(02-19-2013 10:01 PM)XLance Wrote:  There are only two locked threads on the Carolina premium scout board and neither of them have anything to do with the B1G.

It was on the free board. Since I can't read premium threads on the UNC board I'm not going to even check out the premium side.

So whats up XLance, this just rubbish or are there legs? I'm leaning towards the former.

Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

(02-19-2013 08:36 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:01 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 07:16 PM)PhiladelphiaVT Wrote:  UNC/B1G is just the rumor of the week. First it was FSU and Clemson to the B12. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia Tech to the SEC. Didn't happen. Then it was Georgia Tech to the B1G. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia to the B1G. Didn't happen. Today it's UNC to the B1G. Won't happen. At this rate theyll soon have Wake Forest to the PAC12. Too many people are having too much fun speculating about the imminent collapse of the ACC--so don't expect the rumors to end anytime soon.

Sooner or later these WVU "insiders" will be predicting their beloved Mountaineers will join the NFC East just to get attention.

Buddy this is your board and I respect that but this has gone WAY beyond WVU insiders at this point. Leave us out of it.

When I see a response like this I wonder if you folks are even capable of critical thinking. First of all, what do you mean by it has "gone WAY beyond other WVU insiders at this point"? Leaving aside the whole question as to just what is a "WVU [fan] insider", all we have here is another little-known blogger making statements that they quickly distance themselves from once people start talking about it. No sources. No attribution. Just someone stating their opinion.

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. In all of the cases where there was an actual story about team's who DID move to other conferences, the legitimate media outlets quickly had the story and quickly confirmed it. If that does not happen here, then this is BS, IMO.

2. Pretty much everyone pushing this story have no connection to UNC. From UNC itself, there is no evidence whatsoever that they intend to leave the ACC...ditto for UVA. Maybe these folks should wait to get some sort of sign form the schools themselves before presuming THEY know what is important to UNC or UVA.

This pattern is so stupidly familiar. Same people were reporting that FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC was a DONE DEAL. How did that turn out?

This all so laughable.

(02-19-2013 10:33 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

Why do you think I posted this. If if was The Dude I would've easily ignored and not cared.

(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:33 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

Why do you think I posted this. If if was The Dude I would've easily ignored and not cared.

You haven't learned yet, have you?

(02-19-2013 11:48 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:33 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

Why do you think I posted this. If if was The Dude I would've easily ignored and not cared.

You haven't learned yet, have you?

Learned what?

(02-19-2013 11:48 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:33 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

Why do you think I posted this. If if was The Dude I would've easily ignored and not cared.

You haven't learned yet, have you?

(02-19-2013 11:51 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:48 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:33 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

Why do you think I posted this. If if was The Dude I would've easily ignored and not cared.

You haven't learned yet, have you?

Learned what?

Same ole' same ole'. Same butthurt morons running with nothing.
https://twitter.com/DavidTeelatDP/status...6376527872

(02-20-2013 12:16 AM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:51 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:48 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 11:23 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:33 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Someone said it's the same MD site that either first reported or was one of the first to break the UMD to Big Ten news. The guy sure as sh*t isn't some WVU clown you [persons] like to make fun of.

Why do you think I posted this. If if was The Dude I would've easily ignored and not cared.

You haven't learned yet, have you?

Learned what?

Same ole' same ole'. Same butthurt morons running with nothing.
https://twitter.com/DavidTeelatDP/status...6376527872

I saw those tweets plus the Matt Hayes tweets.

I figured it was nothing after surfing UNC Boards. I was just having some fun on a boring night at work. :muttering:

The way to tell whether expansion is going to happen is to follow the money. It usually is a good indicator for whether something is going to happen. With the B1G Network and the new SEC TV network out there it is to their advantage to get more cable subscribers. The B1G renegotiates their TV contract in 2017 so changes could happen in the next few years but a lot is dependant on how their efforts are in getting on basic cable in New York city, Philadelphia and Washington. If they cannot get on basic cable in those cities then look for them to either try and augment their reason for getting on cable (i.e.- by getting Syracuse and Virginia) or perhaps they might go for a new market like North Carolina.
Same thing for the SEC, it depends on how their TV network goes.

