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(02-03-2013 11:19 AM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...ory_1.html

Quote:“I heard a lot after the game at Eastern Michigan that people thought I might have lost the team because the numbers were so brutal,” Montgomery said. “Those kids proved who they are, not only with the way we played the game, but with the way we prepared for the game.

Is it possible Monty reads this board?
02-03-2013 11:26 AM
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John Feinstein is a brilliant writer for the Washington Post. His books are a must read for the sports fan.
02-03-2013 11:29 AM
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Wow, to get the attention of John Feinstein is pretty darn special. Probably one of the greatest sports authors ever.
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(02-03-2013 11:26 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  
(02-03-2013 11:19 AM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...ory_1.html

Quote:“I heard a lot after the game at Eastern Michigan that people thought I might have lost the team because the numbers were so brutal,” Montgomery said. “Those kids proved who they are, not only with the way we played the game, but with the way we prepared for the game.

Is it possible Monty reads this board?

No doubt. 03-shhhh
02-03-2013 11:32 AM
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(02-03-2013 11:26 AM)BarsemaBone2 Wrote:  
(02-03-2013 11:19 AM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...ory_1.html

Quote:I heard a lot after the game at Eastern Michigan that people thought I might have lost the team because the numbers were so brutal,” Montgomery said. “Those kids proved who they are, not only with the way we played the game, but with the way we prepared for the game.

Is it possible Monty reads this board?

The game I DID feel that way was the Home loss to WMU 71-34. The effort and execution was embarassing at home. Most who saw both games would agree.

The EMU got more attention because of the "record". The play at EMU was better than the WMU game. They were actually getting some good lokks, but were just hitting "iron". If they shot just 30% from "3" they probably win or come close.
02-03-2013 12:00 PM
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How could Monty or players not read the board? It's not like there are a ton of NIU websites, and curiosity being what it is, even though EVERY single player and coach ever says "I don't read the papers blah blah blah"....you know they can't help themselves.
02-03-2013 12:11 PM
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He doesn't even know this board exists. I just tell him and the coaches what people say. I also tell people in athletics what people are saying. They could not believe, we were talking about Monty being fired. The athletic dept is 100% and very happy with Monty and the direction of the program.
02-03-2013 12:18 PM
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(02-03-2013 12:18 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  He doesn't even know this board exists. I just tell him and the coaches what people say. I also tell people in athletics what people are saying. They could not believe, we were talking about Monty being fired. The athletic dept is 100% and very happy with Monty and the direction of the program.

The "WE" regarding "FIRE" was a very small part of this Board.

"CONCERNED" would be another story. Again, speaking for myself, I was concerned after watching the WMU Home loss 71-34.
02-03-2013 12:27 PM
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(02-03-2013 12:27 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(02-03-2013 12:18 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  He doesn't even know this board exists. I just tell him and the coaches what people say. I also tell people in athletics what people are saying. They could not believe, we were talking about Monty being fired. The athletic dept is 100% and very happy with Monty and the direction of the program.
The "WE" regarding "FIRE" was a very small part of this Board.
"CONCERNED" would be another story. Again, speaking for myself, I was concerned after watching the WMU Home loss 71-34.

This is a good example of interpretation. thxjoenovak and everyone expressing "concern" had every right to feel that way, and continue to feel that apprehension.
Perhaps "those people" niu2222 spoke with "could not believe" there was a small segment talking about Montgomery being fired, but there are others in the athletic department who know better. To say the athletic dept is "100% and very happy" is also overstating things. At least two members I spoke with said there was "an air of frustration and disappointment" throughout the Convo.

It is too early and financially unfeasible to fire Montgomery, however, it is reasonable to be concerned and debate if sufficient progess is being made.
On the one hand, it wouldn't take much to improve on Patton's program; on the other hand, how much more competitive is the program? Even a numerical improvement in victories over last year (5-26 / 3-13) does not mean escaping a seventh straight 20-loss season. Two such years under Montgomery is not much more encouraging than two such seasons under Patton.

Yes, the team is extremely young, but that reality places a greater empahsis on recruiting and then playing fundamental offense and defense with the talent in place. A home game like WMU is a greater concern than a road game like EMU. MAC basketball is not on a par where it used to be and yet, Toledo was just NIU's first league loss that wasn't by a double-digit margin.
With the exception of Kent State (12-10), the other four wins are over teams with sub-.500 records (SIU-E 8-11; Judson 4-16; Miami 8-12; CMU 9-12); and while the losses outside of the conference are versus programs split between sub-.500 or above-.500 records, only one (Valparaiso) is leading its league. So it would be safe to say this has not been a killer schedule.

Despite what niu2222 may believe, I genuinely hope and pray the positives will far out-weigh the negatives over the remainder of this season; however, it's also clear that a chasm still remains between 20-losses and even coming close to a .500 campaign. For any Division I program, that is a concern. In today's collegiate basketball world, that's the same as the collegiate football world now giving coaches only three seasons -- sometimes even two -- to prove themselves. As thxjoenovak and others have justifiably stated, there are reasons to be concerned, and it is still possible to be supportive while being critical.
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(02-03-2013 12:27 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  
(02-03-2013 12:18 PM)niu2222 Wrote:  He doesn't even know this board exists. I just tell him and the coaches what people say. I also tell people in athletics what people are saying. They could not believe, we were talking about Monty being fired. The athletic dept is 100% and very happy with Monty and the direction of the program.

The "WE" regarding "FIRE" was a very small part of this Board.

"CONCERNED" would be another story. Again, speaking for myself, I was concerned after watching the WMU Home loss 71-34.

Absolutely, if there was not concern about the players and coaches after losing to WMU by 37 at home, then we have set a very low bar for NIU basketball. Under no circumstance should ANY MAC team lose to another MAC team by more than 30 points at home. That was embarassing.
02-03-2013 01:23 PM
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For many of us at the game, it was the worst basketball game we have ever seen at NIU. Keep in mind, most of us have seen over 30 years of basketball.
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(02-03-2013 11:31 AM)niu79 Wrote:  Wow, to get the attention of John Feinstein is pretty darn special. Probably one of the greatest sports authors ever.

I won 2 of 4 March Madness pools (and finished 2nd once) at work by making selections based on his detailed bracket analysis in the Washington Post during March Madness week.

Folks wonder how I did it. 02-13-banana
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