The ironic thing is this crowd most likely voted for Obama....if they even voted at all.

Alumni - I completely agree. One of the things that needs to happen is for Noland to explain precisely what he explained to the SGA: Without football, ETSU will stay in the Asun. Every team in the Asun wants out, and its very likely some of its better members, including Mercer, will leave. Bottom line is if we are to keep a D1 athletic program, we have to move. To move we have to have football. It's that simple. Once you explain it, that opposing argument fades away. The only argument they can make it is "Well then, let's go ahead & drop to D-2." But for student/alumni engagement, that's not an option. They see that too.

'88 - This is NOT a political issue. I voted for Obama, and I'm pro football & pro ETSU athletics. So stop that crap. It has no place here.

(02-14-2013 09:51 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  Alumni - I completely agree. One of the things that needs to happen is for Noland to explain precisely what he explained to the SGA: Without football, ETSU will stay in the Asun. Every team in the Asun wants out, and its very likely some of its better members, including Mercer, will leave. Bottom line is if we are to keep a D1 athletic program, we have to move. To move we have to have football. It's that simple. Once you explain it, that opposing argument fades away. The only argument they can make it is "Well then, let's go ahead & drop to D-2." But for student/alumni engagement, that's not an option. They see that too.

You have just stated the argument for not dropping football in the first place and moving to the ASun. For ten years the football people have been preaching this message in one form or another. Yet, the Stanton-Mullins crowd insisted that a shift away from the major sports to the minor sports would somehow benefit ETSU. Well, they were wrong then and they're wrong now. Everyone with any knowledge of college athletics predicted what would happen to ETSU athletics. Well it happened, and it's ugly. You said to move (forward) we have to have football. It is, indeed, that simple and always has been. To this day, ETSU has been the ONLY FCS level state regional university in America since 2003 to drop football and shift its athletic emphasis to minor sports. That plan is not sustainable. The only direction with this plan is the continued downward spiral for ETSU athletics. Brian Noland sees this and has the courage to fix it. I'll bet we will see him on the stump in the coming weeks continuing to present his plan, rationale, and vision. The overwhelming evidence is on his side, and his argument is hard to refute with relation to what is best for ETSU, its alumni, students, and the entire region.

Go Brian Noland, Go ETSU, Go Bucs.

(02-14-2013 06:37 AM)etsudolfan Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 01:56 AM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  It troubles me there are so many morons on campus.

actually I think they are the minority...just looking for something to complain about

They are the minority, but I guess I just go back to reading what they say. They're basically taking talking points given to them from professors not like some of the folks on here, but rather turdbags who have tried using the same tired argument for 100 years. They just don't get it, and never will. The sad thing is the students who are spewing this crap haven't done any actual research on their own, because if they had they would see its' long term benefits. Also, these students are conditioned to the "George McFly" mentality where it's a hassle, and we can't compete, and it's hard, etc... That's very sad and part of the culture that Dr. Noland needs to work to change.

Again, what are the arts people complaining about?

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/art...?id=104796

(02-14-2013 09:06 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Again, what are the arts people complaining about?

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/art...?id=104796

Alot of those types will ALWAYS complain. They hate sports, and in some cases they have reason. There are douchebag athletes out there that they use as an example. That 5 percent of toolbag guys doesn't compare in the least to the pompus, electric car driving, Tolstoy reading at Acoustic Coffeehouse so everyone can you reading Tolstoy at Acoustic Coffeehouse sniff their own farts pseudo intellectual knobs.

(02-14-2013 09:18 PM)Buccaneerlover Wrote:  

(02-14-2013 09:06 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Again, what are the arts people complaining about?

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/art...?id=104796

Alot of those types will ALWAYS complain. They hate sports, and in some cases they have reason. There are ********* athletes out there that they use as an example. That 5 percent of toolbag guys doesn't compare in the least to the pompus, electric car driving, Tolstoy reading at Acoustic Coffeehouse so everyone can you reading Tolstoy at Acoustic Coffeehouse sniff their own farts pseudo intellectual knobs.

Guess they want everyone in America to be fat. Also hipsters NEED to go away.

I can hipster bash with the best of them. They claim they want freedom yet feel McDonald's shouldn't be allowed to sell Big Mac's and Large Diet Cokes.
The sad thing that they fail to see as well as some of those folks on here on the opposite end is why can't ETSU have it all? Shoot I'm greedy, get em all one. PAC, arena, football, track, etc...
My thing is, football can serve as a catalyst for 6-8 weekends a year where on game weekends there are plays/concerts at the PAC, art exhibits, musical showcases, etc... Let football bring the extra folks on campus, then promote the hell out of the other performances and let people see that as well. It speaks of being well rounded as a school and truth be told is there any one of you who wouldn't go see a production of Best Little W__rehouse in Texas on a Friday night, check out a local band somewhere afterwards then go all out for football on Saturday.
I guess in short what I'm saying is football is the way to get people in the door and showoff the school with special events all over campus on gameday to go with tailgating.

