Sux, he didn't get much of a chance, 6 appearances, one of them was one minute. His efficiency rating wasn't all that good, but his time was so limited it's hard to get into any kind of groove. He didn't shoot much, so it wasn't that he was forcing.

Hopefully he catches on elsewhere.

As for the Grizz, they could do worse. Yes, they need a shooter, but is someone like Andy Rautens (D League shooter) really going to help? It's unlikely CDR would help either I suppose. I have just always loved his game, and I don't get why a team would want to keep Jae Crowder, or Dahntay Jones over CDR.

Oh well, it's the Mavs loss, they suck anyway.

you guys are to CDR what GAtor people are to the Tebow guy

(01-07-2013 03:22 PM)fsquid Wrote:  you guys are to CDR what GAtor people are to the Tebow guy

Bingo.

k2 - how is a guy who scores as a slasher going to help unclog the lane? CDR is NOT a shooter that would make defenders leave their assignments.

i think saying cdr would be a decent 9th man is a little different from saying somebody who can't throw the ball should be a starting nfl quarterback.

CDR has been productive and was rated the #1 prospect in the d league. He was scoring in the D league. He is, by that metric, having been waived now, the best player available the grizz can sign.

So yes, signing CDR to provide scoring makes a sh!t-ton of sense. Unless you know of somebody like Ray Allen or Monta Ellis on the waiver wire

(01-07-2013 04:49 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i think saying cdr would be a decent 9th man is a little different from saying somebody who can't throw the ball should be a starting nfl quarterback.

CDR has been productive and was rated the #1 prospect in the d league. He was scoring in the D league. He is, by that metric, having been waived now, the best player available the grizz can sign.

So yes, signing CDR to provide scoring makes a ****-ton of sense. Unless you know of somebody like Ray Allen or Monta Ellis on the waiver wire

No it doesn't. You're over-simplifying the needs of the Grizz to suit your point or you just don't understand the wide variety of scoring that teams need. Grizz need outside shooters to space the floor. CDR is a slasher with a weak outside game.

Please, tell me how exactly a slasher is going to help unclog the lane? Don't worry...I'll wait...

(01-07-2013 06:34 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 04:49 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i think saying cdr would be a decent 9th man is a little different from saying somebody who can't throw the ball should be a starting nfl quarterback.

CDR has been productive and was rated the #1 prospect in the d league. He was scoring in the D league. He is, by that metric, having been waived now, the best player available the grizz can sign.

So yes, signing CDR to provide scoring makes a ****-ton of sense. Unless you know of somebody like Ray Allen or Monta Ellis on the waiver wire

No it doesn't. You're over-simplifying the needs of the Grizz to suit your point or you just don't understand the wide variety of scoring that teams need. Grizz need outside shooters to space the floor. CDR is a slasher with a weak outside game.

Please, tell me how exactly a slasher is going to help unclog the lane? Don't worry...I'll wait...

the spread the floor thing only helps when both Gasol and Randolph are in the game. A lot of the time, our 2nd unit only has one or the other.

When Speights or Arthur are in as our 2nd big, they're more spot up mid-range shooters than true low post players like Zach and Marc, who thrive getting the ball on the block. As such, spacing is not a big issue because Arthur and Speights aren't always going to the low block to get touches.

The Grizz definitely need 3 point shooters, I don't argue that. But they just need points. They need people who can put the ball in the basket somehow.

Finally, when a slasher drives near the lane, he sucks the defense off of the low post players and can allow for easy buckets, either by kicking to say Gasol at the free throw line or someone on the wing for an open look.

CDR is not the ideal player, but he's not a bad option either

(01-07-2013 06:34 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 04:49 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i think saying cdr would be a decent 9th man is a little different from saying somebody who can't throw the ball should be a starting nfl quarterback.

CDR has been productive and was rated the #1 prospect in the d league. He was scoring in the D league. He is, by that metric, having been waived now, the best player available the grizz can sign.

So yes, signing CDR to provide scoring makes a ****-ton of sense. Unless you know of somebody like Ray Allen or Monta Ellis on the waiver wire

No it doesn't. You're over-simplifying the needs of the Grizz to suit your point or you just don't understand the wide variety of scoring that teams need. Grizz need outside shooters to space the floor. CDR is a slasher with a weak outside game.

Please, tell me how exactly a slasher is going to help unclog the lane? Don't worry...I'll wait...

Grizz are boring....bring in a Tiger

(01-07-2013 01:22 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 01:21 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 12:40 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 09:45 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  pick him up Grizz - start with a 10 day

I don't want CDR near the Grizz, but it never fails...if there is a Tiger in the draft/free agent/on the trade block there will be some Tiger fan letting their fandom leak into their Grizz fandom who says "PICK HIM UP GRIZZ! WE NEED HIM!".

