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RE: If this is true, Obama needs to be removed from office immediately
Funny how no one (like Smaug) is asking for evidence of the initial assertion made by the original post.
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(02-22-2013 02:32 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Funny how no one (like Smaug) is asking for evidence of the initial assertion made by the original post.

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(02-22-2013 09:38 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Apparently the VA is now denying veterans the opportunity to purchase weapons.

I'm sorry, but they are clearly up to something!!!

They are trying to strip anyone capable of defending against a government takeover from any possible resistance they might be able to offer. There is literally no other possible explanation that makes any sense at all.

Between this, the stripping of the 2nd amendment, the approved use of drones, the purchase of 1.6 billion bullets by DHS, the newly granted ability of DHS to search anyone in a "border state", it's clear Obama is trying to push us towards a socialist globalist government/police state. Socialists and communists LOVE police states.

This is absolutely no different than how democracy has died in every other country in recorded history that got turned into a socialist/ fascist nation.

Even the purposeful collapse of the economy plays it's role. How can ANYONE support this????

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/...-firearms/

and yet most of the police states have been right wing dictatorships
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(02-22-2013 05:51 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 09:38 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Apparently the VA is now denying veterans the opportunity to purchase weapons.

I'm sorry, but they are clearly up to something!!!

They are trying to strip anyone capable of defending against a government takeover from any possible resistance they might be able to offer. There is literally no other possible explanation that makes any sense at all.

Between this, the stripping of the 2nd amendment, the approved use of drones, the purchase of 1.6 billion bullets by DHS, the newly granted ability of DHS to search anyone in a "border state", it's clear Obama is trying to push us towards a socialist globalist government/police state. Socialists and communists LOVE police states.

This is absolutely no different than how democracy has died in every other country in recorded history that got turned into a socialist/ fascist nation.

Even the purposeful collapse of the economy plays it's role. How can ANYONE support this????

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/...-firearms/

and yet most of the police states have been right wing dictatorships

You just forgot about all the lovely little communist paradises of the 20th century. Soviet Union, Communist China, North Korea, Cambodia, Romania, Hungry, Poland, East Germany, ect, ect, ect.......None could have been described as "right wing".

Bottom line is extremism on either side breeds police states and tyranny.
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(02-22-2013 11:08 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Wait, are we now seriously discussing whether or not someone deemed mentally ill should be able to buy firearms?
A person can have mental problems without being mentally ill.

(02-22-2013 11:15 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:13 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:05 AM)jh Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 10:04 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 09:59 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Don't we put folks in mental facilities for that very reason?
As far as I know, we don't put adults in facilities unless they themselves sign off on it or they have committed a crime, in which case a judge does have that leeway. We are not and should not be a society that just locks people up because someone thinks they are nuts. That is pretty much exactly how Hitler and Stalin were able to consolidate power. If you are willing to compromise freedom in the name of security, you get neither.

Civil commitment is allowed in this country. As its name implies this is a civil procedure unrelated to any previous violation of criminal law. Perhaps its most common use is with people deemed to be sex predators, who are civilly committed not because of their past crimes (it happens after they would have been released from prison) but because the danger they will commit future crimes. It is also used for the mentally ill and developmentally disabled.
http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/l...-standards

It appears the Brady Bill prohibits a certain class of mental ill people to be prohibited from owning firearms. The letters seem to be telling the veterans that if they are deemed incomptent (to the extent that a fiduciary need be appointed to handle their VA benefits) they will fall into this category. It also gives them the opportunity to present additional evidence and request a hearing. You can (barely) read a full copy of one of the letters here:
http://redflagnews.com/headlines/disarmi...ammunition

I have no idea how many veterans are getting these letters and I have no idea how good the evidence they based their preliminary determination is. Given it's a government operation I suspect it's rife with errors, including veterans who are in no way incompetant receiveing letters, but it will take a little more to convince me it's a nefarious government plot.

I do know one thing... if I came back from combat and was disturbed by what happened there, I wouldn't bother seeking help for this very reason. If what you say about civil commitment is true, that is blatently Unamerican and Unconstitutional.

