Attackcoog
Moderator
Posts: 44,738
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2860
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
The Big East’s television future is secure for the next seven years. Now Aresco and Company must make the break up with the Catholic 7 as smooth as possible. Sources in the Big East say that both sides are very close to reaching an agreement, perhaps as soon as the next few weeks.
The first major announcement will be the departure date. The consensus opinion seems to be that will be July of 2014, but on Saturday afternoon one Big East source said that a departure by this July is still being discussed. How that would work that quickly remains to be seen.
http://ajerseyguy.com/
(This post was last modified: 02-23-2013 04:32 PM by Attackcoog.)
|
|
02-23-2013 04:31 PM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
I'm to the point where I'll be stunned if 2013 DOESN'T happen!
|
|
02-23-2013 06:04 PM |
|
monroedoctrine
Bench Warmer
Posts: 114
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 8
I Root For: Georgetown
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
I don't see how we can pass up $2.5 million to play SMU and Tulane. Not to mention Houston. And Central Florida.
Price will probably be the name.
|
|
02-23-2013 07:10 PM |
|
Native Georgian
Legend
Posts: 27,519
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 1024
I Root For: TULANE+GA.STATE
Location: Decatur GA
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-23-2013 07:10 PM)monroedoctrine Wrote: I don't see how we can pass up $2.5 million to play SMU and Tulane. Not to mention Houston. And Central Florida.
Price will probably be the name.
Tulane not joining until 2014 anyway. But the other are joining this year.
|
|
02-23-2013 07:17 PM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
I for one would be ok if we don't get the name. I mean, folks are going to know who the real deal is.
|
|
02-23-2013 07:20 PM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
i think something to watch is if there is a delay in the BE presidents voting for the new tv deal. My thinking is they are hammering out the final details of the split right now. i think the 10 million for next year was done by Aresco on purpose to force the split this year.
|
|
02-26-2013 08:45 AM |
|
Melky Cabrera
Bill Bradley
Posts: 4,716
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 100
I Root For: UConn
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote: i think something to watch is if there is a delay in the BE presidents voting for the new tv deal. My thinking is they are hammering out the final details of the split right now. i think the 10 million for next year was done by Aresco on purpose to force the split this year.
Just curious. Why would Aresco care about forcing anything?
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2013 10:20 AM by Melky Cabrera.)
|
|
02-26-2013 09:07 AM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 09:07 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote: (02-26-2013 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote: i think something to watch is if there is a delay in the BE presidents voting for the new tv deal. My thinking is they are hammering out the final details of the split right now. i think the 10 million for next year was done by Aresco on purpose to force the split this year.
Jusr curious. Why would Aresco care about forcing anything?
his schools would get more money per school...
i mean right now, lets say the fb deal is 15 million(last year of deal so a minimal jump from the average of the deal).
The total money coming into the conference is 25 million dollars...
if he only has 10 schools plus Notre Dame- with Rutgers and Louisville and ND not getting any money presumably since they withdrew- that's only 8 mouths to feed that 25 million dollars to.
If C7 is still there- that's 7 more mouths to feed.
|
|
02-26-2013 09:13 AM |
|
Melky Cabrera
Bill Bradley
Posts: 4,716
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 100
I Root For: UConn
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 09:13 AM)stever20 Wrote: (02-26-2013 09:07 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote: (02-26-2013 08:45 AM)stever20 Wrote: i think something to watch is if there is a delay in the BE presidents voting for the new tv deal. My thinking is they are hammering out the final details of the split right now. i think the 10 million for next year was done by Aresco on purpose to force the split this year.
Jusr curious. Why would Aresco care about forcing anything?
his schools would get more money per school...
i mean right now, lets say the fb deal is 15 million(last year of deal so a minimal jump from the average of the deal).
The total money coming into the conference is 25 million dollars...
if he only has 10 schools plus Notre Dame- with Rutgers and Louisville and ND not getting any money presumably since they withdrew- that's only 8 mouths to feed that 25 million dollars to.
If C7 is still there- that's 7 more mouths to feed.