(02-14-2013 09:51 AM)GoBucsGo Wrote:  Alumni - I completely agree. One of the things that needs to happen is for Noland to explain precisely what he explained to the SGA: Without football, ETSU will stay in the Asun. Every team in the Asun wants out, and its very likely some of its better members, including Mercer, will leave. Bottom line is if we are to keep a D1 athletic program, we have to move. To move we have to have football. It's that simple. Once you explain it, that opposing argument fades away. The only argument they can make it is "Well then, let's go ahead & drop to D-2." But for student/alumni engagement, that's not an option. They see that too.

+1

(02-13-2013 10:58 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 10:56 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I don't know man. I think if someone circulates that thing through the art department, they could get a few hundred signatures.

We need to stop that from happening somehow. Also we need to tell these art people that they are getting a new center.

Stop it? Why?

This isn't feudal Europe. If this student wants to go through the proper channels for having their opinion heard I don't see the problem.

Are we really afraid of dissent?

(02-15-2013 10:35 AM)BucNut22 Wrote:  This isn't feudal Europe. If this student wants to go through the proper channels for having their opinion heard I don't see the problem.

Are we really afraid of dissent?

Aw 22, there you being all logical and rational. We certainly can't have that here! Seriously, good point. Sometimes we want the system to work only if it works for us.

(02-15-2013 10:35 AM)BucNut22 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 10:58 PM)etsuandpurdue3 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 10:56 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  I don't know man. I think if someone circulates that thing through the art department, they could get a few hundred signatures.

We need to stop that from happening somehow. Also we need to tell these art people that they are getting a new center.

Stop it? Why?

This isn't feudal Europe. If this student wants to go through the proper channels for having their opinion heard I don't see the problem.

Are we really afraid of dissent?

Also I mean we need to change the way people coming to the University view football and athletics in general,and not by forcing them to either.

In so many words, you've essentially said what I have for years that we have to quit being a BAD SPORTS TOWN!!!!!

Of course, I don't know how that happens.

(02-15-2013 05:15 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  In so many words, you've essentially said what I have for years that we have to quit being a BAD SPORTS TOWN!!!!!

Of course, I don't know how that happens.

You are so encouraging. A positive attitude is what is going to lead ETSU into the future. BT Barnum knew how to attract a crowd. ETSU needs a promoter with know how. Opinion leaders need to be singing ETSU's song. Schools need to support ETSU. Tradition routines need to be implemented. Most of all the ETSU community need to be held into account. I would have serious issues with ETSU employees who aren't supporting in some form or fashion. Marshall doesn't have as many distractions...but so many schools have been in the Bucs shoes and have turned it around. ETSU doesn't have to many distractions...the Bucs should own the Tri-Cities.

You know what a great stimulator was for football??? The baseball game today. Game time temp was probably in the mid 50's, but it felt colder than that & the temperature dropped throughout the afternoon. Still, GREAT student crowd today, and the largest crowd I've seen for an ETSU baseball game outside of the UTK game. Plus, we had a good group of kids out @ University Edge. Disappointing we lost the game, but it was tight, and Freeman had two nice homers along with Mason Hershey's homer. Bottom line: This is a nice facility. We got a solid crowd. Build a nice outdoor football stadium with good weather? You will fill it up.

Maybe would should build an outdoor basketball court then because we sure haven't had students showing up for those games.

Maybe we should build a new arena.

(02-15-2013 07:15 PM)Mister Jennings Wrote:  

(02-15-2013 05:15 PM)PittsburghBucs Wrote:  In so many words, you've essentially said what I have for years that we have to quit being a BAD SPORTS TOWN!!!!!

Of course, I don't know how that happens.

You are so encouraging. A positive attitude is what is going to lead ETSU into the future. BT Barnum knew how to attract a crowd. ETSU needs a promoter with know how. Opinion leaders need to be singing ETSU's song. Schools need to support ETSU. Tradition routines need to be implemented. Most of all the ETSU community need to be held into account. I would have serious issues with ETSU employees who aren't supporting in some form or fashion. Marshall doesn't have as many distractions...but so many schools have been in the Bucs shoes and have turned it around. ETSU doesn't have to many distractions...the Bucs should own the Tri-Cities.

Read the letter I wrote to the 125 Committee and then tell me how I'm not encouraging.

Read the columns I wrote that nobody else would and tell me I'm not encouraging.

Look up the traffic on this board, which I had take off, just like SoConHoops, and tell me I'm not encouraging.

People who don't want to think but rather blindly follow.

Now, that's not encouraging.

here we go again Marky claiming to be the driving force behind the board. lmao, It is basketball season and oh that little thing about football. I am sure those things had NOTHING to do with the boards traffic picking up. Someone needs to take his meds.

Like I have said many times before, if you think it is all about you, stop posting and see what happens. We all know he doesn't have the guts,
the board would move along just fine without him and he can't admit that. So he will keep coming on here and makes hundreds and hundreds of
posts and since he is making the MOST posts he must be the most important poster, isn't that how it works? Riiiiight.