When teams that pre-date Banowsky exit, that improves Banowsky's job security, for what is a well-paid, cushy job. He loses votes that are not beholden to him, and gains votes from those that are. It's also a reason why he beefed the league up to 14...sort of like FDR's attempt to expand the Supreme Court.

(01-13-2013 09:50 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  I think other former BCS so-called "powers" going to the Big Least are like a dog running circles chasing its tail. Anyone ever see a dog catch its tail yet?

GMG!

I've seen some close situations over the years...

(01-13-2013 11:18 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  My understanding is that Strength of Schedule will be a very big factor in determining what school represents the five. I don't think it is as easy as saying a school from Conf USA will beat out a BE school. With this logic, the easiest conf, which is the Sun Belt, will always be the rep from the 5.

Been trying to get my fellow fans to see that for some time, you can't beat it in their heads.

(01-13-2013 09:40 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I know some people like to bash on Banowsky and I've never really understood why. Then I read this quote in reference to departing schools really leaves me scratching my head.

In reference to current schools moving to other conferences.....

“We don't really try and deter that,” Banowsky said. “In fact, we promote it. We want the schools in our conference to be the very best they can possibly be.”

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_n...z2HrkTkCs8

What the hell is this guy thinking? The conference commissioner "Promotes it".....are you kidding? Unbelievable quote. Obviously Thompson doesn't share those same feelings as Banowsky and I cant imagine any other conference commissioner feeling that way either. How about doing everything in your power to keep the schools you really want to make the conference better in the long run over the above quote? Makes no sense to me unless Banowsky was actually happy to see some of those schools leave.

I completely agree with you. As Oldtiger says, Banowsky has consistently said these comments. I think he has been consistently wrong. Who knows how much of his attitude has led to losing half of his conference in 16 months.

(01-13-2013 09:52 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  He's a horrible commissioner.

This is a proud league and he has seen it get clobbered in every round of realignment

he has done as good a job as anyone could given the situation. the big 12 lost teams to the PAC, SEC, and Big 10. how do you expect cusa to hold on to teams when members like ECU spend years begging in public for membership to the big east. louisville made it crystal clear they would leave cusa which caused the mass exodus after that happened the issue was making the best possible conference out of a pile of ****. he has done as good as anyone could have when you consider the situation. why did he add all of those schools? because university presidents have made it known they are leaving as soon as they get an invite and his job is to put the conference in the best situation to move forward. when you have the tulsa president giving interviews saying they are looking to leave that makes things worse.

He needs to go...quickly

(01-13-2013 02:36 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 09:52 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  He's a horrible commissioner.

This is a proud league and he has seen it get clobbered in every round of realignment

he has done as good a job as anyone could given the situation. the big 12 lost teams to the PAC, SEC, and Big 10. how do you expect cusa to hold on to teams when members like ECU spend years begging in public for membership to the big east. louisville made it crystal clear they would leave cusa which caused the mass exodus after that happened the issue was making the best possible conference out of a pile of ****. he has done as good as anyone could have when you consider the situation. why did he add all of those schools? because university presidents have made it known they are leaving as soon as they get an invite and his job is to put the conference in the best situation to move forward. when you have the tulsa president giving interviews saying they are looking to leave that makes things worse.

...falls into the 'duh' category, but some don't get that

...thank you for pointing out the obvious that some ignore

...since my sentiment sometimes gets lost in translation, I am being sincere to your post sir

(01-13-2013 02:30 PM)Tulsafanzz Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 09:40 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I know some people like to bash on Banowsky and I've never really understood why. Then I read this quote in reference to departing schools really leaves me scratching my head.

In reference to current schools moving to other conferences.....

“We don't really try and deter that,” Banowsky said. “In fact, we promote it. We want the schools in our conference to be the very best they can possibly be.”

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_n...z2HrkTkCs8

What the hell is this guy thinking? The conference commissioner "Promotes it".....are you kidding? Unbelievable quote. Obviously Thompson doesn't share those same feelings as Banowsky and I cant imagine any other conference commissioner feeling that way either. How about doing everything in your power to keep the schools you really want to make the conference better in the long run over the above quote? Makes no sense to me unless Banowsky was actually happy to see some of those schools leave.

I completely agree with you. As Oldtiger says, Banowsky has consistently said these comments. I think he has been consistently wrong. Who knows how much of his attitude has led to losing half of his conference in 16 months.

Good point. That's not counting what we might lose in the future. His comments just come off as having no backbone.

I'll openly admit that it didn't hurt my feelings to see several schools leave but it shocked me to hear Banowsky say that.

