(01-26-2013 12:44 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 12:24 AM)DrBox Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 11:50 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  DrBox, I wasn't trying to say that you had good coaches recently. It just seemed like the Green Wave had what appeared to be an ability to hire pretty decent coaches decades ago; obviously that doesn't transfer to recent history.

Oh I know. I just took the opportunity to heap some of my frustration onto your post. Sorry.
On another subject, I liked C-USA. Every TU fan I know loves the USM series. If our administration isn't interested, we'll I guess it doesn't surprise me. But the thing is, we have relationships with at least as many teams in the conference to which were moving, than we do in the conference from which we're moving; the new league has far fewer teams that we've never played. I'm going to take advantage of our swan song. I'm going to Ruston - haven't been there since high school; I'm going to Boca (been there a lot) and I'm going to San Antonio (never been there). Wish we were playing at the Rock.

CUSA has been a 100% fun ride with a bunch of great programs and outstanding fans. In the history of the conference, to my knowledge every program is today or was when it left, better than it was when they joined. Lots of good folks here and around the conference and I'm sure that the entering programs/fans will find the same.

Just not good enough to join the grand bastards of the big east.

(01-26-2013 12:44 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  In the history of the conference, to my knowledge every program is today or was when it left, better than it was when they joined. Lots of good folks here and around the conference and I'm sure that the entering programs/fans will find the same.

I first posted that l we're a notable exception to that, although it wasn't C-USA's fault. On the other hand, our baseball and football teams reached their modern peaks while in C-USA.

(01-26-2013 12:51 AM)Noodles Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 12:44 AM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(01-26-2013 12:24 AM)DrBox Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 11:50 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  DrBox, I wasn't trying to say that you had good coaches recently. It just seemed like the Green Wave had what appeared to be an ability to hire pretty decent coaches decades ago; obviously that doesn't transfer to recent history.

Oh I know. I just took the opportunity to heap some of my frustration onto your post. Sorry.
On another subject, I liked C-USA. Every TU fan I know loves the USM series. If our administration isn't interested, we'll I guess it doesn't surprise me. But the thing is, we have relationships with at least as many teams in the conference to which were moving, than we do in the conference from which we're moving; the new league has far fewer teams that we've never played. I'm going to take advantage of our swan song. I'm going to Ruston - haven't been there since high school; I'm going to Boca (been there a lot) and I'm going to San Antonio (never been there). Wish we were playing at the Rock.

CUSA has been a 100% fun ride with a bunch of great programs and outstanding fans. In the history of the conference, to my knowledge every program is today or was when it left, better than it was when they joined. Lots of good folks here and around the conference and I'm sure that the entering programs/fans will find the same.

Just not good enough to join the grand bastards of the big east.

Noodles you kill me lmao

Great post, OP. I've posted my info on the Realignment board about how things look likely to eventually settle out according to everyone I happen to know, but the ultimate truth is that we're all going to be the same financial and competitive boat very soon.


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After Katrina, NO's lost much of its population. Without the usual Chamber of Commerce type of blue sky response on actual population numbers, just how many citizens from your great city actually came back? Are there any official links for the answer to that question.

Good luck, Tulane U,

(01-26-2013 06:19 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  After Katrina, NO's lost much of its population. Without the usual Chamber of Commerce type of blue sky response on actual population numbers, just how many citizens from your great city actually came back? Are there any official links for the answer to that question.

Good luck, Tulane U,

We're at about 3/4ths maybe? And that 1/4th of houses is sitting empty and dilapidated. It's all localized in a highly african american low tourism part of town. Rich white uptown is back and better than ever.

(01-25-2013 01:19 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  You are right ng....we are dead...lmfao

Southern Miss athletics is in a tough spot, no doubt, but I think it can survive and eventually overcome the obstacles in its path. Tulane athletics, IMHO -- barring a fundamental shift in institutional priorites of the past 60 years -- simply could not survive in the new C-USA starting next year.

(01-25-2013 12:18 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  As a Tulane fan, I should be thrilled that we're joining what appears to be a better conference than Conference USA. For the first few weeks it seemed as if this was going to be the big springboard that exposes Tulane's athletic faults (we're finally addressing those, lol) and causes growth to take place (especially in the facilities department). And so far, I still think those things will happen. Facilities are being updated for both the basketball and football teams. New coaches are in place at Tulane - and we're finally recruiting for football like we really should.

