(02-13-2013 03:17 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 01:29 PM)919R Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 09:40 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 09:21 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 08:56 PM)Matrix Wrote:  Some guys have all the luck...Congratulations, Charlotte. Must be nice to be in a state that loves you as a city. Welcome again to Conference USA.

I wish this were true.

NC has been run by eastern NC politicians for decades. It has gotten better in recent years, but for a long long time Charlotte was shafted out of funding.

UNC Charlotte still gets shafted today. Just a couple years ago we had the lowest funding per student in the 17 school UNC system in NC and I think we're still in the bottom three today.

We have always made things work though despite UNC and NC State getting the lions share of funding. ECU fans can validate the discrepancy in funding. They've gotten the shaft for years too, but fortunately for them they at least have a few people on the board in their corner.

It's not fair by far, we actually have people that sit on the BOG. Outside of the UNX and MooU we get the most funding by far, but that is still half of what those two schools get. It pure BS the UNX has so many voting members on the BOG. It should be done by school sizes, NCSU should have the most by 1 vote, ECU and UNC tied for 2nd, Charlotte and UNC-G 3rd. But every school should have a vote. But UNC, NCSU, ECU, App. St., and UNC-G are the only ones that have any votes on the BOG I believe. ECU has 1, App St 1, UNC-G 1, NCSU 4, UNC 11, if I remember correctly.

Actually, not too sure of that first bolded statement.

Huh? Charlotte is virtually even with ECU and UNC (slightly behind both) and well ahead of UNC-G in size.

I believe so on the first, UNC and State get right 600 million a year, ECU is just over 300 million.

For the 2nd are you talking undergrad or total enrollment. Our total enrollment is just over 28,000 this year.

We had just over 26,000 this year. Can't find solid statistics for UNCG, but they were only at ~18,000 a couple years ago. I doubt they're much over 20,000 if over that at all in such a short period of time.

Per pupil funding is one thing. But Charlotte doesn't take a back seat to anyone in the UNC system for new construction. Geez, where are yall getting all the coin to build all the new digs? And I'm not talking about the stadium.

(02-13-2013 04:21 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 03:17 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-13-2013 01:29 PM)919R Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 09:40 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 09:21 PM)Niner National Wrote:  I wish this were true.

NC has been run by eastern NC politicians for decades. It has gotten better in recent years, but for a long long time Charlotte was shafted out of funding.

UNC Charlotte still gets shafted today. Just a couple years ago we had the lowest funding per student in the 17 school UNC system in NC and I think we're still in the bottom three today.

We have always made things work though despite UNC and NC State getting the lions share of funding. ECU fans can validate the discrepancy in funding. They've gotten the shaft for years too, but fortunately for them they at least have a few people on the board in their corner.

It's not fair by far, we actually have people that sit on the BOG. Outside of the UNX and MooU we get the most funding by far, but that is still half of what those two schools get. It pure BS the UNX has so many voting members on the BOG. It should be done by school sizes, NCSU should have the most by 1 vote, ECU and UNC tied for 2nd, Charlotte and UNC-G 3rd. But every school should have a vote. But UNC, NCSU, ECU, App. St., and UNC-G are the only ones that have any votes on the BOG I believe. ECU has 1, App St 1, UNC-G 1, NCSU 4, UNC 11, if I remember correctly.

Actually, not too sure of that first bolded statement.

Huh? Charlotte is virtually even with ECU and UNC (slightly behind both) and well ahead of UNC-G in size.

I believe so on the first, UNC and State get right 600 million a year, ECU is just over 300 million.

For the 2nd are you talking undergrad or total enrollment. Our total enrollment is just over 28,000 this year.

We had just over 26,000 this year. Can't find solid statistics for UNCG, but they were only at ~18,000 a couple years ago. I doubt they're much over 20,000 if over that at all in such a short period of time.

Okay, cool. Didn't know your's was that high, but I thought I saw last year something that had UNC-G at 21,000 total enrollment. But, the split on the votes was more of an example than anything.

And, don't get me start with BOG and enrollment.:muttering: They would allow us to increase enrollment when we want in the 90's like we wanted to and then in the early 2000's forced a huge increase of 4,000 from one year to the next, killing our per student spend numbers (due to no increase in funding) and our academic rankings to fall. I remember talk to a BOT member a few years back that said, we had a plan to grow ECU threw the 1990's and 2000's that would have ECU around 25,000 in 1999 and 32,000 by the centienal in 2007, and done in a way that would have increased the academic profile of the school. But, the BOG will never be any real good as long as UNC has the strangle hold it does on the BOG, 11 freak'n votes, and NCSU is the next closest with 4?????????? That make NO DAMN sence! With 18 Public Universities, are you kidding me.

Trust me, we are on the same page when it come to UNC and their ilk on the BOG and the GA in rawlee.

(02-13-2013 03:21 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  By actual dollar amount, due to our size alone; ECU and Charlotte are probably top six in actual money funding. But on a per student basis both schools still rank near the bottom.

Interesting point: NC School of the Arts per student funding is the very top in the system by close to 3X the next school (Chapel Hill). Its like $17,000 per student. This of course is due to the limited size of the enrollment.

Yes, ECU is 3rd and I believe that Charlotte is 4th/5th in total funding. But, as you say with our enrollments being so close to UNC and NCSU, but funding being nearly half of what they get we fall way down the list in per student funding.

(02-13-2013 04:28 PM)CrownRoyal Wrote:  Per pupil funding is one thing. But Charlotte doesn't take a back seat to anyone in the UNC system for new construction. Geez, where are yall getting all the coin to build all the new digs? And I'm not talking about the stadium.

Half of the newest buildings on campus are dormitories, parking decks, the Student Union and athletics facilities. All of which are funded by student or parking fees.

The CRI campus buildings, Robinson Performing Arts and the new buildings across from the Student Union; were all funded as part of the 2000 Bonds Package. We're just now finishing the last of those simply because we couldn't have that much construction going on at one time.

The first academic building planned that's not a part of the 2000 Bond was to be the new Science Building. That was to have been funded in 2007....................6 years later and its still not on the horizon.

According to the NCSU message board, there have been two committees convened to look at the composition for the BOG. Thought I should post it so we can see if there is anything we can do.

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