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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
(02-19-2013 02:19 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 01:16 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 12:01 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Sadly, these comments are typical for a large portion of the "Tri-State"; most of whom have not even been to campus since the late 80s-early 90s. When I look at UC's conference predicament I blame nobody but the people who live in the community. The university and the athletic department has done its part.

"When in doubt, blame the customers." is the mantra of failed enterprises everywhere.

I do not see one's observations regarding the ignorance of Cincinnatians as "blaming the customers."

Then we have a comprehension issue amidst all this talk of "ignorance" and "mental midgets". How is saying: "I blame nobody but the people who live in the community." not blaming the (non)customers?

Quote:By the way - in our society "ignorance is not a defense" is the mantra relied upon by those who are well informed and not mental midgets.

Once again we have a comprehension issue. In our society, "Ignorance is not a defense" is typically applied to those who break a law or rule. Which law or rule have the "people who live in the community" broken with regard to UC by choosing to spend their time and/or money elsewhere? How exactly are "the people who live in the community" primarily responsible for "UC's conference predicament"?

By the way, are the "people who live in the community" also responsible for Xavier's "conference predicament"? What about Mt. St. Joe's? Cincinnati St.?
 
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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
It's Bush's fault isnt it?
 
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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
Regardless, I'm really looking forward to seeing some more concrete design plans...not to mention some heavy machinery around the Nipp.
 
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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
(02-19-2013 03:12 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  It's Bush's fault isnt it?

Him or Huggins! 03-lmfao
 
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I blame global warming Hawkeye
 
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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
(02-19-2013 03:08 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 02:19 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 01:16 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 12:01 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Sadly, these comments are typical for a large portion of the "Tri-State"; most of whom have not even been to campus since the late 80s-early 90s. When I look at UC's conference predicament I blame nobody but the people who live in the community. The university and the athletic department has done its part.

"When in doubt, blame the customers." is the mantra of failed enterprises everywhere.

I do not see one's observations regarding the ignorance of Cincinnatians as "blaming the customers."

Then we have a comprehension issue amidst all this talk of "ignorance" and "mental midgets". How is saying: "I blame nobody but the people who live in the community." not blaming the (non)customers?

Quote:By the way - in our society "ignorance is not a defense" is the mantra relied upon by those who are well informed and not mental midgets.

Once again we have a comprehension issue. In our society, "Ignorance is not a defense" is typically applied to those who break a law or rule. Which law or rule have the "people who live in the community" broken with regard to UC by choosing to spend their time and/or money elsewhere? How exactly are "the people who live in the community" primarily responsible for "UC's conference predicament"?

By the way, are the "people who live in the community" also responsible for Xavier's "conference predicament"? What about Mt. St. Joe's? Cincinnati St.?

Let me expand upon my original statement. I took the comment one step further to include the entire discussion above. Ignorance displayed in the community and perpetuating that ignorance is to blame. Examples, as stated above, lack of parking and an abnormal criminal atmosphere around campus.

In reality there is ample parking and crime has been overstated. Sure there could be closer parking. Again there is at least 1 if not 2 new public garages going in around campus. UC is an urban campus. Urban environments tend to have some level of crime. However, the levels have been grossly exaggerated.

"Ignorance is not a defense." You are correct - the phrase is typically applied to someone breaking the law. Unless I missed something, we are not applying this in the legal context but to societal behavior in general. "Ignorance is not a defense" should be adhered to by all in their dealings. One using a false statement as to why they do not come to Clifton, Hyde Park, Mt Adams, UC, Mt St Joe, X, ect... should be called on the carpet or educated. I just do not see how it's UC, X, or Mt St Joe's duty to battle every misconception of the public.

As for conference affiliation. I was not speaking to that specifically. I see Cliftonave spoke to it above. My personal opinion is the community and region are best served by UC being in the best conf possible.
 
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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
(02-19-2013 09:27 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 08:50 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  [/i]

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Tim O'toole · Top Commenter
With 50,000 they could attract LSU, ALABAMA,and even that team from Columbus. (OSU Bobcats)

That's when I stopped reading.
LSU, Alabama, Texas, Florida: OOC games. You play in their sandbox. They don't play in your sandbox. I don't care how big your stadium is. UC is using a very common sense approach to improving Nippert Stadium. 40K will be just fine for now.
 
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RE: UC to start designing Nippert expansion
(02-20-2013 08:42 AM)MrP3242 Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 09:27 AM)Coopdaddy67 Wrote:  
(02-19-2013 08:50 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  [/i]

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Tim O'toole · Top Commenter
With 50,000 they could attract LSU, ALABAMA,and even that team from Columbus. (OSU Bobcats)

That's when I stopped reading.
LSU, Alabama, Texas, Florida: OOC games. You play in their sandbox. They don't play in your sandbox. I don't care how big your stadium is. UC is using a very common sense approach to improving Nippert Stadium. 40K will be just fine for now.

agreed. We needed to spend the money on:

1. Revenue producing seats.
2. Making the fan experience better. I maintain the fan experience when Nip is 30k+ is lacking...people say there is no interest in UC football due to attendance but I point to the great travelling fan base we have (20k to orange, 30k to sugar, 15k to liberty, 12k+ to belk) and say BS to that thought. It is due to the fan experience which is difficult when near capacity. This upgrade addresses this.
 
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