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B&BF, you do realize that if UAB truly needed more land to expand it could use imminent domain to gobble up more warehouses, old apartment buildings, & small businesses adjacent to the current campus... heck, as UAB just demonstrated a few weeks ago, they make good enough offers for real estate that imminent domain isn't even required.

Emminent Domain is usually a last resort due to the prolonged legal battles it often sets off. Check out the fight between George Sarris and the Kirklin Clinic over his 21st Street restaurant (now Newk's) which he WON. That process is effective some of the time, but not always, and UAB does care about its reputation as a good neighbor. It may be that in the case you cited, UAB added to the fair market value of the property the potential legal costs of a court fight and made a better offer in the first place. My concern is that even if UAB took everything in sight between 3rd Ave south to 11th and from I-65 to 20th street, it might still not be sufficient for all the ambitious projects they have in their long range plans. My impression is that the footprint of that area would still be only a fraction of either the UA or the AU campuses. I recall that UA started off in 1831 with a federal land award in the then state capital of two townships in that area for a state university - that's 72 square miles just for a start.

(02-24-2013 08:55 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 08:19 PM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 07:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 07:12 PM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 07:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  You seemed to be suggesting that Birmingham was doing UAB a favor by letting us play at Legion Field, and that UAB was somehow taking advantage of their kindness.

I made two counter points:

1. UAB is a paying tenant.

2. Birmingham doesn't have a long list of alternative tenants.

1. Paying doesn't equal profitable, if one does something for pay and doesn't realize a profit, yet they continue to do it, what is that called? Charity? It really doesn't matter what it's called but I would vote for favor, at least it implies a future return.

2. UAB's alternatives are? Seems to be a codependent relationship.

1. If Birmingham feels ill-used by UAB, they should say so.

2. I don't believe I suggested otherwise.

1. How does my opinion equate to Birmingham's feelings?
2. I didn't suggest that UAB wasn't a paying tenant but that didn't stop you from assuming it. As a matter of fact my original post was more concerning the slanderous representation on the neighborhood and it's citizens than UAB or the city.

1. I don't know what that means.

2. Likening UAB to a (your words) "disgruntled homeless guest" might have led me to assume that, yes. As far as Legion Field's condition and environs, I suggest scrolling back up to post #16 in this thread for my opinion on the subject.

1. It means my opinion has nothing to with how Birmingham feels since I don't represent Birmingham in any form or fashion. To my knowledge, the city of Birmingham hasn't posted any concerns on this board, I did.

2. Do not need to scroll because my original post was directed at another poster but as usual you injected your $.02, so I gave you your change back.

Thanks. I've got a kid about to start college and every little bit helps.

I don't remember this being designated your thread, but I'll stop posting in it if it bothers you.

Or maybe I won't.

Ax meet grinding wheel. WOW.

(02-25-2013 11:13 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Thanks. I've got a kid about to start college and every little bit helps.

I don't remember this being designated your thread, but I'll stop posting in it if it bothers you.

Or maybe I won't.

I am just having fun, you seem to take jabs at me from time to time so I jab back. That last post was meant to be a sarcastic backhanded compliment "Smaugs $.02". I have a kid in college so you have my sympathies.

(02-25-2013 11:28 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Ax meet grinding wheel. WOW.

and you never poke at MB

(02-24-2013 05:55 PM)UAB?IAB Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 05:42 PM)Matrix Wrote:  

(02-24-2013 01:27 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I don't see anyone else beating down Legion Field's door to be a regular tenant.

He's got a point there!

What point is that?

With all due respect, isn't it obvious after all these years?

After all our fuss over all these years, it still comes down to these choices:
A- Remain at Legion Field and gripe about it constantly until one of two things happen
#1- B'ham builds the MPF and UAB possibly / probably agrees to play its home games there, OR
#2- UAB builds its own OCS of whatever design and begins playing its home games there.

#2 can't even begin to happen until the system BOT grants its indulgence for our stadium plan. Is there ANY sign of that happening in this decade?

Another crazy thread. Who needs Blazersax?

(02-23-2013 09:32 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Stop that put UAB in a dome talk right now.

Playing on a rug was a concession I made grudgingly. Football was meant to be played under God's sky.

Dome are for people who play their football too damn far from the equator.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but off the top of my head, most domes I can think of are located in the south. The only ones I can really think of up north(again off the top of my head) are the Indianapolis Colts and Idaho Vandals. It is actually one of the big reasons I would like to see some of the SEC teams have to play some bowl games in cold weather areas. They claim their superiority over any Big Ten team, but always play in weather similar to what they were used to in the bowl season.

Minneapolis and Detroit have domed stadiums.

(02-25-2013 03:44 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Minneapolis and Detroit have domed stadiums.

Thank you, knew I was missing some, but I just didn't think there was any large correlation between domes and climate.