No it's not. There is due process involved. Before you can be committed to a mental institution against your will, a hearing before a judge is required. This stuff has been going on for a hundred years. Why all of a sudden are we ready to storm the castle gates about it? What is it about Obama that sets you people off so bad?
His smile, his forked tongue, his lies, his lies, his lies, his incompetence, his flagrant disregard for our Constitution, ......you do realize that I could go on for page after page, correct?

(02-22-2013 11:45 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:08 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Wait, are we now seriously discussing whether or not someone deemed mentally ill should be able to buy firearms?

There is no objective way to determine if someone is "mentally ill".
Different areas of the country have different requirements. Unless you voluntarily go in for observation it normally would take two doctors agreeing and signing off on your being held for observation, normally a judge would need to observe you or have testimony about you to make a longer observation and/or treatment period. Having a close relative sign off on it helps the court determine many times.
(02-22-2013 12:01 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  We are agruing:
1. At what threshold should someone be too mentally incompetant to bear arms?
2. Can that be objectively defined and tested?
3. How can you legislate a ban without violating constitutional rights and due process of those who, in the spirit of the defined "mental incompetance", do and do not in fact fall outside the definition? In other words, guarantee the constitutional right to bear arms for every mentally competant US Citizen who passes the criminal background check.

My argument is that it can't be done since, no matter how you slice it, it will always comedown to someone's subjective opinion, be it a judge, a shrink, a family member, or a bureaucrat.

Think of people, for instance, going into the Betty Ford Clinic as having actually a mental problem for alcoholism. Would you demand their gun rights to be taken away? At the same time you wouldn't want them to be holding a gun on you drunk.

It could be brain trauma that causes a mental problem.
Many people caught in constant artillery barrages have problems that they cannot stop for the rest of their lives. Seen pictures of soldiers that would hide under their beds and shake like crazy.

There are many forms of mental problems, only some are caused by mental illness. Some say that everyone has mental problems in fact.

Working on a third degree, in Psychology, I have seen people that are mentally ill. Many cannot be cured, only controlled to some point.

(Sorry I didn't answer some people's response to my previous posting on this thread, but I was gone and tied up for several hours.)
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I see Razor is being is usual self - taking something and blowing it up out of context.

Mentally disabled people of any stripe can't own firearms.

Do you really want a person that can't manage their own simple affairs owning weapons?

No.

There was nothing in that letter that is alarming to anyone with a brain.
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(02-22-2013 07:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  I see Razor is being is usual self - taking something and blowing it up out of context.

Mentally disabled people of any stripe can't own firearms.

Do you really want a person that can't manage their own simple affairs owning weapons?

No.

There was nothing in that letter that is alarming to anyone with a brain.

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Um, and if he/she's mentally sound, and has a physical condition that can keep him/her from going to the bank?

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(02-22-2013 09:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Um, and if he/she's mentally sound, and has a physical condition that can keep him/her from going to the bank?

(Second sentence under "What information did we receive?", page 1)

The word incompetent was used. You can still manage your finances if you can not make it to the bank. I think this is just Razor Ramon trying to stir things up in his douche tool manner. I'm sure that he's a winner in life. 05-stirthepot
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(02-22-2013 05:51 PM)Theodoresdaddy Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 09:38 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Apparently the VA is now denying veterans the opportunity to purchase weapons.

I'm sorry, but they are clearly up to something!!!

They are trying to strip anyone capable of defending against a government takeover from any possible resistance they might be able to offer. There is literally no other possible explanation that makes any sense at all.

Between this, the stripping of the 2nd amendment, the approved use of drones, the purchase of 1.6 billion bullets by DHS, the newly granted ability of DHS to search anyone in a "border state", it's clear Obama is trying to push us towards a socialist globalist government/police state. Socialists and communists LOVE police states.

This is absolutely no different than how democracy has died in every other country in recorded history that got turned into a socialist/ fascist nation.

Even the purposeful collapse of the economy plays it's role. How can ANYONE support this????

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/02/...-firearms/

and yet most of the police states have been right wing dictatorships

False. Completely and utterly false.

