat a bunch of nobodies IMO. That's why you really need computer polls to compare not only to other teams but different seasons.
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Since ECU is going off to the big leagues and leaving all us poor old C-USA teams behind I would just like to mention that the Pirates are 12-10 against Div I teams. Hello Madison Square Gardens!

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(02-25-2013 09:35 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Since ECU is going off to the big leagues and leaving all us poor old C-USA teams behind I would just like to mention that the Pirates are 12-10 against Div I teams. Hello Madison Square Gardens!

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YUP, that schedule at the beginning of the year probably dug us a whole in terms of the "eyeball test" for NIT.
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(02-25-2013 09:35 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Since ECU is going off to the big leagues and leaving all us poor old C-USA teams behind I would just like to mention that the Pirates are 12-10 against Div I teams. Hello Madison Square Gardens!

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As long as we're calling them out, in their first "winning season" under Lebo they also had a losing record to D1 teams.
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(02-25-2013 09:35 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Since ECU is going off to the big leagues and leaving all us poor old C-USA teams behind I would just like to mention that the Pirates are 12-10 against Div I teams. Hello Madison Square Gardens!

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The first instance of unprovoked smack talk in this normal thread.......
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(02-25-2013 09:50 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  As long as we're calling them out, in their first "winning season" under Lebo they also had a losing record to D1 teams.

Either way we are back in the top 100 for the 2nd time in 3 years, and unlike the 49ers, we have a little history under our coach of playing our best ball late the previous two years, not peaking early and fading. We'll see what happens but with Akeem finally getting minutes to show what he can do I expect that trend continues.
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(02-25-2013 10:21 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  The first instance of smack talk in this normal thread.......

Let them get it in while they can, we are about to have access to a higher level of talent in the "big leagues" as one of them put it.
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