(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

That's funny and pretty hard to top!

Looks like Tulsa is stuck here until 2015 according the jerseyguy

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

The way I see it, Memphis made a decision they feel is a good one and one that will help them, so they took the gamble of making the move feeling it would be worthwhile and certainly nobody faulting them for it is using reason too much. Time will tell as to how good a move it will turn out and I hope that it works out fine for Memphis. I have enjoyed the long relationship with Memphis and am grateful to what Memphis did for us after Katrina, so I wish them only good things. As for the posters, some really are acting bad, both Memphis biased posters and those who are not, and sadly they start to be generalized as the typical poster for their schools. You and I have been around a long time and we have seen things change dramatically, so I figure these people are just young and need to mature more to see how it really is.

(02-16-2013 12:20 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  I posted a gameday thread for Memphis@Marshall on the SEC board, but it got deleted.

Tallgrass, think you can help get it back up for us?

They certainly did send a message to you, didn't they?

(02-16-2013 01:54 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Looks like Tulsa is stuck here until 2015 according the jerseyguy

That's great! Regarding this lateral transfer, this will allow time to see if Nbe is even around in 2015. Tulsa can have a couple years of peace. Thanks for info, much appreciated.

(02-16-2013 10:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Just don't eat a bullet when Tulsa is added, ok?

Tallgrass's 15% Non-AQ TV thread is further proof he is an Okla. State fan first, not Tulsa.

(02-16-2013 02:01 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:54 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Looks like Tulsa is stuck here until 2015 according the jerseyguy

That's great! Regarding this lateral transfer, this will allow time to see if Nbe is even around in 2015. Tulsa can have a couple years of peace. Thanks for info, much appreciated.

I like Tulsa and respect their sports program. I certainly want them to stay just like I wished ECU and Memphis had stayed, but with Tulsa I have to admit my first love football, is better served by Tulsa. Memphis is improving in football and glad to see that, but Tulsa has become a very respectable football program that challenges all of the conference programs.

(02-16-2013 01:51 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  That's funny and pretty hard to top!

It seemed like such a perfect analogy, that it hit the "paper" exactly as it came to mind. When I reread it to ensure that it made sense, I cleaned up a couple of grammatical issues before I hit "post reply", but that was it. Even I laughed at a couple of points, particularly "they saw us coming and moved out."

(02-16-2013 01:56 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  The way I see it, Memphis made a decision they feel is a good one and one that will help them, so they took the gamble of making the move feeling it would be worthwhile and certainly nobody faulting them for it is using reason too much. Time will tell as to how good a move it will turn out and I hope that it works out fine for Memphis. I have enjoyed the long relationship with Memphis and am grateful to what Memphis did for us after Katrina, so I wish them only good things. As for the posters, some really are acting bad, both Memphis biased posters and those who are not, and sadly they start to be generalized as the typical poster for their schools. You and I have been around a long time and we have seen things change dramatically, so I figure these people are just young and need to mature more to see how it really is.

Yes, we've been around long enough to see enough peaks and valleys, changes to the old guard, lawsuits, etc, to know that eventually like-programs with the same goals will eventually settle in proper conference homes. The college athletic world will eventually be righted with only a few mid-level programs "making it" to a big conference. That may take awhile.

Every program has done what the administrators thought was best at the time. In the end, we'll all be playing football, basketball, etc, etc, for the foreseeable future and doing the best we can.

There are some relationships that existed long before CUSA, such as the Golden Eagles and Tigers that have survived and thrived for 60 or more year and I'm sure that some point those relationships will be reestablished.

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

LOL. +1. The catch is that both neighborhoods are in reality "right next door to each other" and neither will ever be called Beverly Hills (the Special 5 as I call them now) or have property values that will ever come close either. And there's a couple of "trailer parks" close by......who's property values are even worse. So all in all, I liked the neighborhood we lived in and I'll learn to like the new neighborhood..........property values not withstanding. :ecu:

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

Great analogy OT..... But I also think both neighborhoods were looted. lol

(02-16-2013 02:53 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

Great analogy OT..... But I also think both neighborhoods were looted. lol

BCS has kept both neighborhoods on the other side of the tracks. I would also add that working together with a united voice, NonAQ schools could also use that opportunity of a united voice for a more equitable position in the college football world.