Mao, Stalin, hitler etc. we're all left wing socialists. Learn your history.
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(02-22-2013 07:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  I see Razor is being is usual self - taking something and blowing it up out of context.

Mentally disabled people of any stripe can't own firearms.

Do you really want a person that can't manage their own simple affairs owning weapons?

No.

There was nothing in that letter that is alarming to anyone with a brain.

I sincerely hope your fat tits prevent you from owning a firearm. You clearly can't manage your own affairs as shown by your disgusting flabby body and inability to put down a fork.

Also you are a deviant as shown by your personal preference in men (at least you would have been according to the government you sooooo love only a half century ago). Would you support your 2nd amendment rights being stripped because of these facts? Didnt think so.

You disgust me in a multitude of ways.
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(02-23-2013 08:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 09:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Um, and if he/she's mentally sound, and has a physical condition that can keep him/her from going to the bank?

(Second sentence under "What information did we receive?", page 1)

The word incompetent was used. You can still manage your finances if you can not make it to the bank. I think this is just Razor Ramon trying to stir things up in his ****** tool manner. I'm sure that he's a winner in life. 05-stirthepot

The guy who has a picture of a giant pink n.tsack in his signature is questioning whether someone else is a winner?? Fannnnnnntastic. Look at the complete and utter wastes of life on your side. You, Robert, dbagjon, Tom.....it's a veritable who's who of underachieving and sadness.

The fact that you question whether I'm a winner in life makes me laugh uncontrollably, I p.ss excellence and you espouse garbage with every new post. I've crapped turds that have accomplished far more in life than you ever can or will. That's why you vote for Obama, because you've achieved nothing of note with your life that you want to keep to yourself. That's shy you are fine with the government taking from the "haves".
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(02-22-2013 06:11 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:08 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Wait, are we now seriously discussing whether or not someone deemed mentally ill should be able to buy firearms?
A person can have mental problems without being mentally ill.

(02-22-2013 11:15 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:13 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:05 AM)jh Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 10:04 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  As far as I know, we don't put adults in facilities unless they themselves sign off on it or they have committed a crime, in which case a judge does have that leeway. We are not and should not be a society that just locks people up because someone thinks they are nuts. That is pretty much exactly how Hitler and Stalin were able to consolidate power. If you are willing to compromise freedom in the name of security, you get neither.

Civil commitment is allowed in this country. As its name implies this is a civil procedure unrelated to any previous violation of criminal law. Perhaps its most common use is with people deemed to be sex predators, who are civilly committed not because of their past crimes (it happens after they would have been released from prison) but because the danger they will commit future crimes. It is also used for the mentally ill and developmentally disabled.
http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/l...-standards

It appears the Brady Bill prohibits a certain class of mental ill people to be prohibited from owning firearms. The letters seem to be telling the veterans that if they are deemed incomptent (to the extent that a fiduciary need be appointed to handle their VA benefits) they will fall into this category. It also gives them the opportunity to present additional evidence and request a hearing. You can (barely) read a full copy of one of the letters here:
http://redflagnews.com/headlines/disarmi...ammunition

I have no idea how many veterans are getting these letters and I have no idea how good the evidence they based their preliminary determination is. Given it's a government operation I suspect it's rife with errors, including veterans who are in no way incompetant receiveing letters, but it will take a little more to convince me it's a nefarious government plot.

I do know one thing... if I came back from combat and was disturbed by what happened there, I wouldn't bother seeking help for this very reason. If what you say about civil commitment is true, that is blatently Unamerican and Unconstitutional.

No it's not. There is due process involved. Before you can be committed to a mental institution against your will, a hearing before a judge is required. This stuff has been going on for a hundred years. Why all of a sudden are we ready to storm the castle gates about it? What is it about Obama that sets you people off so bad?
His smile, his forked tongue, his lies, his lies, his lies, his incompetence, his flagrant disregard for our Constitution, ......you do realize that I could go on for page after page, correct?

(02-22-2013 11:45 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 11:08 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Wait, are we now seriously discussing whether or not someone deemed mentally ill should be able to buy firearms?