Jeff Ermann @insidemdsports 4h

Seems to be some confusion. So it's clear, I've reported nothing to the effect that UNC is Big 10-bound; just that Big 10 wants the Heels.


So, is this really "news"?

(02-19-2013 10:39 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:36 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:01 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 07:16 PM)PhiladelphiaVT Wrote:  UNC/B1G is just the rumor of the week. First it was FSU and Clemson to the B12. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia Tech to the SEC. Didn't happen. Then it was Georgia Tech to the B1G. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia to the B1G. Didn't happen. Today it's UNC to the B1G. Won't happen. At this rate theyll soon have Wake Forest to the PAC12. Too many people are having too much fun speculating about the imminent collapse of the ACC--so don't expect the rumors to end anytime soon.

Sooner or later these WVU "insiders" will be predicting their beloved Mountaineers will join the NFC East just to get attention.

Buddy this is your board and I respect that but this has gone WAY beyond WVU insiders at this point. Leave us out of it.

When I see a response like this I wonder if you folks are even capable of critical thinking. First of all, what do you mean by it has "gone WAY beyond other WVU insiders at this point"? Leaving aside the whole question as to just what is a "WVU [fan] insider", all we have here is another little-known blogger making statements that they quickly distance themselves from once people start talking about it. No sources. No attribution. Just someone stating their opinion.

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. In all of the cases where there was an actual story about team's who DID move to other conferences, the legitimate media outlets quickly had the story and quickly confirmed it. If that does not happen here, then this is BS, IMO.

2. Pretty much everyone pushing this story have no connection to UNC. From UNC itself, there is no evidence whatsoever that they intend to leave the ACC...ditto for UVA. Maybe these folks should wait to get some sort of sign form the schools themselves before presuming THEY know what is important to UNC or UVA.

This pattern is so stupidly familiar. Same people were reporting that FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC was a DONE DEAL. How did that turn out?

This all so laughable.

+3 Spot on! There are two trues in all this realignment BS:

1) These conferences are stable:

2) These conferences are unstable:

The New Big East is not only unstable, it is no longer a power conference, it is Mid-Major at best!

The Big 12 is endanger of being raided by the PAC 12 and/or the BIG! The only Eastern teams desperate enough right now to play in the West are West Virginia, Cincinnati, UConn, Temple, South Florida, Central Florida and Memphis!

The real question is when does the ACC go to 16 teams?
Does the ACC wait for Notre Dame or add two teams now?
Does the ACC add Navy/Notre Dame, plus UConn or Cincinnati or West Virgina?

In conclusion, the New Big East is a joke and dead in the water conference. The Big 12 is still the endanger conference. The ACC is in great shape, I do not care what the talking heads or the haters say. West Virginia would leave tomorrow for the ACC, if asked!

(02-19-2013 08:45 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:39 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Yeah, it's some random UMD guy right now.

And Matt Hayes and McMurphy and B1G athletic directors and B1G Network employees....

ACC destruction... a hoopie's wet dream!

we were left out!

Honestly if 16 is no longer the cap I see no way ND's membership influences going to 16. The question that remains, however, is are there 2 schools worth taking right now.

I just wish the non-ACC fans would stick to posting on either their conference forums or the CR forum when it comes to this stuff. If I wanted to read the latest 'ACC SUCKS AND IS SO GOING DOWN' news I would do so over there. I come here to this particular forum to avoid it.

I think a lot of the message board assumptions aren't going to come to pass. I think if UVA is looking to leave that they will try to get UNC and VT to go with them. UNC will want Duke with them. NCSU will have to have a place worked out too. I think the four of UNC, Duke, UVA, and VT will either stay together in the ACC or go to the next conference together. The 'one team per state' rule is overblown.

