(02-15-2013 12:57 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:37 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 11:10 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  They don't have any arguments. All they do is claim the government is out to get us. .

And what were you guys saying during the Bush years?

Nothing, because, like I've said before, I'm not a Bush supporter, I'm not an Obama supporter, I'm not a R, I'm not a D, I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative.

Yes, we know. You're just a zombie who doesn't "care enough to think."

Yes, I'm a zombie because I don't believe all the crazy conspiracy theories.

You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

(02-15-2013 01:09 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:57 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:37 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  And what were you guys saying during the Bush years?

Nothing, because, like I've said before, I'm not a Bush supporter, I'm not an Obama supporter, I'm not a R, I'm not a D, I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative.

Yes, we know. You're just a zombie who doesn't "care enough to think."

Yes, I'm a zombie because I don't believe all the crazy conspiracy theories.

You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

And you conspiracy theorists DO use facts? Now THAT'S funny! You guys read some extremely slanted article, then make up your own 'facts' about the article and call us who do not agree with your 'facts' zombies or morons or idiots or dunce or etc., etc.

(02-15-2013 01:18 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:09 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:57 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:37 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  Nothing, because, like I've said before, I'm not a Bush supporter, I'm not an Obama supporter, I'm not a R, I'm not a D, I'm not a liberal, I'm not a conservative.

Yes, we know. You're just a zombie who doesn't "care enough to think."

Yes, I'm a zombie because I don't believe all the crazy conspiracy theories.

You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

And you conspiracy theorists DO use facts? Now THAT'S funny! You guys read some extremely slanted article, then make up your own 'facts' about the article and call us who do not agree with your 'facts' zombies or morons or idiots or dunce or etc., etc.

What conspiracy theories do I subscribe to? And are you saying that it isn't a fact that the FAA has agreed for drones to fly over America?

(02-15-2013 01:26 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:18 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:09 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:57 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:51 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Yes, we know. You're just a zombie who doesn't "care enough to think."

Yes, I'm a zombie because I don't believe all the crazy conspiracy theories.

You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

And you conspiracy theorists DO use facts? Now THAT'S funny! You guys read some extremely slanted article, then make up your own 'facts' about the article and call us who do not agree with your 'facts' zombies or morons or idiots or dunce or etc., etc.

And are you saying that it isn't a fact that the FAA has agreed for drones to fly over America?

No, I'm not. What's wrong with that? Instead of focusing on how they could provide better security and provide more safety to American citizens, people come up with their own theories, like 'Oh, no! Their going to start killing American citizens with them!' or 'Their going to start spying on everyone!' etc.

(02-15-2013 12:51 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  A local radio show had a segment on drones - I caught the tail end where the conclusion was a moratorium until there is Congressional approval that should ONLY allow for search & rescue missions and court warrant approved surveilance.

I would agree.

In other words...stuff that manned aircraft already do. Why drones? My bet is someones pocket is going to get lined by building these f'ing things.

(02-15-2013 01:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:26 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:18 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:09 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:57 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  Yes, I'm a zombie because I don't believe all the crazy conspiracy theories.

You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

And you conspiracy theorists DO use facts? Now THAT'S funny! You guys read some extremely slanted article, then make up your own 'facts' about the article and call us who do not agree with your 'facts' zombies or morons or idiots or dunce or etc., etc.

And are you saying that it isn't a fact that the FAA has agreed for drones to fly over America?

No, I'm not. What's wrong with that? Instead of focusing on how they could provide better security and provide more safety to American citizens, people come up with their own theories, like 'Oh, no! Their going to start killing American citizens with them!' or 'Their going to start spying on everyone!' etc.

If you can't see the potential danger of starting this program there is very little left to discuss.

(02-15-2013 01:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:26 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:18 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:09 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

And you conspiracy theorists DO use facts? Now THAT'S funny! You guys read some extremely slanted article, then make up your own 'facts' about the article and call us who do not agree with your 'facts' zombies or morons or idiots or dunce or etc., etc.

And are you saying that it isn't a fact that the FAA has agreed for drones to fly over America?

No, I'm not. What's wrong with that? Instead of focusing on how they could provide better security and provide more safety to American citizens, people come up with their own theories, like 'Oh, no! Their going to start killing American citizens with them!' or 'Their going to start spying on everyone!' etc.

If you can't see the potential danger of starting this program there is very little left to discuss.

There's potential danger in everything.

I think you all need to watch out. This very minute...there are thousands and thousands of police officers watching you as you drive around.

You should probably go hide in your basements.

(02-15-2013 01:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  No, I'm not. What's wrong with that? Instead of focusing on how they could provide better security and provide more safety to American citizens, people come up with their own theories, like 'Oh, no! Their going to start killing American citizens with them!' or 'Their going to start spying on everyone!' etc.

What evidence do you have that drones will make Americans safer? Let me guess...blind faith in the gov't to always do what's right? And are you saying that these drones will not be used for warrantless surveillance? That's kind of the main use of drones. Can you show what safeguards are in place so that drones could not be used in a manner that is invasive to privacy?