There is no objective way to determine if someone is "mentally ill".
Different areas of the country have different requirements. Unless you voluntarily go in for observation it normally would take two doctors agreeing and signing off on your being held for observation, normally a judge would need to observe you or have testimony about you to make a longer observation and/or treatment period. Having a close relative sign off on it helps the court determine many times.
(02-22-2013 12:01 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  We are agruing:
1. At what threshold should someone be too mentally incompetant to bear arms?
2. Can that be objectively defined and tested?
3. How can you legislate a ban without violating constitutional rights and due process of those who, in the spirit of the defined "mental incompetance", do and do not in fact fall outside the definition? In other words, guarantee the constitutional right to bear arms for every mentally competant US Citizen who passes the criminal background check.

My argument is that it can't be done since, no matter how you slice it, it will always comedown to someone's subjective opinion, be it a judge, a shrink, a family member, or a bureaucrat.

Think of people, for instance, going into the Betty Ford Clinic as having actually a mental problem for alcoholism. Would you demand their gun rights to be taken away? At the same time you wouldn't want them to be holding a gun on you drunk.

It could be brain trauma that causes a mental problem.
Many people caught in constant artillery barrages have problems that they cannot stop for the rest of their lives. Seen pictures of soldiers that would hide under their beds and shake like crazy.

There are many forms of mental problems, only some are caused by mental illness. Some say that everyone has mental problems in fact.

Working on a third degree, in Psychology, I have seen people that are mentally ill. Many cannot be cured, only controlled to some point.

(Sorry I didn't answer some people's response to my previous posting on this thread, but I was gone and tied up for several hours.)

So in other words, since every state has different requirements, there is no objective way to determine mental competence. This has been determined by legislators, bureaucrats, judges, and shrinks. You cannot guarantee me that you can write legislation banning guns from the mentally incompetent while each and every mentality competent citizen retains their rights. You even went down the slippery slope suggesting taking away rights for those who have sought help for addiction. All I am saying is we need to think and not knee jerk react.

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(02-23-2013 08:25 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 07:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  I see Razor is being is usual self - taking something and blowing it up out of context.

Mentally disabled people of any stripe can't own firearms.

Do you really want a person that can't manage their own simple affairs owning weapons?

No.

There was nothing in that letter that is alarming to anyone with a brain.

I sincerely hope your fat tits prevent you from owning a firearm. You clearly can't manage your own affairs as shown by your disgusting flabby body and inability to put down a fork.

Also you are a deviant as shown by your personal preference in men (at least you would have been according to the government you sooooo love only a half century ago). Would you support your 2nd amendment rights being stripped because of these facts? Didnt think so.

You disgust me in a multitude of ways.

You actually make a good point in this. Psychology is not only inexact and unprovable, but it is fluid and subject to trends. As pointed out, 50 years ago, homosexuality was considered a mental illness and gun legislation could have disqualified them from their 2nd amendment rights, particularly if they ever sought help.

I am in no way trying to dis psychology... it helps a lot of people... but it is inexact, theory based, and subject to trends. If one goes in for depression, it is declared a chemical imbalance and different combinations of meds are given until one and ones shrink get a warm fuzzy. There is nothing exact about it. Some people are helped immensely and are pillars of society, while some battle and seek the right combination for the rest of their lives, while some are just full of crap and looking for Xanex to sell or snort.

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(02-23-2013 08:31 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 08:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 09:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Um, and if he/she's mentally sound, and has a physical condition that can keep him/her from going to the bank?

(Second sentence under "What information did we receive?", page 1)

The word incompetent was used. You can still manage your finances if you can not make it to the bank. I think this is just Razor Ramon trying to stir things up in his ****** tool manner. I'm sure that he's a winner in life. 05-stirthepot

The guy who has a picture of a giant pink n.tsack in his signature is questioning whether someone else is a winner?? Fannnnnnntastic. Look at the complete and utter wastes of life on your side. You, Robert, dbagjon, Tom.....it's a veritable who's who of underachieving and sadness.

