(02-02-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:40 AM)billyjack Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:12 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Yes he was being sarcastic, but I'm serious about Providence and Seton HAll. It's not easy to see how they get back to being good--they're not in great recruiting areas, they're not in legendary arenas, they can't sell current success, they can't sell top-25-programs-of-all-time type history, and they're in a very very tough league. DePaul is bad too, but at least they're in Chicago, and have some pre-Big East success to talk about. So you're down to "hire a great young coach to work recruiting magic", which only works for as long as you can keep that coach.

What? Every reason u give for thinking PC will suck forever is in reality the exact opposite. Young energetic coach born in Providence and working at his dream job, who is an amazing recruiter with two 5-stars and a 4-star on the books, with both 5-stars local from New London CT and west side of Providence, and the 4-star from Philadelphia, plus traditionally a ton of recruits from NYC, in great recruiting grounds (Noel from metro Boston, prep schools everywhere), in a recently renovated arena of 12,500 which is the 2nd largest in New England... have you been paying attention... we're finally breaking free of the Keno years...

I hope so. It'd be nice. And UConn will be down for a while with APR and new-coach issues, and BC is still bad.

New England still isn't a great recruiting area--compare to NYC or Chicago or south Florida. The arena is nice, but 12 year olds aren't on the playgrounds pretending they're playing at the Dunk. You'll notice that you're working that "great young coach to work recruiting magic." Hope it works, but if it does, his agent's phone will start to ring, starting with UConn and BC.

One of the benefits of being in a conference like the c7 (or the BE) is that you dont have to be restricted to recruiting regionally. Providence is close enough to nyc that a recruits family and friends are able to attend home games with relative ease. Even Philly is doable. I also dont think a nba arena is necesary. Seton Hall's arena was designed with the nets in mind. Plenty of good schools dont have one. If schools such as xavier, gonzaga,creighton,marquette and butler can acheive national success, there isnt any reason why providence, seton hall, depaul and st louis cant. They've done it before.
Providence is committed to success in its overall athletic program. Their two most visable programs have new young energetic coaches that seem to be turning the programs around(hockey and bb) They are in the process of upgrading(?) their mens lax program into being fully supported. New coaching hires in mens lax, womens BB. Coaches that have been awarded BE (or hockey east) coach of the year in x country womens hockey and field hockey.
With the exception of the pool every athletic venue at PC has been remodeled or newly built in the past 5 years or so, or there are plans to do so in the next 2. The new softball facilty may be about 6 or 7 years old. They just finished the renovation of the womenss BB and volleyball facility. Mens BB was completed about 2 years ago. Field hockey and lax about 5 or 6 years ago. Ice hockey in the process now of a major renovation/addition. Plans to break ground in the spring for a brand new track/soccer complex. The tennis courts will also be moved and thus rebuilt.
PC gets it, even though the mens BB record doesnt reflect it, they have made tremendous improvements since last year, both on the court and off. They only have one loss this year by over 10 points. Had they been healthy at the begining of the year and had a full team they could have easily won a few of those games. I honestly believe they are on the right path witht this coach.I expect good things next year. Of course if its more of the same then i may change my mind!

Friars represent.

(02-02-2013 01:10 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:50 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:58 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:40 AM)billyjack Wrote:  

(02-02-2013 12:12 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Yes he was being sarcastic, but I'm serious about Providence and Seton HAll. It's not easy to see how they get back to being good--they're not in great recruiting areas, they're not in legendary arenas, they can't sell current success, they can't sell top-25-programs-of-all-time type history, and they're in a very very tough league. DePaul is bad too, but at least they're in Chicago, and have some pre-Big East success to talk about. So you're down to "hire a great young coach to work recruiting magic", which only works for as long as you can keep that coach.

What? Every reason u give for thinking PC will suck forever is in reality the exact opposite. Young energetic coach born in Providence and working at his dream job, who is an amazing recruiter with two 5-stars and a 4-star on the books, with both 5-stars local from New London CT and west side of Providence, and the 4-star from Philadelphia, plus traditionally a ton of recruits from NYC, in great recruiting grounds (Noel from metro Boston, prep schools everywhere), in a recently renovated arena of 12,500 which is the 2nd largest in New England... have you been paying attention... we're finally breaking free of the Keno years...

I hope so. It'd be nice. And UConn will be down for a while with APR and new-coach issues, and BC is still bad.

New England still isn't a great recruiting area--compare to NYC or Chicago or south Florida. The arena is nice, but 12 year olds aren't on the playgrounds pretending they're playing at the Dunk. You'll notice that you're working that "great young coach to work recruiting magic." Hope it works, but if it does, his agent's phone will start to ring, starting with UConn and BC.

One of the benefits of being in a conference like the c7 (or the BE) is that you dont have to be restricted to recruiting regionally. Providence is close enough to nyc that a recruits family and friends are able to attend home games with relative ease. Even Philly is doable. I also dont think a nba arena is necesary. Seton Hall's arena was designed with the nets in mind. Plenty of good schools dont have one. If schools such as xavier, gonzaga,creighton,marquette and butler can acheive national success, there isnt any reason why providence, seton hall, depaul and st louis cant. They've done it before.
Providence is committed to success in its overall athletic program. Their two most visable programs have new young energetic coaches that seem to be turning the programs around(hockey and bb) They are in the process of upgrading(?) their mens lax program into being fully supported. New coaching hires in mens lax, womens BB. Coaches that have been awarded BE (or hockey east) coach of the year in x country womens hockey and field hockey.
With the exception of the pool every athletic venue at PC has been remodeled or newly built in the past 5 years or so, or there are plans to do so in the next 2. The new softball facilty may be about 6 or 7 years old. They just finished the renovation of the womenss BB and volleyball facility. Mens BB was completed about 2 years ago. Field hockey and lax about 5 or 6 years ago. Ice hockey in the process now of a major renovation/addition. Plans to break ground in the spring for a brand new track/soccer complex. The tennis courts will also be moved and thus rebuilt.
PC gets it, even though the mens BB record doesnt reflect it, they have made tremendous improvements since last year, both on the court and off. They only have one loss this year by over 10 points. Had they been healthy at the begining of the year and had a full team they could have easily won a few of those games. I honestly believe they are on the right path witht this coach.I expect good things next year. Of course if its more of the same then i may change my mind!

Friars represent.

ive been waiting for the right time to get on my soapbox! i will put it away..for now!