All of this growth is great, but I'm beginning to wonder at what cost will all this come. C-USA come 2015 will be loaded with schools THAT ACTUALLY CAN RELATE TO TULANE.

The "battle for the bell" with Southern Miss is now officially dead. A battle between the academic privates in Rice-Tulane is now dead. (Both Rice and S. Miss were GREAT baseball match-ups for Tulane, by the way.) Tulsa and Tulane don't have a rivalry as of yet - but they are very similar in more ways than one. Tulane-Charlotte sounds like it would've been a fun game in a few years as well (an all-sports rivalry, mind you).

That's not all of it, either. Here's the real kicker, folks: Louisiana Tech and Tulane could have been a fantastic all-sports rivalry that made sense considering program history, size, and location. That's right, I said fantastic rivalry - especially once Yulman is finished around 2014/2015 so Tulane can properly play a home game. Tulane has never had a proper "derby" opponent from its own state since they left the SEC back in the day (LSU v Tulane was the big one in that era). Our program NEEDS A PROPER LOCAL RIVAL.

The nBE has some strong programs in it, but I don't think many of them even give a toss about Tulane (for better or worse).

Temple and Tulane have no relationship. UConn and Tulane have no relationship. In my eyes there was never any C-USA vitriol or true relationship with UCF, USF, or ECU in last few years - and I think fans from those three would agree as well.

There are only four opponents in the nBE that I'm really interested in - and even with those four there isn't the regional fire that we're leaving behind. UH-Tulane will be a decent basketball game, but a heavy UH win in football. Memphis-Tulane will be tight in football, but a heavy Memphis win in basketball. Cincinnati will probably dump us to the curb in both sports for a few years until our recruiting finally kicks in.

The Tulane-SMU fixture is the only good one in my eyes. We're usually at each others' throats in both sports (win or lose), and we share a lot in common being old-school southern private universities.

I'll miss you all going forward. Thanks to the almighty RPI and TV Dollar, Tulane just traded 5-6 good matchups for a measly 2-3 (depending on hwo things develop). Just because the nBE is better on an absolute scale does NOT make it better for Tulane on a regional level.

No need to be so cynical.

Tulane can still play USM, Rice and even La. Tech in Basketball and Baseball. "The Battle for the Bell"? Fairly new as far as rivalries go and very one-sided.

Why assume we'll get beaten badly by UH in Football, Memphis in BBall and Cinn.? The New BE is a step up and we've shown that we're poised to invest in being better....and we better be because this will be a more competitive league. The rivalries will come and could be very good. Yeah there are some things to miss about CUSA but this is very much the move to make for us, even before the changes that happened after we decided to join the BE.

(01-25-2013 10:52 PM)DrBox Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 06:56 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  If CJ doesn't work out, it doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad HC. But it would mean two guys in a row who didn't do anything at all, which hasn't happened since Davis / Teevens.

For all of these great coaches you say we've had, there has not been a single coach at Tulane, not one, who has failed to succeed at Tulane and gone on to win somewhere else.
DAvis didn't recruit and was a simple coach; English was a disaster....he single-handedly ended Tulane football accepting JCs because he so absued the process (JCs who didn't qualify out of High School, which is 99.99% of them in the south); Scelfo was mediocre and quit recruiting and spent more time making excuses than coaching (my grandmother could have coached our 1999 team to 6 wins).
We've had our moments, which is more than I can say for a lot of our bashers (obviously not USM).

Teevens has done alright at Dartmouth. Of course he had to go to UF then Stanford first. The Stanford job was surely a failure. How he became HC there? Nice to have friends in high places...

(01-25-2013 12:18 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  That's not all of it, either. Here's the real kicker, folks: Louisiana Tech and Tulane could have been a fantastic all-sports rivalry that made sense considering program history, size, and location. That's right, I said fantastic rivalry - especially once Yulman is finished around 2014/2015 so Tulane can properly play a home game. Tulane has never had a proper "derby" opponent from its own state since they left the SEC back in the day (LSU v Tulane was the big one in that era). Our program NEEDS A PROPER LOCAL RIVAL.