The fact that you question whether I'm a winner in life makes me laugh uncontrollably, I p.ss excellence and you espouse garbage with every new post. I've crapped turds that have accomplished far more in life than you ever can or will. That's why you vote for Obama, because you've achieved nothing of note with your life that you want to keep to yourself. That's shy you are fine with the government taking from the "haves".


Keep posting and proving my point.
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(02-23-2013 09:28 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 08:25 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 07:13 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  I see Razor is being is usual self - taking something and blowing it up out of context.

Mentally disabled people of any stripe can't own firearms.

Do you really want a person that can't manage their own simple affairs owning weapons?

No.

There was nothing in that letter that is alarming to anyone with a brain.

I sincerely hope your fat tits prevent you from owning a firearm. You clearly can't manage your own affairs as shown by your disgusting flabby body and inability to put down a fork.

Also you are a deviant as shown by your personal preference in men (at least you would have been according to the government you sooooo love only a half century ago). Would you support your 2nd amendment rights being stripped because of these facts? Didnt think so.

You disgust me in a multitude of ways.

You actually make a good point in this. Psychology is not only inexact and unprovable, but it is fluid and subject to trends. As pointed out, 50 years ago, homosexuality was considered a mental illness and gun legislation could have disqualified them from their 2nd amendment rights, particularly if they ever sought help.

I am in no way trying to dis psychology... it helps a lot of people... but it is inexact, theory based, and subject to trends. If one goes in for depression, it is declared a chemical imbalance and different combinations of meds are given until one and ones shrink get a warm fuzzy. There is nothing exact about it. Some people are helped immensely and are pillars of society, while some battle and seek the right combination for the rest of their lives, while some are just full of crap and looking for Xanex to sell or snort.

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I know exactly the point I was trying to make.

I'm 100% positive Thomas Jefferson and the other founding fathers did NOT write the second amendment only to eventually to turn the right to own a gun over to a psychologist, especially a psychologist appointed by the federal government.

That would absolutely make them roll over in their graves.
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(02-23-2013 09:32 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 08:31 AM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  
(02-23-2013 08:00 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(02-22-2013 09:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Um, and if he/she's mentally sound, and has a physical condition that can keep him/her from going to the bank?

(Second sentence under "What information did we receive?", page 1)

The word incompetent was used. You can still manage your finances if you can not make it to the bank. I think this is just Razor Ramon trying to stir things up in his ****** tool manner. I'm sure that he's a winner in life. 05-stirthepot

The guy who has a picture of a giant pink n.tsack in his signature is questioning whether someone else is a winner?? Fannnnnnntastic. Look at the complete and utter wastes of life on your side. You, Robert, dbagjon, Tom.....it's a veritable who's who of underachieving and sadness.

The fact that you question whether I'm a winner in life makes me laugh uncontrollably, I p.ss excellence and you espouse garbage with every new post. I've crapped turds that have accomplished far more in life than you ever can or will. That's why you vote for Obama, because you've achieved nothing of note with your life that you want to keep to yourself. That's shy you are fine with the government taking from the "haves".


Keep posting and proving my point.

Keep posting and proving mine, I love being right.
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(02-22-2013 09:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Um, and if he/she's mentally sound, and has a physical condition that can keep him/her from going to the bank?

(Second sentence under "What information did we receive?", page 1)


Then he would not be mentally incompetent, and could manage his own affairs
02-23-2013 10:21 AM
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RE: If this is true, Obama needs to be removed from office immediately
I'm really disappointed in Smaug in this debate. He used to be a reasonable righty, but he's hung around this place too long. Which actually makes me kind of sad, that is exactly what's happening in the greater world and people are just getting more extreme on both sides. Only after 15 years of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. would a group of people be arguing whether or not we should prevent mentally ill people from buying firearms.
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RE: If this is true, Obama needs to be removed from office immediately
You wound me, sir.

I don't believe I advocated the mentally ill having firearms, or argued against the prohibition of them to do so.
BTW, I don't listen to either of those people, nor talk radio much in general.

BTW, I don't listen to either of those guys, or much talk radio in general.

I've got sufficient irritants in my life that I don't seek out any extra (unless you count internet message boards).
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