(01-20-2013 05:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:03 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 01:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  [quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861891' dateline='1358705658']
[quote='UofMemphis' pid='8861830' dateline='1358704983']
[quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861259' dateline='1358696386']
How long will the so called Big East have a name? They could lose their name and have to call themselves the Orphan's Conference or something. If Tulsa wants to go I say fine, but I really don't see it as being worth the money and effort.

We won't lose the BE name unless we decide to sell it to them...they are leaving the BE...not the other way around.


Again, c7 is leaving the BE and not BE leaving c7; therefore, BE name should stay with remaining teams of BE. Also most folks have no idea who are the c7!

Assuming the media reports are correct (and who knows unless someone leaked the docs to them), the C7 departure was under an agreement the league created that permitted a departure of all football or all non-football without penalty and required that the league's assets be divided between the two groups.

The C7 has 7 claims on the assets and UConn/Cincy/USF three claims. So C7 owns a 70% claim on the assets. The name and logos are assets.

If they want them, most likely they trade part of their 70% claim on departure fees to avoid forcing an auction.

that's only if the league is dissolved...they have simply voted to leave...the BE by laws say if they vote to leave together they can leave with no penalty and take their NCAA credits...that's all.

(01-20-2013 05:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 04:56 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Memphis is awful and Im sorry you suck at internet.

"Suck at Internet"

What are you, 12?

Im 40. That probably makes it even more pathetic

fml

(01-20-2013 05:35 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 04:56 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Memphis is awful and Im sorry you suck at internet.

"Suck at Internet"

What are you, 12?

Im 40. That probably makes it even more pathetic

fml

for some reason I see the OSU coach screaming "Im a man! I'm 40"

I think you guys will fit in just fine...

(01-20-2013 05:35 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 04:56 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Memphis is awful and Im sorry you suck at internet.

"Suck at Internet"

What are you, 12?

Im 40. That probably makes it even more pathetic

fml

You're a man!

(01-20-2013 05:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:35 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:28 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 04:56 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Memphis is awful and Im sorry you suck at internet.

"Suck at Internet"

What are you, 12?

Im 40. That probably makes it even more pathetic

fml

for some reason I see the OSU coach screaming "Im a man! I'm 40"

I think you guys will fit in just fine...

Damn, you beat me to it!

(01-20-2013 05:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:03 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 01:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  [quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861891' dateline='1358705658']
[quote='UofMemphis' pid='8861830' dateline='1358704983']
[quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861259' dateline='1358696386']
How long will the so called Big East have a name? They could lose their name and have to call themselves the Orphan's Conference or something. If Tulsa wants to go I say fine, but I really don't see it as being worth the money and effort.

We won't lose the BE name unless we decide to sell it to them...they are leaving the BE...not the other way around.


Again, c7 is leaving the BE and not BE leaving c7; therefore, BE name should stay with remaining teams of BE. Also most folks have no idea who are the c7!

Assuming the media reports are correct (and who knows unless someone leaked the docs to them), the C7 departure was under an agreement the league created that permitted a departure of all football or all non-football without penalty and required that the league's assets be divided between the two groups.

The C7 has 7 claims on the assets and UConn/Cincy/USF three claims. So C7 owns a 70% claim on the assets. The name and logos are assets.

If they want them, most likely they trade part of their 70% claim on departure fees to avoid forcing an auction.

that's only if the league is dissolved...they have simply voted to leave...the BE by laws say if they vote to leave together they can leave with no penalty and take their NCAA credits...that's all.

Notre Dame AD says departure complicated by split because assets have to de divided
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12...notre.html

Assets to be divided
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4451

(01-20-2013 05:30 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:03 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 01:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  [quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861891' dateline='1358705658']
[quote='UofMemphis' pid='8861830' dateline='1358704983']
[quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861259' dateline='1358696386']
How long will the so called Big East have a name? They could lose their name and have to call themselves the Orphan's Conference or something. If Tulsa wants to go I say fine, but I really don't see it as being worth the money and effort.

We won't lose the BE name unless we decide to sell it to them...they are leaving the BE...not the other way around.


Again, c7 is leaving the BE and not BE leaving c7; therefore, BE name should stay with remaining teams of BE. Also most folks have no idea who are the c7!

Assuming the media reports are correct (and who knows unless someone leaked the docs to them), the C7 departure was under an agreement the league created that permitted a departure of all football or all non-football without penalty and required that the league's assets be divided between the two groups.

The C7 has 7 claims on the assets and UConn/Cincy/USF three claims. So C7 owns a 70% claim on the assets. The name and logos are assets.

If they want them, most likely they trade part of their 70% claim on departure fees to avoid forcing an auction.

We dont know what the documents say, but it may be a 50/50 split between football and basketball.

And if that's the case they own a 50% stake in those assets.

Either way someone is going to waive their claim to part of the money to get the name and logos.