Northern Arizona and North Dakota State play in domes. East Tennessee State used to before they disbanded football.

Hey, just found this. Not sure how complete it is.

list of domed staddiums


Domed or Retractable roof

1 Cowboys Stadium
80,000
Arlington, Texas
United States

2 Millennium Stadium
74,500
Cardiff
Wales

3 University of Phoenix Stadium
73,719
Glendale, Arizona
United States

4 Mercedes-Benz Superdome
72,968
New Orleans, Louisiana
United States

5 Reliant Stadium
71,500
Houston, Texas
United States

6 Georgia Dome
71,228
Atlanta, Georgia
United States

7 Lucas Oil Stadium
70,000
Indianapolis, Indiana
United States

8 Esprit Arena
66,500
Düsseldorf
Germany

9 Montreal Olympic Stadium
66,308
Montreal, Quebec
Canada

10 Edward Jones Dome
66,000
St. Louis, Missouri
United States

11= Alamodome
65,000
San Antonio, Texas
United States

11= Ford Field
65,000
Detroit, Michigan
United States

13 Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome
64,111
Minneapolis, Minnesota
United States

14 Stadion Narodowy
58,145
Warszawa
Poland

15 Etihad Stadium
56,347
Melbourne
Australia

16 Stadionul Național
55,600
Bucharest
Romania

17 Tokyo Dome
55,000
Tokyo
Japan

18 BC Place
54,500
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

19 Friends Arena
54,329
Solna, Stockholm
Sweden

20 Safeco Field
54,097
Seattle, Washington
United States

21 Veltins-Arena
53,951
Gelsenkirchen
Germany

22 Sapporo Dome
53,845
Sapporo
Japan

23 Türk Telekom Arena
52,647
Istanbul
Turkey

24 Commerzbank-Arena
52,300
Frankfurt
Germany

25 Rogers Centre
52,230
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

26 Amsterdam ArenA
51,628
Amsterdam
Netherlands

27 LTU Arena
51,500
Düsseldorf
Germany

28 Stade Borne de l'Espoir
50,186
Lille
France

29 Carrier Dome
49,262
Syracuse, New York
United States

30 Chase Field
49,033
Phoenix, Arizona
United States

31 Tropicana Field
45,369
St. Petersburg, Florida
United States

32 Toyota Stadium
45,000
Toyota
Japan

33 Miller Park
42,200
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
United States

34 Minute Maid Park
40,950
Houston, Texas
United States

35 Nagoya Dome
40,500
Nagoya
Japan

36 Ōita Stadium
40,000
Ōita
Japan

37 Marlins Ballpark
37,000
Miami, Florida
United States

38 Osaka Dome
36,477
Osaka
Japan

39 Fukuoka Dome
35,695
Fukuoka
Japan

40 Seibu Dome
35,655
Tokorozawa
Japan

41 Ordos Stadium
35,107
Ordos
China

42 Parken Stadium
34,098
Copenhagen
Denmark

43 GelreDome
32,500
Arnhem
Netherlands

44 Nantong Stadium
32,244
Nantong
China

45 Forsyth Barr Stadium at University Plaza
30,748
Dunedin
New Zealand

46 Astana Arena
30,000
Astana
Kazakhstan

47 Tacoma Dome
23,000
Tacoma, Washington
United States

48 Fargodome
19,000
Fargo, North Dakota
United States

49 Walkup Skydome
16,230
Flagstaff, Arizona
United States

50 Kibbie Dome
16,000
Moscow, Idaho
United States

51 Alerus Center
13,500
Grand Forks, North Dakota
United States

52 Holt Arena
12,000
Pocatello, Idaho
United States

53= DakotaDome
10,000
Vermillion, South Dakota
United States

53= UNI-Dome
10,000
Cedar Falls, Iowa
United States

55 ETSU/Mountain States Health Alliance Athletic Center
8,539
Johnson City, Tennessee
United States

56 Superior Dome
8,432
Marquette, Michigan
United States

57 Round Valley Ensphere
5,500
Eagar, Arizona
United States

Only 57 state of the art stadiums according to some. Amazing.

It is generally a question of really hot or really cold. Heated dome instead of the frozen tundra, or air conditioned dome instead of 95 degrees with 90% humidity.

(02-25-2013 03:25 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  After all our fuss over all these years, it still comes down to these choices:
A- Remain at Legion Field and gripe about it constantly until one of two things happen
#1- B'ham builds the MPF and UAB possibly / probably agrees to play its home games there, OR
#2- UAB builds its own OCS of whatever design and begins playing its home games there.

#2 can't even begin to happen until the system BOT grants its indulgence for our stadium plan. Is there ANY sign of that happening in this decade?

To answer your question about #2, I don't think so, unless someone close to UAB with influence on this matter conveys otherwise. As for your #1, don't hold your breath, my friend. Too many social, political and economic hurdles to get over. What you've said about MAPS in recent postings still rings true to this day.