(02-16-2013 03:07 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 02:53 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

Great analogy OT..... But I also think both neighborhoods were looted. lol

BCS has kept both neighborhoods on the other side of the tracks. I would also add that working together with a united voice, NonAQ schools could also use that opportunity for a more equitable position in the college football world.

I'm conviced that if we finally built our neighborhoods on the right side of the tracks, the BCS would move the tracks to leave us out again..... :muttering:

(02-16-2013 03:07 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 02:53 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

Great analogy OT..... But I also think both neighborhoods were looted. lol

BCS has kept both neighborhoods on the other side of the tracks. I would also add that working together with a united voice, NonAQ schools could also use that opportunity of a united voice for a more equitable position in the college football world.

I'll agree with you here. The question is how to do it. All of the GOF together is alot of football and basketball inventory that if we all said as one voice "no less than 5 million per team per year" which IMHO is a reasonable amount when compared to the "Special 5" or you get none of us or any of our inventory, it makes me wonder if the networks would concede or could we last if they turned us down. Plus does CUSA or the nBe for that matter really want to be on an equal footing with the SB or the MAC by joining forces? Probably not.

(02-16-2013 03:33 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 03:07 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 02:53 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:48 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 01:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Well, Tallgrass, the way I see it is "it is what it is". They chose to go a different route and whether it's to their advantage or not, this guy thinks, "WHO CARES?!".

Here is the best analogy I've got while being as non-offensive as possible to anyone .....

We owned a house in a very good middle class neighborhood where everyone got along reasonably well.

We were invited to a perceived upper middle class neighborhood with higher property values but the neighbors never got along very well.

We sold our current home at a loss.

We paid a premium price for the new house in the perceived upper middle class neighborhood.

The homeowners in the new neighborhood heard we were coming and moved out, leaving greatly declining property values.

Exactly half of our former neighbors from the old neighborhood moved into the new neighborhood, paying inflated property values.

Both the old and new neighborhoods are in transition and have an opportunity to build new neighborhood property values and as always, some neighbors in both neighborhoods will work out better than others.

Great analogy OT..... But I also think both neighborhoods were looted. lol

BCS has kept both neighborhoods on the other side of the tracks. I would also add that working together with a united voice, NonAQ schools could also use that opportunity of a united voice for a more equitable position in the college football world.

I'll agree with you here. The question is how to do it. All of the GOF together is alot of football and basketball inventory that if we all said as one voice "no less than 5 million per team per year" which IMHO is a reasonable amount when compared to the "Special 5" or you get none of us or any of our inventory, it makes me wonder if the networks would concede or could we last if they turned us down. Plus does CUSA or the nBe for that matter really want to be on an equal footing with the SB or the MAC by joining forces? Probably not.

BCS has done many negative things to do to NonAq schools and conferences. The NonAQ choice not to cooperate with its brethern because of false perceptions is self inflicted and probably the deepest wound suffered by NonAQ world.

(02-16-2013 10:21 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Just don't eat a bullet when Tulsa is added, ok?

Tulsa was not wanted and left behind by Nbe. However, Nbe tv money was so low that Boise and then SDSU left Nbe. Fact is, a very desperate Nbe needs previously rejected Tulsa.

Rest assured, I will not eat a bullet for this flailing clustersmuck Nbe.

(02-16-2013 11:08 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  

(02-16-2013 10:54 AM)egrizzard Wrote:  I like pop tarts. Blueberry pop tarts are delicious, but a chocolate poptart with a touch of butter is a greatly underrated after dinner treat!

try it with a scoop of good vanilla ice cream on top.

This. Damn they are good that way. Wish I had one now!

Of course the nbe got desparate. Realistically speaking, that's why most of us were chosen...and the money will be much lower than expected, but still better than what we are currently getting (if reports are to be believed).


That being said, if every single school had stayed and we worked out that merger with the mountain west, we'd all collectively be in better shape right now, imo. But since so many schools left, I think the schools who left later in the game made the right choice. Time will tell.

Tallgrass and TopCoog circa 2007 need a thread to themselves that can be read and enjoyed by everyone.



BTW, whatever happened to TopPoop?