(02-06-2013 10:00 PM)Ragu Wrote: (02-06-2013 09:55 PM)nzmorange Wrote: (02-06-2013 07:25 PM)Ragu Wrote: (02-06-2013 07:20 PM)WNCOrange Wrote: One thing to bear in mind (imo) is that the fans that are bitching are fans of schools that are not option number 1 in their respective states. They already have a bit of a built in little brother syndrome.
First off being number 4 in Florida is better than being number one in New York for football.
Secondly you new people to the conference from Northern states have no idea about competing with the SEC for recruits. And if you think some recruits are lost simply because FSU/Clemson aren't in the SEC, you have your head in the sand.
These players want exciting matchups. FSU and Clemson can't control those in conference matchups because that is dependent on how the other teams do. The fact is that most recruits don't give a crap about playing anyone in this conference except FSU, Clemson and Miami. I know some of you don't like to hear that but those are the 3 teams that are the matchups most top kids want.
PS: Florida State and Miami are not little brothers to Florida. They are called the big 3 for a reason. All 3 have held their own against each other. My family is split between UF/FSU and I never think of them as big brother. Anyone saying that crap obviously hasn't followed the rivalries.
1. NY has a MUCH better football tradition than Florida. Don't get me wrong, Florida produces more talent now, but don't trash the state that gave the University of Florida a reason to not leave the state of Florida for OOC games.
2. If the ACC conference schedule doesn't deliver challenges and exciting matchups, then why does FSU schedule weak OOC teams?
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/acc/flor...inoles.php
Seriously save the history crap. Your grandpa can talk about when Syracuse had Jim Brown and Ernie Davis with his friends that aren't deceased yet. Nobody cares about NY football now. Now is what matters in what we are talking about.
Everyone schedules weak OOC games for a game or two. This is because you get them guaranteed as home games and take in all that money. If you do a home/home, you have to go away for a game and take a hit financially. With how far this conference is getting behind our SEC rivals already, FSU can't really afford to lose more money.
Florida is an every year game. WVU was supposed to be this year and last year but they backed out forcing FSU to scramble. In 2014, Oklahoma State will be a 2nd OOC game. Look at the schedules over the years junior before you try to even compare to FSU OOC. They have historically scheduled very up OOC . While you may love history, you sure aren't a scholar of their history.
PS: It's a two way street too. SEC/Big12/Big10 teams don't usually schedule more than one headliner OOC game. So it isn't as if FSU can just call and get 3 hard teams OOC to play......
"Seriously save the history crap."
Sorry, I forgot I was arguing with a high school kid with a 3.8 GPA who doesn't remember wayyyyyyyyy back to '91.
"Everyone schedules weak OOC games for a game or two."
So UF, Wofford, Nevada, and Idaho is a lineup with only one or two weak teams in it? I'' give you UF, but who is the second good team? Please enlighten me. Also, feel free to elaborate why UF has a tougher OOC schedule. Their schedule consists of Toledo, Ga Southern, Miami, and FSU. If FSU was really losing recruits to UF because UF's schedule had bigger names on it, then why is FSU's 2nd biggest OOC game against Nevada, whereas UF plays Miami as their #2?
"So it isn't as if FSU can just call and get 3 hard teams OOC to play......"
Weird lowly Syracuse found a way to get a ranked NW, a ranked (at the time) Mizzou, a #1 USC, and a Minnesota on their schedule last season. That's 4 BCS teams, and 3 of them were either ranked at the start of the season or at the end of the season (and Minn was ranked in the middle).
"Look at the schedules over the years junior before you try to even compare to FSU OOC."
UF (x4), Wofford, Nevada, Idaho, Oklahoma State, The Citadel, Texas State, Chattanooga. Those are ALL of FSU's scheduled OOC games for the next 4 years. I'll give you the yearly game against UF and I'll give you OSU (who you only play once on a neutral site), but who is the 3rd team (I'm not even going to ask for a 4th or 5th good team)?
Syracuse plays ND (3X), PSU, NW, and Tulane in the next four years, which is weird, because we aren't the ones complaining about our schedule but have virtually an identical OOC schedule (1 name team each year and a pretty good BCS team once), only we have more open spaces (i.e potential for a second pretty good BCS team). If the schedule was really FSU's problem, then they wouldn't have the same (or weaker) schedule as one of those "weak northern teams."
It's OK, though. You're a FSU fan. Nobody expects you to be right. We just expect you to buy a bunch of FSU gear with ACC stickers on it and fill up our gas when we drive up to your pump. And before you mention that you live in Ohio, start telling me some long rambling story about your dad being a FSU fan and the rest of your family being UF fans, or go off on the fact that you aspire to go to FAU business school, know that I don't care. None of us do, so please don't put us through your life story again.
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