(02-25-2013 04:20 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Hey, just found this. Not sure how complete it is.

list of domed staddiums


Domed or Retractable roof

1 Cowboys Stadium
80,000
Arlington, Texas
United States

2 Millennium Stadium
74,500
Cardiff
Wales

3 University of Phoenix Stadium
73,719
Glendale, Arizona
United States

4 Mercedes-Benz Superdome
72,968
New Orleans, Louisiana
United States

5 Reliant Stadium
71,500
Houston, Texas
United States

6 Georgia Dome
71,228
Atlanta, Georgia
United States

7 Lucas Oil Stadium
70,000
Indianapolis, Indiana
United States

8 Esprit Arena
66,500
Düsseldorf
Germany

9 Montreal Olympic Stadium
66,308
Montreal, Quebec
Canada

10 Edward Jones Dome
66,000
St. Louis, Missouri
United States

11= Alamodome
65,000
San Antonio, Texas
United States

11= Ford Field
65,000
Detroit, Michigan
United States

13 Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome
64,111
Minneapolis, Minnesota
United States

14 Stadion Narodowy
58,145
Warszawa
Poland

15 Etihad Stadium
56,347
Melbourne
Australia

16 Stadionul Național
55,600
Bucharest
Romania

17 Tokyo Dome
55,000
Tokyo
Japan

18 BC Place
54,500
Vancouver, British Columbia
Canada

19 Friends Arena
54,329
Solna, Stockholm
Sweden

20 Safeco Field
54,097
Seattle, Washington
United States

21 Veltins-Arena
53,951
Gelsenkirchen
Germany

22 Sapporo Dome
53,845
Sapporo
Japan

23 Türk Telekom Arena
52,647
Istanbul
Turkey

24 Commerzbank-Arena
52,300
Frankfurt
Germany

25 Rogers Centre
52,230
Toronto, Ontario
Canada

26 Amsterdam ArenA
51,628
Amsterdam
Netherlands

27 LTU Arena
51,500
Düsseldorf
Germany

28 Stade Borne de l'Espoir
50,186
Lille
France

29 Carrier Dome
49,262
Syracuse, New York
United States

30 Chase Field
49,033
Phoenix, Arizona
United States

31 Tropicana Field
45,369
St. Petersburg, Florida
United States

32 Toyota Stadium
45,000
Toyota
Japan

33 Miller Park
42,200
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
United States

34 Minute Maid Park
40,950
Houston, Texas
United States

35 Nagoya Dome
40,500
Nagoya
Japan

36 Ōita Stadium
40,000
Ōita
Japan

37 Marlins Ballpark
37,000
Miami, Florida
United States

38 Osaka Dome
36,477
Osaka
Japan

39 Fukuoka Dome
35,695
Fukuoka
Japan

40 Seibu Dome
35,655
Tokorozawa
Japan

41 Ordos Stadium
35,107
Ordos
China

42 Parken Stadium
34,098
Copenhagen
Denmark

43 GelreDome
32,500
Arnhem
Netherlands

44 Nantong Stadium
32,244
Nantong
China

45 Forsyth Barr Stadium at University Plaza
30,748
Dunedin
New Zealand

46 Astana Arena
30,000
Astana
Kazakhstan

47 Tacoma Dome
23,000
Tacoma, Washington
United States

48 Fargodome
19,000
Fargo, North Dakota
United States

49 Walkup Skydome
16,230
Flagstaff, Arizona
United States

50 Kibbie Dome
16,000
Moscow, Idaho
United States

51 Alerus Center
13,500
Grand Forks, North Dakota
United States

52 Holt Arena
12,000
Pocatello, Idaho
United States

53= DakotaDome
10,000
Vermillion, South Dakota
United States

53= UNI-Dome
10,000
Cedar Falls, Iowa
United States

55 ETSU/Mountain States Health Alliance Athletic Center
8,539
Johnson City, Tennessee
United States

56 Superior Dome
8,432
Marquette, Michigan
United States

57 Round Valley Ensphere
5,500
Eagar, Arizona
United States

I still can't believe Arthur Blank wants to tear down and replace the Ga Dome - and have the city of Atlanta pay for both...

@WesternBlazer: I would really hate for Atlanta to tear down the Georgia Dome. That place still has "it"...Been there at least a half dozen times in my life, really love that facility. Wish Birmingham could buy it and have it shipped here, albeit totally impossible. I couldn't believe that Detroit sold the SilverDome for $500,000. How much was it worth at its' infancy, I wonder?

I also wonder how much Legion Field is worth today & how much the city would say they wanted for it if someone were to actually want to purchase it and take it off the Birmingham's hands(hypothetical - :wingedeagle:no one in his/her right mind would purchase that place)...