No, the Grizz do not need CDR, Stephens, Adonis, etc.

I would take all of them over freaking Thabeet.

Thabeet has already been cut

Oh I know. I was just pointing out that we used a top 5 pick on Thabeet, yet some want us to avoid a player like DJ. DJ would need less developing than Thabeet.

My wife and I went to a game where Thabeet played. He looked completely lost out there.

(01-07-2013 06:50 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 06:34 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 04:49 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i think saying cdr would be a decent 9th man is a little different from saying somebody who can't throw the ball should be a starting nfl quarterback.

CDR has been productive and was rated the #1 prospect in the d league. He was scoring in the D league. He is, by that metric, having been waived now, the best player available the grizz can sign.

So yes, signing CDR to provide scoring makes a ****-ton of sense. Unless you know of somebody like Ray Allen or Monta Ellis on the waiver wire

No it doesn't. You're over-simplifying the needs of the Grizz to suit your point or you just don't understand the wide variety of scoring that teams need. Grizz need outside shooters to space the floor. CDR is a slasher with a weak outside game.

Please, tell me how exactly a slasher is going to help unclog the lane? Don't worry...I'll wait...

the spread the floor thing only helps when both Gasol and Randolph are in the game. A lot of the time, our 2nd unit only has one or the other.

When Speights or Arthur are in as our 2nd big, they're more spot up mid-range shooters than true low post players like Zach and Marc, who thrive getting the ball on the block. As such, spacing is not a big issue because Arthur and Speights aren't always going to the low block to get touches.

The Grizz definitely need 3 point shooters, I don't argue that. But they just need points. They need people who can put the ball in the basket somehow.

Finally, when a slasher drives near the lane, he sucks the defense off of the low post players and can allow for easy buckets, either by kicking to say Gasol at the free throw line or someone on the wing for an open look.

CDR is not the ideal player, but he's not a bad option either

What say you Tiger89? Sounds reasonable to me and you said you'd be waiting. And in your response, please include an option that would be better than CDR ... and don't say Andy Rautens

(01-07-2013 07:27 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 06:50 PM)jgardne Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 06:34 PM)tigerfansincebirth89 Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 04:49 PM)jgardne Wrote:  i think saying cdr would be a decent 9th man is a little different from saying somebody who can't throw the ball should be a starting nfl quarterback.

CDR has been productive and was rated the #1 prospect in the d league. He was scoring in the D league. He is, by that metric, having been waived now, the best player available the grizz can sign.

So yes, signing CDR to provide scoring makes a ****-ton of sense. Unless you know of somebody like Ray Allen or Monta Ellis on the waiver wire

No it doesn't. You're over-simplifying the needs of the Grizz to suit your point or you just don't understand the wide variety of scoring that teams need. Grizz need outside shooters to space the floor. CDR is a slasher with a weak outside game.

Please, tell me how exactly a slasher is going to help unclog the lane? Don't worry...I'll wait...

the spread the floor thing only helps when both Gasol and Randolph are in the game. A lot of the time, our 2nd unit only has one or the other.

When Speights or Arthur are in as our 2nd big, they're more spot up mid-range shooters than true low post players like Zach and Marc, who thrive getting the ball on the block. As such, spacing is not a big issue because Arthur and Speights aren't always going to the low block to get touches.

The Grizz definitely need 3 point shooters, I don't argue that. But they just need points. They need people who can put the ball in the basket somehow.

Finally, when a slasher drives near the lane, he sucks the defense off of the low post players and can allow for easy buckets, either by kicking to say Gasol at the free throw line or someone on the wing for an open look.

CDR is not the ideal player, but he's not a bad option either

What say you Tiger89? Sounds reasonable to me and you said you'd be waiting. And in your response, please include an option that would be better than CDR ... and don't say Andy Rautens

I mean...it's a good reply...but it doesn't mean anything in regards to how a slasher unclogs a lane (which is what I said I'd wait on).

When Speights and Arthur are in, we rely on penetration by our guards to get them in space. That's not an issue on the team right now. The issue (as noted) is the lack of an outside game in all phases to create spacing and force the defense's hand.

Unfortunately, I don't think any problems can be solved via free agency and don't think anyone should be signed. With Hollinger coming in, I think it's just a matter of when (not if) they will deal Rudy and that's what needs to happen.

Hell sign him for 10 days....

(01-09-2013 01:43 AM)Dat.B.Me Wrote:  Hell sign him for 10 days....

we signed Carney to a 10 day or two