Quote:The FAA seems to have put no restrictions on what can be done with drones, she explains, so long as it’s done in a “safe manner.” The agency has set no surveillance restrictions for unmanned aerials, she adds, and no parameters on their data collection.

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-acc...one-act--2

And how do we know that the drones could not be hacked or hijacked by someone else?

Quote:In a House Homeland Security oversight subcommittee hearing late this week, members of Congress raised concerns over the potential security risks posed by jamming and electronic hijacking of unmanned aerial systems, and the potential use of drones by terrorists.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/...ine-looms/

Drones have already been used to kill American citizens abroad. That is a fact.

We already know that law enforcement use warrantless surveillance of cell phones - even at the local level. That is a fact. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/us/pol...anted=all&

We already know that the NSA is about to open a data center large enough to hold all the electronic communication in the world for 100 years. Again, fact.

Quote:Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03...nter/all/1

So you still think there is no way that drones could be used in ways that are not compliant with out Constitutional rights? I eagerly await your response, which will surely be full of facts and references to allay all of these concerns. (LOL)

(02-15-2013 12:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Answer the question, Robs.

Track drug dealers, track terrorists(no, not morons like you-actual people who want to physically harm the country)and/or scientific reasons. Just a few possibilities.

You realize that without due process, those terms are subjective and can change with different leaders?

Of course not. You're an idiot.

Gonna be funny to see how these progs react when a Republican is elected. ....with the same powers.

(02-15-2013 12:36 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Answer the question, Robs.

Track drug dealers, track terrorists(no, not morons like you-actual people who want to physically harm the country)and/or scientific reasons. Just a few possibilities.

And maybe it'll peek in your window, you know, just in case.

4th Amendment, Robs. Look it up.

the only way he could even hope to read it.......is if you shoved it up his ass

(02-15-2013 12:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Answer the question, Robs.

Track drug dealers, track terrorists(no, not morons like you-actual people who want to physically harm the country)and/or scientific reasons. Just a few possibilities.

You mean people suspected of such things, don't you?

Oh, hell. We already use them to KILL people like that in other places. What's a little peek in your window after all that?

BTW, 1984 wasn't an how-to manual.

(02-15-2013 02:33 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Answer the question, Robs.

Track drug dealers, track terrorists(no, not morons like you-actual people who want to physically harm the country)and/or scientific reasons. Just a few possibilities.

You mean people suspected of such things, don't you?

Oh, hell. We already use them to KILL people like that in other places. What's a little peek in your window after all that?

BTW, 1984 wasn't an how-to manual.

Man, just accept it. Progs like Robs are meant to be ruled. It's why in true "Progressive" societies, which is nothing but an aesthetic word for Marxist, which is where these idiots want to take us, you have two classes, the haves and the have nots. The have nots like Robs just want to be taken care of. It is this Progressive revolution that I'll fight and die to prevent in my country.

Before any of you idiot Progs try to say it has nothing to do with Communism, you better pick up a f'n history book. It's why there is Communist propaganda all over ANY leftist rally. Face it, people, they want us like Cuba. Arm yourselves.

Rebel-

What the fu.ck is a 'prog'?

Prog is short for progressive. At least it used to be...

(02-15-2013 12:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Answer the question, Robs.

Track drug dealers, track terrorists(no, not morons like you-actual people who want to physically harm the country)and/or scientific reasons. Just a few possibilities.

They are going to "track" terrorists. FAN F*CKING TASTIC. They aren't going to arrest them when they know they are here, nope, instead they are going to track them with a giant drone in the sky that is obvious to everyone.

Absolutely f*cking genius. Well done retard, you really have scraped the bottom of the stupidity barrel. Thank god we will have drones to track terrorists around the country instead of just arresting them since we know where they all are already.

(02-15-2013 01:32 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:26 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:18 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 01:09 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 12:57 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  Yes, I'm a zombie because I don't believe all the crazy conspiracy theories.

You're a zombie because you don't seem to be intelligent enough to even form an opinion on anything (other than to call everything a crazy conspiracy theory) or even be capable of original thought. You've never added anything to a thread. You don't use facts or sources to dispute things, only your naive opinion of "it can't happen here because this is America." You're willfully ignorant and proud of it.

And you conspiracy theorists DO use facts? Now THAT'S funny! You guys read some extremely slanted article, then make up your own 'facts' about the article and call us who do not agree with your 'facts' zombies or morons or idiots or dunce or etc., etc.

And are you saying that it isn't a fact that the FAA has agreed for drones to fly over America?

No, I'm not. What's wrong with that? Instead of focusing on how they could provide better security and provide more safety to American citizens, people come up with their own theories, like 'Oh, no! Their going to start killing American citizens with them!' or 'Their going to start spying on everyone!' etc.

Better security and more safety.........you can honestly believe that do you? How about you tell us HOW exactly they will do both of those things? By spying on people the government deems worthy of spying on?

Great! How could that possibly go wrong??!!

Bye-bye RRM!

(02-15-2013 02:22 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Gonna be funny to see how these progs react when a Republican is elected. ....with the same powers.

Good thing I will be long dead by then.