I could see those four schools along with GT and FSU going to the Big10 together. I don't think any of them have a motivation to leave their alumni base and recruiting area if they don't have to. There needs to be more than one or two invited before the situation becomes more appealing.

(02-20-2013 09:00 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:39 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:36 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:01 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 07:16 PM)PhiladelphiaVT Wrote:  UNC/B1G is just the rumor of the week. First it was FSU and Clemson to the B12. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia Tech to the SEC. Didn't happen. Then it was Georgia Tech to the B1G. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia to the B1G. Didn't happen. Today it's UNC to the B1G. Won't happen. At this rate theyll soon have Wake Forest to the PAC12. Too many people are having too much fun speculating about the imminent collapse of the ACC--so don't expect the rumors to end anytime soon.

Sooner or later these WVU "insiders" will be predicting their beloved Mountaineers will join the NFC East just to get attention.

Buddy this is your board and I respect that but this has gone WAY beyond WVU insiders at this point. Leave us out of it.

When I see a response like this I wonder if you folks are even capable of critical thinking. First of all, what do you mean by it has "gone WAY beyond other WVU insiders at this point"? Leaving aside the whole question as to just what is a "WVU [fan] insider", all we have here is another little-known blogger making statements that they quickly distance themselves from once people start talking about it. No sources. No attribution. Just someone stating their opinion.

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. In all of the cases where there was an actual story about team's who DID move to other conferences, the legitimate media outlets quickly had the story and quickly confirmed it. If that does not happen here, then this is BS, IMO.

2. Pretty much everyone pushing this story have no connection to UNC. From UNC itself, there is no evidence whatsoever that they intend to leave the ACC...ditto for UVA. Maybe these folks should wait to get some sort of sign form the schools themselves before presuming THEY know what is important to UNC or UVA.

This pattern is so stupidly familiar. Same people were reporting that FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC was a DONE DEAL. How did that turn out?

This all so laughable.

+3 Spot on! There are two trues in all this realignment BS:

1) These conferences are stable:

The BIG
The SEC
The PAC 12
The ACC

2) These conferences are unstable:

The New Big East is not only unstable, it is no longer a power conference, it is Mid-Major at best!

The Big 12 is endanger of being raided by the PAC 12 and/or the BIG! The only Eastern teams desperate enough right now to play in the West are West Virginia, Cincinnati, UConn, Temple, South Florida, Central Florida and Memphis!

The real question is when does the ACC go to 16 teams?
Does the ACC wait for Notre Dame or add two teams now?
Does the ACC add Navy/Notre Dame, plus UConn or Cincinnati or West Virgina?

In conclusion, the New Big East is a joke and dead in the water conference. The Big 12 is still the endanger conference. The ACC is in great shape, I do not care what the talking heads or the haters say. West Virginia would leave tomorrow for the ACC, if asked!

NO! If the ACC added Navy, it would be because ND said that they would join all in if the ACC added Navy fb. The ACC wouldn't add Navy football to replace ND football's spot and then add a full member, so ND/Navy + UCONN, UC, or WVU would never happen. It would be ND + Navy/Georgetown. The Navy/Georgetown combo would act like a full member and, in that scenario, ND would be a full member, which would bring the ACC to an even 16 members in both football and basketball, and the ACC would not have more than 16 teams competing in any one sport.

(02-20-2013 01:40 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think a lot of the message board assumptions aren't going to come to pass. I think if UVA is looking to leave that they will try to get UNC and VT to go with them. UNC will want Duke with them. NCSU will have to have a place worked out too. I think the four of UNC, Duke, UVA, and VT will either stay together in the ACC or go to the next conference together. The 'one team per state' rule is overblown.

I could see those four schools along with GT and FSU going to the Big10 together. I don't think any of them have a motivation to leave their alumni base and recruiting area if they don't have to. There needs to be more than one or two invited before the situation becomes more appealing.