I understand the reasoning, but Aresco is a CEO, not a conference member. He's not going to make an extra dime one way or the other. If his membership has other reasons besides money why they want to keep it together for another year, why would he care? His job is to accomplish their agenda, not to be in conflict with it.
Your post implied that he is trying to force something that wouldn't otherwise happen, suggesting that the nBE presidents might be opposed to that. I don't see what would motivate him to create a subterfuge to accomplish this goal against the wishes of his membership.
Perhaps I'm reading what you said incorrectly.
|
|
02-26-2013 10:24 AM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
Of course Aresco isn't goign to get more money personally- but forcing this would get more money for his schools next year.
I do however think his league has some major schisms that are going to come out. I think for one there is almost ironically bigger schism between football and basketball than what the old big east had in the hybrid.
Also- I said back when the split took place that I thought Aresco with the Tulane add knew that it would force the split. I think he's wanted us gone(with the hybrid) for ever.
|
|
02-26-2013 10:30 AM |
|
Melky Cabrera
Bill Bradley
Posts: 4,716
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 100
I Root For: UConn
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 10:30 AM)stever20 Wrote: Of course Aresco isn't goign to get more money personally- but forcing this would get more money for his schools next year.
I do however think his league has some major schisms that are going to come out. I think for one there is almost ironically bigger schism between football and basketball than what the old big east had in the hybrid.
Also- I said back when the split took place that I thought Aresco with the Tulane add knew that it would force the split. I think he's wanted us gone(with the hybrid) for ever.
You seem to think that Aresco has his own agenda. I'm not getting that. Why would he?
Your comment about a football/basketball schism is very interesting. Good point.
|
|
02-26-2013 10:41 AM |
|
NJRedMan
Tasted It
Posts: 8,017
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 241
I Root For: St. Johns
Location: Where the Brooklyn @
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 10:41 AM)Melky Cabrera Wrote: (02-26-2013 10:30 AM)stever20 Wrote: Of course Aresco isn't goign to get more money personally- but forcing this would get more money for his schools next year.
I do however think his league has some major schisms that are going to come out. I think for one there is almost ironically bigger schism between football and basketball than what the old big east had in the hybrid.
Also- I said back when the split took place that I thought Aresco with the Tulane add knew that it would force the split. I think he's wanted us gone(with the hybrid) for ever.
You seem to think that Aresco has his own agenda. I'm not getting that. Why would he?
Your comment about a football/basketball schism is very interesting. Good point.
Stever has his tin foil hat on for sure today.
|
|
02-26-2013 11:01 AM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
I think Aresco wanted us gone especially after seeing the TV money figures- because he knew he could get more per school for the football schools with a split than without a split.
|
|
02-26-2013 11:12 AM |
|
Attackcoog
Moderator
Posts: 44,738
Joined: Oct 2011
Reputation: 2860
I Root For: Houston
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 11:12 AM)stever20 Wrote: I think Aresco wanted us gone especially after seeing the TV money figures- because he knew he could get more per school for the football schools with a split than without a split.
I dont think so. I think Aresco had no real idea what he was walking into. The basketball schools have been seriously contemplating a split since last summer. Louisville's departure was the final straw (not Tulane).
Aresco made several attempts to keep the C-7 such as a proposal to add a couple of basketball only schools and to divide into divisions. The divisions would have been set up such that the C-7 along with UConn and Temple would have made up one division. All the newbies, Cinci, Memphis, along with Butler and another A-10 addition would have made up the other division. There would have been a home and home round robin in each division and some minimal cross division play (2 to 4 games). He offered the C-7 most of the benefits of a new conference without the split. Thoes are not the actions of a man who wants a split. I dont think he was at all interested in forcing a split. I think he simply had no idea of how to stop it (probably because there wasnt/isnt a way to stop it).
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2013 01:39 PM by Attackcoog.)
|
|
02-26-2013 01:39 PM |
|
johnbragg
Five Minute Google Expert
Posts: 16,359
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 996
I Root For: St Johns
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
It's possible that, once a split was happening, Aresco wants it as soon as possible. If he plans to sell us the name, there's no point to the incoming schools rebranding two years in a row--might as well roll out the Big 11/Metro Conference/Conference America this spring.
