Sneaking this in here.....

go to link and vote "Big South" for a new updated board skin (just to see if we can surpass some of those other conferences)....

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=615700

More on tonight's game in Lynchburg later.....

Listening to Heymeyer/Smith and learning some things....

Liberty doesn't play on Wednesdays.

Campbell has never won in the Vines Center.

Eric Griffin is playing on a 2nd level pro team in Italy. These teams can only have 2 American players and the other on his team is Jesse Sanders from Liberty...

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry...101&Page=1

(01-29-2013 08:06 PM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  Listening to Heymeyer/Smith and learning some things....

Liberty doesn't play on Wednesdays.

Campbell has never won in the Vines Center.

Eric Griffin is playing on a 2nd level pro team in Italy. These teams can only have 2 American players and the other on his team is Jesse Sanders from Liberty...

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry...101&Page=1

I actually think Liberty doesn't play on Wednesday nights at home. They played at High Point on a Wednesday night earlier on January

(01-30-2013 06:34 AM)Chad4Life Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 08:06 PM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  Listening to Heymeyer/Smith and learning some things....

Liberty doesn't play on Wednesdays.

Campbell has never won in the Vines Center.

Eric Griffin is playing on a 2nd level pro team in Italy. These teams can only have 2 American players and the other on his team is Jesse Sanders from Liberty...

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry...101&Page=1

I actually think Liberty doesn't play on Wednesday nights at home. They played at High Point on a Wednesday night earlier on January

Thats great to hear about Eric Griffin good to see him have such success!
I tell you I did not watch the game last night. But the last two games we lost CC and Liberty both had 31 and 33 free throw attempts. So I looked at the VMI game they had 31 attempts as well. You know I watched the VMI game on TV and I thought the refs had a strong influence on the game. Does anybody know if was like that in these last two games. I just think especially it looked like in yesterdays game when you have that many fouls players cannot play as aggressive. Love to hear what yall think?

(01-30-2013 07:37 AM)toley2345 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 06:34 AM)Chad4Life Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 08:06 PM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  Listening to Heymeyer/Smith and learning some things....

Liberty doesn't play on Wednesdays.

Campbell has never won in the Vines Center.

Eric Griffin is playing on a 2nd level pro team in Italy. These teams can only have 2 American players and the other on his team is Jesse Sanders from Liberty...

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry...101&Page=1

I actually think Liberty doesn't play on Wednesday nights at home. They played at High Point on a Wednesday night earlier on January

Thats great to hear about Eric Griffin good to see him have such success!
I tell you I did not watch the game last night. But the last two games we lost CC and Liberty both had 31 and 33 free throw attempts. So I looked at the VMI game they had 31 attempts as well. You know I watched the VMI game on TV and I thought the refs had a strong influence on the game. Does anybody know if was like that in these last two games. I just think especially it looked like in yesterdays game when you have that many fouls players cannot play as aggressive. Love to hear what yall think?

I agree about the aggressive aspect. Also, Darius Leonard was off to such a great start in conference play and seems to have diminished lately. Hopefully, we can draw more fouls and get more points in the paint. Leek and Oliver seem to me to still be trying to find where they belong unfortunately. I do like the way Trey seems to be coming alive in the second half of every game if only he played that aggressively all game. In closing, when the second team comes in, I'd like to see what Casey Perrin has at point guard, rather than Jordan Faciane but it's whatever I guess.

Steal to alley-layup #8 on SC Top 10?...

(01-31-2013 12:25 PM)fightingcamel2594 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 07:37 AM)toley2345 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 06:34 AM)Chad4Life Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 08:06 PM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  Listening to Heymeyer/Smith and learning some things....

Liberty doesn't play on Wednesdays.

Campbell has never won in the Vines Center.

Eric Griffin is playing on a 2nd level pro team in Italy. These teams can only have 2 American players and the other on his team is Jesse Sanders from Liberty...

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry...101&Page=1

I actually think Liberty doesn't play on Wednesday nights at home. They played at High Point on a Wednesday night earlier on January

Thats great to hear about Eric Griffin good to see him have such success!
I tell you I did not watch the game last night. But the last two games we lost CC and Liberty both had 31 and 33 free throw attempts. So I looked at the VMI game they had 31 attempts as well. You know I watched the VMI game on TV and I thought the refs had a strong influence on the game. Does anybody know if was like that in these last two games. I just think especially it looked like in yesterdays game when you have that many fouls players cannot play as aggressive. Love to hear what yall think?