Even if the Big Ten invited ALL of those schools at once... I'm sorry, I'm just NOT INTERESTED in watching VT play a bunch of Mid-Western teams all the time. The only appealing B1G teams (to me) are: Ohio St, Michigan, Penn St and Nebraska. Of course, those are the only teams that other B1G teams get excited to play, too... who wants to play Purdue, Indiana (except in basketball), Illinois, Northwestern, etc.? And honestly, adding Maryland and Rutgers don't really make the B1G East any more appealing. I'd MUCH rather play Pitt, Miami, BC, and an occasional series against FSU, Clemson, NC State, Wake Forest, Syracuse or Louisville...
(honestly, I'd like to play FSU, Clemson and NC State EVERY year)

(02-20-2013 09:01 AM)7fielder Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:45 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:39 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Yeah, it's some random UMD guy right now.

And Matt Hayes and McMurphy and B1G athletic directors and B1G Network employees....

ACC destruction... a hoopie's wet dream!

we were left out!

Priceless...OldGoldnBlue gave me a negative rep point for this post.

Quote; If funny how yinzers can't see the writing on the wall.

Typical hoopie can't even insult me without showing his lack of education?

(02-20-2013 09:00 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 10:39 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:36 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 08:01 PM)gocards#1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 07:16 PM)PhiladelphiaVT Wrote:  UNC/B1G is just the rumor of the week. First it was FSU and Clemson to the B12. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia Tech to the SEC. Didn't happen. Then it was Georgia Tech to the B1G. Didn't happen. Then it was Virginia to the B1G. Didn't happen. Today it's UNC to the B1G. Won't happen. At this rate theyll soon have Wake Forest to the PAC12. Too many people are having too much fun speculating about the imminent collapse of the ACC--so don't expect the rumors to end anytime soon.

Sooner or later these WVU "insiders" will be predicting their beloved Mountaineers will join the NFC East just to get attention.

Buddy this is your board and I respect that but this has gone WAY beyond WVU insiders at this point. Leave us out of it.

When I see a response like this I wonder if you folks are even capable of critical thinking. First of all, what do you mean by it has "gone WAY beyond other WVU insiders at this point"? Leaving aside the whole question as to just what is a "WVU [fan] insider", all we have here is another little-known blogger making statements that they quickly distance themselves from once people start talking about it. No sources. No attribution. Just someone stating their opinion.

Here are a couple of suggestions:

1. In all of the cases where there was an actual story about team's who DID move to other conferences, the legitimate media outlets quickly had the story and quickly confirmed it. If that does not happen here, then this is BS, IMO.

2. Pretty much everyone pushing this story have no connection to UNC. From UNC itself, there is no evidence whatsoever that they intend to leave the ACC...ditto for UVA. Maybe these folks should wait to get some sort of sign form the schools themselves before presuming THEY know what is important to UNC or UVA.

This pattern is so stupidly familiar. Same people were reporting that FSU and Clemson leaving the ACC was a DONE DEAL. How did that turn out?

This all so laughable.

+3 Spot on! There are two trues in all this realignment BS:

1) These conferences are stable:

The BIG
The SEC
The PAC 12
The ACC

2) These conferences are unstable:

The New Big East is not only unstable, it is no longer a power conference, it is Mid-Major at best!

The Big 12 is endanger of being raided by the PAC 12 and/or the BIG! The only Eastern teams desperate enough right now to play in the West are West Virginia, Cincinnati, UConn, Temple, South Florida, Central Florida and Memphis!

The real question is when does the ACC go to 16 teams?
Does the ACC wait for Notre Dame or add two teams now?
Does the ACC add Navy/Notre Dame, plus UConn or Cincinnati or West Virgina?

In conclusion, the New Big East is a joke and dead in the water conference. The Big 12 is still the endanger conference. The ACC is in great shape, I do not care what the talking heads or the haters say. West Virginia would leave tomorrow for the ACC, if asked!

Wilkie01, do you think that Notre Dame would accept West Virginia as #16 or prefer Cincinnati?