Why choose between SLU and VCU? What can't we just take both?

You play half the conference twice and the other half once, then play the other half twice the following year.

We get both quality program and quality tv market.

Here's thinking out of the box

C7 agree to take SLU on the term that they...hire Shaka Smart.

(01-19-2013 09:19 PM)ivet Wrote:  Here's thinking out of the box

C7 agree to take SLU on the term that they...hire Shaka Smart.

OR....They dig up Rick Marjerus and clone his @$$!

Seriously, just take 14 by adding Creighton, X, Butler, VCU, SLU, Dayton and Gonzaga. Fox would probably pay more money for that. That league would be top 3 every year w/6-7 bids out of 14. For some reason, the C7 is probably pretty conservative but that league would rival any and make a HUGE splash.

(01-19-2013 09:52 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  Seriously, just take 14 by adding Creighton, X, Butler, VCU, SLU, Dayton and Gonzaga. Fox would probably pay more money for that. That league would be top 3 every year w/6-7 bids out of 14. For some reason, the C7 is probably pretty conservative but that league would rival any and make a HUGE splash.

Gonzaga is great but way to far west for the rest of our sports.

My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

(01-19-2013 10:13 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

I like Gonzaga, but there is zero chance that they are in, at least in the first wave. If we go to 16 then they are definitely in the mix.

(01-19-2013 10:13 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

impossible, but also a terrible idea.

(01-19-2013 11:04 PM)thegalen Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 10:13 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

impossible, but also a terrible idea.

Some people might believe it is a terrible idea but it's not "impossible."

(01-19-2013 11:19 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:04 PM)thegalen Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 10:13 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

impossible, but also a terrible idea.

Some people might believe it is a terrible idea but it's not "impossible."

The only way I ever see gonzaga is if their other sports remain in another conference and no other conference is going to agree to do that

Am I the only one that wants 10?

Twelve is too many, but if TV forces it, I guess.

More? Absolutely not

13 works as long as Fox will increase the TV deal to pay the 13th member (i.e., its share doesn't come out of the other 12).

Scheduling can work. The BE scheduled 13 from 1993 through 2000 or so. Four year rotation, playing every other school 6 times during that period. Tournament scheduling gets more difficult, though -- trying to scheule 5 games into day 1.

(01-20-2013 09:33 AM)Title Wrote:  Am I the only one that wants 10?

Twelve is too many, but if TV forces it, I guess.

More? Absolutely not

Yes you are and 12 is NOT to many. We'd be one of the smallest conferences out there. You can't sit at ten when the powers are going to fourteen and beyond.

(01-20-2013 06:35 AM)78friar Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:19 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:04 PM)thegalen Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 10:13 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

impossible, but also a terrible idea.

Some people might believe it is a terrible idea but it's not "impossible."

The only way I ever see gonzaga is if their other sports remain in another conference and no other conference is going to agree to do that

Exactly but there are plenty of other possibilities for 14. If you take VCU then Wichita State becomes interesting.

Great rival for Creighton and in basketball crazy Kansas. We could take St Joes and double down in Philly. Plenty of options.

(01-20-2013 11:17 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:35 AM)78friar Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:19 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:04 PM)thegalen Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 10:13 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  My opinion is if the money is good which it sounds like it is and Gonzaga is willing which it appears that they are then what's the harm? Gonzaga will be doing the majority of the travel, the other teams will have to go to Spokane once a year or once every other year for all sports.

impossible, but also a terrible idea.

Some people might believe it is a terrible idea but it's not "impossible."

The only way I ever see gonzaga is if their other sports remain in another conference and no other conference is going to agree to do that

Exactly but there are plenty of other possibilities for 14. If you take VCU then Wichita State becomes interesting.

Great rival for Creighton and in basketball crazy Kansas. We could take St Joes and double down in Philly. Plenty of options.

I think the C7 presidents are sour on the "national conference" idea from their time in the Big East and watching that fail. Schools that are not in geographic footprint of the conference will only stay as long as it's convenient. They will build their name and then look for a better geographic option. It happened time and again in the old Big East. Miami, VT, TCU, Boise etc.

(01-20-2013 11:29 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 11:17 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:35 AM)78friar Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:19 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:04 PM)thegalen Wrote:  impossible, but also a terrible idea.

Some people might believe it is a terrible idea but it's not "impossible."

The only way I ever see gonzaga is if their other sports remain in another conference and no other conference is going to agree to do that

Exactly but there are plenty of other possibilities for 14. If you take VCU then Wichita State becomes interesting.

Great rival for Creighton and in basketball crazy Kansas. We could take St Joes and double down in Philly. Plenty of options.

I think the C7 presidents are sour on the "national conference" idea from their time in the Big East and watching that fail. Schools that are not in geographic footprint of the conference will only stay as long as it's convenient. They will build their name and then look for a better geographic option. It happened time and again in the old Big East. Miami, VT, TCU, Boise etc.

which conference do you think would be "better" for a bb first (or only) school?
i agree there are geographical limits (ie gonzaga) but creighton and wichita are not that much of a stretch if you consider they would be in a conference with st louis marquette and depaul.

(01-20-2013 11:48 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 11:29 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 11:17 AM)Sactowndog Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 06:35 AM)78friar Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:19 PM)Jet915 Wrote:  Some people might believe it is a terrible idea but it's not "impossible."

The only way I ever see gonzaga is if their other sports remain in another conference and no other conference is going to agree to do that

Exactly but there are plenty of other possibilities for 14. If you take VCU then Wichita State becomes interesting.

Great rival for Creighton and in basketball crazy Kansas. We could take St Joes and double down in Philly. Plenty of options.

I think the C7 presidents are sour on the "national conference" idea from their time in the Big East and watching that fail. Schools that are not in geographic footprint of the conference will only stay as long as it's convenient. They will build their name and then look for a better geographic option. It happened time and again in the old Big East. Miami, VT, TCU, Boise etc.

which conference do you think would be "better" for a bb first (or only) school?
i agree there are geographical limits (ie gonzaga) but creighton and wichita are not that much of a stretch if you consider they would be in a conference with st louis marquette and depaul.

Well they fall under the geographic footprint of this league.

(01-20-2013 09:33 AM)Title Wrote:  Am I the only one that wants 10?

Twelve is too many, but if TV forces it, I guess.

More? Absolutely not

No, me too. The C-7, you, Xavier and VCU. Keep it elite.

(01-20-2013 11:51 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 11:48 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  which conference do you think would be "better" for a bb first (or only) school?
i agree there are geographical limits (ie gonzaga) but creighton and wichita are not that much of a stretch if you consider they would be in a conference with st louis marquette and depaul.

Well they fall under the geographic footprint of this league.

Definitely. If Wichita State had the resume, geography wouldn't be a problem. It's eastern Kansas, not California.

(01-20-2013 12:56 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 11:51 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(01-20-2013 11:48 AM)gosports1 Wrote:  which conference do you think would be "better" for a bb first (or only) school?
i agree there are geographical limits (ie gonzaga) but creighton and wichita are not that much of a stretch if you consider they would be in a conference with st louis marquette and depaul.

Well they fall under the geographic footprint of this league.

Definitely. If Wichita State had the resume, geography wouldn't be a problem. It's eastern Kansas, not California.

If they go on a few deep runs in the near future and Shaka Smart keeps VCU playing at a high level they might force the C7's hand in regards to expansion and going to 14.