I agree about the aggressive aspect. Also, Darius Leonard was off to such a great start in conference play and seems to have diminished lately. Hopefully, we can draw more fouls and get more points in the paint. Leek and Oliver seem to me to still be trying to find where they belong unfortunately. I do like the way Trey seems to be coming alive in the second half of every game if only he played that aggressively all game. In closing, when the second team comes in, I'd like to see what Casey Perrin has at point guard, rather than Jordan Faciane but it's whatever I guess.

Perrin is a walk-on and will not play any meaningful minutes (There is a big reason why he isn't on a scholarship at a DI school). I don't know where you get Faciane is even playing. He got late minutes against Liberty but outside of that hasn't played in a game since December 19th at Gonzaga...again in a blowout. Freeman is playing 36 minutes a game overall and 37 in the league. There is no back up point guard at this time and when there is a need it can be covered up by Ryan or Hooker for the few possessions Freeman isn't on the floor.

(02-01-2013 12:15 PM)Statman101 Wrote:  

(01-31-2013 12:25 PM)fightingcamel2594 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 07:37 AM)toley2345 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 06:34 AM)Chad4Life Wrote:  

(01-29-2013 08:06 PM)OrangeCamel Wrote:  Listening to Heymeyer/Smith and learning some things....

Liberty doesn't play on Wednesdays.

Campbell has never won in the Vines Center.

Eric Griffin is playing on a 2nd level pro team in Italy. These teams can only have 2 American players and the other on his team is Jesse Sanders from Liberty...

http://www.eurobasket.com/team.asp?Cntry...101&Page=1

I actually think Liberty doesn't play on Wednesday nights at home. They played at High Point on a Wednesday night earlier on January

Thats great to hear about Eric Griffin good to see him have such success!
I tell you I did not watch the game last night. But the last two games we lost CC and Liberty both had 31 and 33 free throw attempts. So I looked at the VMI game they had 31 attempts as well. You know I watched the VMI game on TV and I thought the refs had a strong influence on the game. Does anybody know if was like that in these last two games. I just think especially it looked like in yesterdays game when you have that many fouls players cannot play as aggressive. Love to hear what yall think?

I agree about the aggressive aspect. Also, Darius Leonard was off to such a great start in conference play and seems to have diminished lately. Hopefully, we can draw more fouls and get more points in the paint. Leek and Oliver seem to me to still be trying to find where they belong unfortunately. I do like the way Trey seems to be coming alive in the second half of every game if only he played that aggressively all game. In closing, when the second team comes in, I'd like to see what Casey Perrin has at point guard, rather than Jordan Faciane but it's whatever I guess.

Perrin is a walk-on and will not play any meaningful minutes (There is a big reason why he isn't on a scholarship at a DI school). I don't know where you get Faciane is even playing. He got late minutes against Liberty but outside of that hasn't played in a game since December 19th at Gonzaga...again in a blowout. Freeman is playing 36 minutes a game overall and 37 in the league. There is no back up point guard at this time and when there is a need it can be covered up by Ryan or Hooker for the few possessions Freeman isn't on the floor.

I understand he's a walk-on, but it never hurts to give someone a shot. Faciane got a few minutes several games in a row back in November, and like you said he gets late minutes in games. I just believe (and I'm going off of warmups and what I've heard about practices) that Perrin might be a better fit in those situations than Faciane. I'm perfectly fine with Trey playing those minutes as long as he doesn't get too worn down with Hooker playing backup when needed, but I'm just saying.

I've heard that the Big South allows 15 players on scholarship. If we have 16 players and several walk-ons, do they give scholarships to some of them or do we only have like 12 scholarship players? Also, if it is the first option, who is the one not on scholarship?

(02-02-2013 10:38 AM)fightingcamel2594 Wrote:  I've heard that the Big South allows 15 players on scholarship. If we have 16 players and several walk-ons, do they give scholarships to some of them or do we only have like 12 scholarship players? Also, if it is the first option, who is the one not on scholarship?

NCAA Regulations only allow 13 scholarships for Men's Basketball (15 for women.) Those 13 scholarships have to be in full for each player (cannot divide 13 scholarships among 26 players.

(02-02-2013 10:35 AM)fightingcamel2594 Wrote:  

(02-01-2013 12:15 PM)Statman101 Wrote:  

(01-31-2013 12:25 PM)fightingcamel2594 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 07:37 AM)toley2345 Wrote:  

(01-30-2013 06:34 AM)Chad4Life Wrote:  I actually think Liberty doesn't play on Wednesday nights at home. They played at High Point on a Wednesday night earlier on January

Thats great to hear about Eric Griffin good to see him have such success!
I tell you I did not watch the game last night. But the last two games we lost CC and Liberty both had 31 and 33 free throw attempts. So I looked at the VMI game they had 31 attempts as well. You know I watched the VMI game on TV and I thought the refs had a strong influence on the game. Does anybody know if was like that in these last two games. I just think especially it looked like in yesterdays game when you have that many fouls players cannot play as aggressive. Love to hear what yall think?