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Are we talking about the same commissioner who let the original departing schools go without paying an exit fee, & let them make it up by scheduling their former conference-mates?

Or the one who totally misread & misplayed the SMU-TCU situation & let TCU bolt to the MWC as they were adamantly against SMU?

What about the commissioner who never gets out of his office & makes a statement to the member schools unless HIS job is threatened?

How about the commissioner who makes 825K per year, which is more than the SEC's Mike Slive? Is that in the Conference's best interest? Is he REALLY worth that much per year?

If some of you folks think BB is the best one C-USA could ever have, we must be on different planets.

(01-13-2013 05:11 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  .
Are we talking about the same commissioner who let the original departing schools go without paying an exit fee, & let them make it up by scheduling their former conference-mates?

Or the one who totally misread & misplayed the SMU-TCU situation & let TCU bolt to the MWC as they were adamantly against SMU?

What about the commissioner who never gets out of his office & makes a statement to the member schools unless HIS job is threatened?

How about the commissioner who makes 825K per year, which is more than the SEC's Mike Slive? Is that in the Conference's best interest? Is he REALLY worth that much per year?

If some of you folks think BB is the best one C-USA could ever have, we must be on different planets.

Agreed.....a small time commissioner

(01-13-2013 10:25 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  WMG

Is palo pinto county part of the dfw metroplex?

No, but Parker County where Weatherford is located and also serves as its county seat is in the DFW Metroplex.

The DFW Metroplex will have 10 million citizens before some of you who just graduated from your respective colleges turn 40. Water for 10M in northern Texas? It will come from the Gulf of Mexico after its been converted from salt water to fresh as was done where my late dad worked, ie Dow Chemical Company (Freeport, TX) in the early 60's. That salt water conversion plant was closed because of the expense but expense will not be a factor for people when they need water.

All that fresh water from the GoM will be piped up to DFW in a pipeline. Wouldn't surprise me to see you Okie's get in on some of that Gulf "fresh" water, too.

GMG!

(01-13-2013 05:11 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  .
Are we talking about the same commissioner who let the original departing schools go without paying an exit fee, & let them make it up by scheduling their former conference-mates?

Or the one who totally misread & misplayed the SMU-TCU situation & let TCU bolt to the MWC as they were adamantly against SMU?

What about the commissioner who never gets out of his office & makes a statement to the member schools unless HIS job is threatened?

How about the commissioner who makes 825K per year, which is more than the SEC's Mike Slive? Is that in the Conference's best interest? Is he REALLY worth that much per year?

If some of you folks think BB is the best one C-USA could ever have, we must be on different planets.

Interesting.

(01-13-2013 06:30 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 05:11 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  .
Are we talking about the same commissioner who let the original departing schools go without paying an exit fee, & let them make it up by scheduling their former conference-mates?

Or the one who totally misread & misplayed the SMU-TCU situation & let TCU bolt to the MWC as they were adamantly against SMU?

What about the commissioner who never gets out of his office & makes a statement to the member schools unless HIS job is threatened?

How about the commissioner who makes 825K per year, which is more than the SEC's Mike Slive? Is that in the Conference's best interest? Is he REALLY worth that much per year?

If some of you folks think BB is the best one C-USA could ever have, we must be on different planets.

Interesting.

very

(01-13-2013 05:11 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  .
Are we talking about the same commissioner who let the original departing schools go without paying an exit fee, & let them make it up by scheduling their former conference-mates?

Or the one who totally misread & misplayed the SMU-TCU situation & let TCU bolt to the MWC as they were adamantly against SMU?

What about the commissioner who never gets out of his office & makes a statement to the member schools unless HIS job is threatened?

How about the commissioner who makes 825K per year, which is more than the SEC's Mike Slive? Is that in the Conference's best interest? Is he REALLY worth that much per year?

If some of you folks think BB is the best one C-USA could ever have, we must be on different planets.

Holy CUSA Batman!
$825k a year! We are not getting much return on our investment. Time to cash-in and look for another more promising future.
Really, it seems we are our own worse enemy with this guy running the show and stealing us blind while he does. Maybe it's time to join the SB.

(01-13-2013 05:44 PM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 10:25 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  WMG

Is palo pinto county part of the dfw metroplex?

No, but Parker County where Weatherford is located and also serves as its county seat is in the DFW Metroplex.

The DFW Metroplex will have 10 million citizens before some of you who just graduated from your respective colleges turn 40. Water for 10M in northern Texas? It will come from the Gulf of Mexico after its been converted from salt water to fresh as was done where my late dad worked, ie Dow Chemical Company (Freeport, TX) in the early 60's. That salt water conversion plant was closed because of the expense but expense will not be a factor for people when they need water.