Hey Tulane.....we hardly knew ya! Sure wish you guys were staying in CUSA. I agree, a strong "rivalry" between Tulane and LA Tech was inevitable with us sharing CUSA membership. It coulda been great; North vs South. Rednecks vs Coon Asses. Good vs evil.

Best of luck to you guys in the Little East.

(01-25-2013 01:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  FWIW: my family is from Louisiana and I'm not from the northeast. We've always respected Tulane as one of the best gulf Universities and I'm happy I attended.

I like playing Rice, USM. LaTech can shove it ;]

(mom went to ULM, aunt went to ULM, I went to Tulane)

We're gonna shove it alright.....right up your team's arse when you come to Ruston next fall.

(01-26-2013 02:57 PM)Wavebacker Wrote:  

(01-25-2013 12:18 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  As a Tulane fan, I should be thrilled that we're joining what appears to be a better conference than Conference USA. For the first few weeks it seemed as if this was going to be the big springboard that exposes Tulane's athletic faults (we're finally addressing those, lol) and causes growth to take place (especially in the facilities department). And so far, I still think those things will happen. Facilities are being updated for both the basketball and football teams. New coaches are in place at Tulane - and we're finally recruiting for football like we really should.

All of this growth is great, but I'm beginning to wonder at what cost will all this come. C-USA come 2015 will be loaded with schools THAT ACTUALLY CAN RELATE TO TULANE.

The "battle for the bell" with Southern Miss is now officially dead. A battle between the academic privates in Rice-Tulane is now dead. (Both Rice and S. Miss were GREAT baseball match-ups for Tulane, by the way.) Tulsa and Tulane don't have a rivalry as of yet - but they are very similar in more ways than one. Tulane-Charlotte sounds like it would've been a fun game in a few years as well (an all-sports rivalry, mind you).

That's not all of it, either. Here's the real kicker, folks: Louisiana Tech and Tulane could have been a fantastic all-sports rivalry that made sense considering program history, size, and location. That's right, I said fantastic rivalry - especially once Yulman is finished around 2014/2015 so Tulane can properly play a home game. Tulane has never had a proper "derby" opponent from its own state since they left the SEC back in the day (LSU v Tulane was the big one in that era). Our program NEEDS A PROPER LOCAL RIVAL.

The nBE has some strong programs in it, but I don't think many of them even give a toss about Tulane (for better or worse).

Temple and Tulane have no relationship. UConn and Tulane have no relationship. In my eyes there was never any C-USA vitriol or true relationship with UCF, USF, or ECU in last few years - and I think fans from those three would agree as well.

There are only four opponents in the nBE that I'm really interested in - and even with those four there isn't the regional fire that we're leaving behind. UH-Tulane will be a decent basketball game, but a heavy UH win in football. Memphis-Tulane will be tight in football, but a heavy Memphis win in basketball. Cincinnati will probably dump us to the curb in both sports for a few years until our recruiting finally kicks in.

The Tulane-SMU fixture is the only good one in my eyes. We're usually at each others' throats in both sports (win or lose), and we share a lot in common being old-school southern private universities.

I'll miss you all going forward. Thanks to the almighty RPI and TV Dollar, Tulane just traded 5-6 good matchups for a measly 2-3 (depending on hwo things develop). Just because the nBE is better on an absolute scale does NOT make it better for Tulane on a regional level.

No need to be so cynical.

Tulane can still play USM, Rice and even La. Tech in Basketball and Baseball. "The Battle for the Bell"? Fairly new as far as rivalries go and very one-sided.

Why assume we'll get beaten badly by UH in Football, Memphis in BBall and Cinn.? The New BE is a step up and we've shown that we're poised to invest in being better....and we better be because this will be a more competitive league. The rivalries will come and could be very good. Yeah there are some things to miss about CUSA but this is very much the move to make for us, even before the changes that happened after we decided to join the BE.

You guys have invested over and over for years with no results. A slipping baseball program who boasts of new fine facility.

As far as playing us goes. You wont have it both ways. Its conf games or nothing.

I'm nervous about playing Houston and Cincinnati because they will be upgrading just like we are. UH - who already were decent at recruiting - will also step up their game and target 4* options going forward.

Can Tulane make bowl games while in the nBE? Sure - but they'll need to build up to the 7-5 level FIRST before we start looking at contending for a conference title. Baby steps.

UH and Cincy have been at it for YEARS already.