I agree about the aggressive aspect. Also, Darius Leonard was off to such a great start in conference play and seems to have diminished lately. Hopefully, we can draw more fouls and get more points in the paint. Leek and Oliver seem to me to still be trying to find where they belong unfortunately. I do like the way Trey seems to be coming alive in the second half of every game if only he played that aggressively all game. In closing, when the second team comes in, I'd like to see what Casey Perrin has at point guard, rather than Jordan Faciane but it's whatever I guess.

Perrin is a walk-on and will not play any meaningful minutes (There is a big reason why he isn't on a scholarship at a DI school). I don't know where you get Faciane is even playing. He got late minutes against Liberty but outside of that hasn't played in a game since December 19th at Gonzaga...again in a blowout. Freeman is playing 36 minutes a game overall and 37 in the league. There is no back up point guard at this time and when there is a need it can be covered up by Ryan or Hooker for the few possessions Freeman isn't on the floor.

I understand he's a walk-on, but it never hurts to give someone a shot. Faciane got a few minutes several games in a row back in November, and like you said he gets late minutes in games. I just believe (and I'm going off of warmups and what I've heard about practices) that Perrin might be a better fit in those situations than Faciane. I'm perfectly fine with Trey playing those minutes as long as he doesn't get too worn down with Hooker playing backup when needed, but I'm just saying.

It only hurts if he can't play and if playing in junk time for Faciane is not a good fit then I'm confused. Your original post made it sound like Faciane had been playing considerable back up minutes. The kid has played in five of the 23 games and only like 34 minutes all year. If playing Perrin when the game is out of hand either way is what you want, have at it.

I personally don't consider him much more than a walk-on at this point who is a practice player (and very little at that), but that is going off what I have seen. I think alot of players can look good in a uniform and a lay-up line but when the lights turn on and DI scholarship player is guarding you, alot of things change.

Wasn't there another thread about this "back-up" point guard topic before the season and Perrin playing?

Yes, there was. That is the main reason I'm mentioning it. Even though he's a walk-on, I remember hearing a little bit of hype about him and the possibility that he would get some minutes. That's why I just wonder if it was all fake or if he did look good early on and has regressed a bit while others, such as Faciane, have progressed.

Also, thanks for the clarification on the scholarship regulations. I had heard 15 from someone associated with the women's basketball program so that would make sense.

(02-04-2013 03:38 PM)fightingcamel2594 Wrote:  Yes, there was. That is the main reason I'm mentioning it. Even though he's a walk-on, I remember hearing a little bit of hype about him and the possibility that he would get some minutes. That's why I just wonder if it was all fake or if he did look good early on and has regressed a bit while others, such as Faciane, have progressed.

Also, thanks for the clarification on the scholarship regulations. I had heard 15 from someone associated with the women's basketball program so that would make sense.

I don't think the "hype" was from anyone credible (And no I don't mean that as a slam against anyone). If Coach Laing had said it or even the school newspaper, then maybe...just maybe, but from what I know...walk ons are walk ons for a reason. They aren't good enough to be on scholarship.

You have exceptions. Preston Dodson was one. The difference is Preston was a DI athlete in all sense of the word considering he chose basketball over his best sport football.

I will go out on a very sturdy limb and say that Perrin never had any other options AND he will probably never play many meaningful minutes at the DI level. I could be wrong, but statistically speaking its more of a possibility he won't play. He sort of reminds me a Jacob Capin. I don't expect everyone to know who that is...a walk on from a few years back who had to transfer to DIII to play.

I heard the rumors about him from someone who is at every practice, but I think at the time, they were mainly mentioning that he picked up the playbook better than the other transfers/freshmen at the time and therefore looked now. I agree that he probably won't ever see significant playing time, but once you hear about how well someone is doing, you just don't necessarily expect for it to just disappear. However, I do understand that the other players have progressed now and are therefore much better since they can match their brains and talent with our playing style.

I noticed an interesting trend looking at the last 3 losses (I didn't want to take the time to look further than the Winthrop Game) In the last 3 losses CU has allowed the other team to shoot over 50% from behind the 3 point line and close to or over 50% from the field for the game. I was at the game against Winthrop and we held them to 39% from the field but they missed plenty of wide open opportunities underneath the basket. It seems that the defense at least lately has really let the team down.