(01-20-2013 11:06 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 10:58 AM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 10:55 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 10:39 AM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  How long will the so called Big East have a name? They could lose their name and have to call themselves the Orphan's Conference or something. If Tulsa wants to go I say fine, but I really don't see it as being worth the money and effort.

4 x the money each year....That is all that has to be said.

I understand that claim but frankly where is that big money coming from when the TV contract looks to be in trouble of being little to no increase, and the media is pretty much in step on saying it is just another C-USA now? I would like to know how the conference is going to provide that big money when it hasn't shown the income to pay it.

Meant to type 3-4 x the money than CUSA...That is not big money at all compared to the "Big 5" conferences. All of the latest estimates are saying anywhere from 3 to 5 million a year. Not great money but a good increase. I am not going to get into an argument about it because I sure as hell do not have any proof but it appears that the estimates for the money are starting to come in line....We should know soon enough and all the speculation can end. I do not understand why people keep calling this among big money...It is still a drop in the bucket comparatively e

The nBE will sign a tv contract that looks a lot like c-usa's current contract because the nBE looks a lot like the current c-usa. It's simply irrational to think you are going to triple up (or better) because the big east that no longer exists had value.

(01-20-2013 04:57 PM)panicstricken Wrote:  Memphis has a few 6-6 seasons in the early part of the 2000s and they are a football powerhouse.

We've had our struggles in football and no one is going to deny that. However, if you want any of your comments to be taken seriously, you need to check your facts regarding the 2000's....or you can check the Tulsa series record with this doormat football program.

The Golden Hurricane will probably have an opportunity to choose between 3 conferences soon, best wishes in making the best choice for the university.

(01-20-2013 05:49 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:03 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 01:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  [quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861891' dateline='1358705658']
[quote='UofMemphis' pid='8861830' dateline='1358704983']
[quote='SgtGoldenEagle' pid='8861259' dateline='1358696386']
How long will the so called Big East have a name? They could lose their name and have to call themselves the Orphan's Conference or something. If Tulsa wants to go I say fine, but I really don't see it as being worth the money and effort.

We won't lose the BE name unless we decide to sell it to them...they are leaving the BE...not the other way around.


Again, c7 is leaving the BE and not BE leaving c7; therefore, BE name should stay with remaining teams of BE. Also most folks have no idea who are the c7!

Assuming the media reports are correct (and who knows unless someone leaked the docs to them), the C7 departure was under an agreement the league created that permitted a departure of all football or all non-football without penalty and required that the league's assets be divided between the two groups.

The C7 has 7 claims on the assets and UConn/Cincy/USF three claims. So C7 owns a 70% claim on the assets. The name and logos are assets.

If they want them, most likely they trade part of their 70% claim on departure fees to avoid forcing an auction.

that's only if the league is dissolved...they have simply voted to leave...the BE by laws say if they vote to leave together they can leave with no penalty and take their NCAA credits...that's all.

Notre Dame AD says departure complicated by split because assets have to de divided
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12...notre.html

Assets to be divided
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4451

I don't believe anyone denies the remaining schools, including the C7, are entitled to the exit fee money...the noobs aren't in the conf yet so they wouldn't get any of that...so that would have to be divided up...I don't see what that has to do with the BEs name.

The Tulsa administration and fans were some of the biggest proponents of the C-USA (as it is until the end of June) holding together. If Tulsa move to the Big East, it will be a move to get us back closer to that 2005 alignment.

(01-20-2013 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:49 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:31 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 05:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 03:03 PM)r2pirate Wrote:  We won't lose the BE name unless we decide to sell it to them...they are leaving the BE...not the other way around.


Again, c7 is leaving the BE and not BE leaving c7; therefore, BE name should stay with remaining teams of BE. Also most folks have no idea who are the c7!

Assuming the media reports are correct (and who knows unless someone leaked the docs to them), the C7 departure was under an agreement the league created that permitted a departure of all football or all non-football without penalty and required that the league's assets be divided between the two groups.

The C7 has 7 claims on the assets and UConn/Cincy/USF three claims. So C7 owns a 70% claim on the assets. The name and logos are assets.

If they want them, most likely they trade part of their 70% claim on departure fees to avoid forcing an auction.

that's only if the league is dissolved...they have simply voted to leave...the BE by laws say if they vote to leave together they can leave with no penalty and take their NCAA credits...that's all.

Notre Dame AD says departure complicated by split because assets have to de divided
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/12...notre.html

Assets to be divided
http://ajerseyguy.com/?p=4451

I don't believe anyone denies the remaining schools, including the C7, are entitled to the exit fee money...the noobs aren't in the conf yet so they wouldn't get any of that...so that would have to be divided up...I don't see what that has to do with the BEs name.

The name is an asset.

When Rivals went bankrupt, a group bought two assets from the bankruptcy trustee. The name Rivals and the domain name.

Multiple articles say if all departed the assets were to be divided. The name and logos are assets.

Now that doesn't mean the writers knew what they were talking about but if the assets are to be divided, the name is up for grabs in the process.

I have a feeling this will end like the "colts" name battle...in court.