It's also possible that Aresco thought he could make his schools more money in over the whole contract by lowballing the 2013-14 basketball contract. He didn't get very much money though, so I'm not sure how that was supposed to work.
|
|
02-26-2013 01:53 PM |
|
stever20
Legend
Posts: 46,240
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 725
I Root For: Sports
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 01:53 PM)johnbragg Wrote: It's possible that, once a split was happening, Aresco wants it as soon as possible. If he plans to sell us the name, there's no point to the incoming schools rebranding two years in a row--might as well roll out the Big 11/Metro Conference/Conference America this spring.
It's also possible that Aresco thought he could make his schools more money in over the whole contract by lowballing the 2013-14 basketball contract. He didn't get very much money though, so I'm not sure how that was supposed to work.
maybe he did get more money???
|
|
02-26-2013 02:42 PM |
|
HoyaAnt
Water Engineer
Posts: 54
Joined: Feb 2013
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Georgetown
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
I am not sure how the voting for the new BE TV contracts actually works. If the B7 have a vote then perhaps they can use that as leverage to leave this coming July as oppose to 2014. In addition, since the conference has now secure their TV contract with ESPN, perhaps its best for both the B7 and the current conference to go their separate ways and avoid prelonging the obvious.
|
|
02-26-2013 02:54 PM |
|
johnbragg
Five Minute Google Expert
Posts: 16,359
Joined: Dec 2011
Reputation: 996
I Root For: St Johns
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 02:42 PM)stever20 Wrote: (02-26-2013 01:53 PM)johnbragg Wrote: It's possible that, once a split was happening, Aresco wants it as soon as possible. If he plans to sell us the name, there's no point to the incoming schools rebranding two years in a row--might as well roll out the Big 11/Metro Conference/Conference America this spring.
It's also possible that Aresco thought he could make his schools more money in over the whole contract by lowballing the 2013-14 basketball contract. He didn't get very much money though, so I'm not sure how that was supposed to work.
maybe he did get more money???
That would mean that, if you separate 2013-14 from the multi-year deal, those guys are getting even less than $20M per year. That's unlikely. Possible, if Aresco was insisting on a certain level of basic-cable football coverage that Fox wasn't interested in.
|
|
02-26-2013 03:00 PM |
|
NJRedMan
Tasted It
Posts: 8,017
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 241
I Root For: St. Johns
Location: Where the Brooklyn @
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 01:53 PM)johnbragg Wrote: It's possible that, once a split was happening, Aresco wants it as soon as possible. If he plans to sell us the name, there's no point to the incoming schools rebranding two years in a row--might as well roll out the Big 11/Metro Conference/Conference America this spring.
It's also possible that Aresco thought he could make his schools more money in over the whole contract by lowballing the 2013-14 basketball contract. He didn't get very much money though, so I'm not sure how that was supposed to work.
Well if we do leave after this season and take the name do they get to keep their BCS AQ for that last season?
|
|
02-26-2013 03:16 PM |
|
Melky Cabrera
Bill Bradley
Posts: 4,716
Joined: Aug 2011
Reputation: 100
I Root For: UConn
Location:
|
RE: Blaudschun--C-7 2013 Exit Still On The Table.
(02-26-2013 03:16 PM)NJRedMan Wrote: (02-26-2013 01:53 PM)johnbragg Wrote: It's possible that, once a split was happening, Aresco wants it as soon as possible. If he plans to sell us the name, there's no point to the incoming schools rebranding two years in a row--might as well roll out the Big 11/Metro Conference/Conference America this spring.
It's also possible that Aresco thought he could make his schools more money in over the whole contract by lowballing the 2013-14 basketball contract. He didn't get very much money though, so I'm not sure how that was supposed to work.
Well if we do leave after this season and take the name do they get to keep their BCS AQ for that last season?
Of course they do.
|
|
02-26-2013 03:30 PM |
|