All that fresh water from the GoM will be piped up to DFW in a pipeline. Wouldn't surprise me to see you Okie's get in on some of that Gulf "fresh" water, too.

GMG!

If the current drought cycle continues too much longer you may be right.

(01-13-2013 05:11 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  .
Are we talking about the same commissioner who let the original departing schools go without paying an exit fee, & let them make it up by scheduling their former conference-mates?

Or the one who totally misread & misplayed the SMU-TCU situation & let TCU bolt to the MWC as they were adamantly against SMU?

What about the commissioner who never gets out of his office & makes a statement to the member schools unless HIS job is threatened?

How about the commissioner who makes 825K per year, which is more than the SEC's Mike Slive? Is that in the Conference's best interest? Is he REALLY worth that much per year?

If some of you folks think BB is the best one C-USA could ever have, we must be on different planets.

If they paid me $825k a year to suck, I would hide under my desk and pray to God that everyone forgot I existed, too.

(01-13-2013 09:40 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  I know some people like to bash on Banowsky and I've never really understood why. Then I read this quote in reference to departing schools really leaves me scratching my head.

In reference to current schools moving to other conferences.....

“We don't really try and deter that,” Banowsky said. “In fact, we promote it. We want the schools in our conference to be the very best they can possibly be.”

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_n...z2HrkTkCs8

What the hell is this guy thinking? The conference commissioner "Promotes it".....are you kidding? Unbelievable quote. Obviously Thompson doesn't share those same feelings as Banowsky and I cant imagine any other conference commissioner feeling that way either. How about doing everything in your power to keep the schools you really want to make the conference better in the long run over the above quote? Makes no sense to me unless Banowsky was actually happy to see some of those schools leave.

After reviewing USM's 2013 home schedule vs. ECU's 2013 home schedule, part of Banowsky's "promoting" must include favorable schedules for those teams who are leaving.

(01-13-2013 10:25 AM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 10:06 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  I keep noticing that schools that are leaving keep frequenting this board, too. Why is that?

Ummm..., because the fans of those schools are still in the conference. The question is why are you frequenting this board, because your school is technically not in the conference yet.

I still come over here (a little less now) because Memphis is still in CUSA and what goes on here does affect my school. I originally said I'd stick around on trivial posts after we move, but I'm not so sure I want to sift through all the hate to find something worth putting my two cents in on.

I also frequent the BE board, because as an incoming member, what goes on with the BE also affects my school.

In this period of flux, all types of schools with a stake in CUSA activities (staying, leaving, incoming) should be welcome posters, as long as they can keep it civil.

(01-13-2013 09:50 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  I bet he wishes he could take that one back unless we (or the media) really didn't get the context it was said. Sometimes the media and the internet misinterpret, you know?

He has said the same thing on multiple occasions, so I think you can rule out that it was a misstatement. When you think about it, what would the negative impact of the statement be? Prospective schools that are looking for an eventual path to a big payday (Big East, Big 12, etc)? The schools that are considering leaving? The conference schools that remain?

The remaining schools in the conference know damn well that the others have been scheming to leave early and often (mostly because all of them, with the perplexing exception of Rice, have been doing the same thing for years) and could not possibly be swayed by Banowski. Prospective schools will look on the comments favorably, and the ones that are leaving couldn't give a crap. It's only the fans that get their panties bunched up about Banowski's comments, but I don't think it's ever a bad thing to encourage ambition within an organization, and that's really all that his remarks are geared towards.

(01-13-2013 05:44 PM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote:  The DFW Metroplex will have 10 million citizens before some of you who just graduated from your respective colleges turn 40. Water for 10M in northern Texas? It will come from the Gulf of Mexico after its been converted from salt water to fresh as was done where my late dad worked, ie Dow Chemical Company (Freeport, TX) in the early 60's. That salt water conversion plant was closed because of the expense but expense will not be a factor for people when they need water.

All that fresh water from the GoM will be piped up to DFW in a pipeline. Wouldn't surprise me to see you Okie's get in on some of that Gulf "fresh" water, too.

Cost of transport is the interesting question to me. As nuclear plants are one of the more efficient ways of running a desalination plant, I wonder if the fact that plans were shelved for the South Texas plant would also have an impact in desalination plans. Water for much of Texas seems feasible due to proximity to the coast, but it seems to me that the midwest could be in for bigger problems when water resources become overtaxed.