(01-07-2013 08:44 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  If it is fact that no teams can play the FEF except versus Memphis, then a neutral site UTK vs ? game won't draw 5K in some smaller arena unless its AR or OM. And AR isn't going to give up their home game to play in Memphis - and IMO neither will UTK. OM might since they don't draw at home & they might get 7K and would probably prefer to play in N MS anyway. This presence in Memphis, at least for BB is just big talk. Even in FB these days UTK plays 2nd fiddle to just about all of the top SEC schools (AL, LSU, UGA, UF) & even OM in the Memphis area. UTK isn't even in the top half of the SEC anymore for FB & below that in BB. Even their recruting classes don't rate the top half.

If we can win consistently in FB, keep the BB program at a top level, Memphis will become known as the real university of Tennessee! ...and the hate & whining will be prominate.

Arkansas might move an annual game if it meant more money for them. Just like how Mizzou and Illinois play an annual game in St. Louis.

I don't think an Mississippi basketball game in Memphis means anything to Mississippi fans.

Whether either team had success, I don't care. I don't like either school. I just wanna churn the economy.

Ole Miss played a few games in the Pyramid early on

(01-07-2013 08:35 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  We had a big argument thread about this a year or so ago.

The University of Memphis has right of refusal for any college game at FedExForum...

But if Memphis can get the annual Tennessee-Knoxville / Arkansas basketball game, the U of M should allow it.

That game would be good for the Memphis economy and recruiting would not be adversely affected. I personally wouldn't care about the game at all, but if it brought 10,000 regional fans into the city, it'll be worth it.

Memphis is a big city... Not just some university town. Tourism is big business, and we want the $EC basketball tourney. Having an annual game would look good towards that goal, as well as attracting the Sun Belt and more NCAA tourneys.

Agreed. With ALL the high profile SEC teams that have played Memphis here, they really haven't made much of a dent. There have been moments, one or two bball players here or there, but no sustained exodus. A neutral site game here in Memphis (regardless who it is, as long as they travel), maximizes non-local revenue. Memphis is an obvious location for the kinds of games that Chicago, St. Louis, and Dallas host, in both bball and fball.

(01-07-2013 08:44 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  If it is fact that no teams can play the FEF except versus Memphis, then a neutral site UTK vs ? game won't draw 5K in some smaller arena unless its AR or OM. And AR isn't going to give up their home game to play in Memphis - and IMO neither will UTK. OM might since they don't draw at home & they might get 7K and would probably prefer to play in N MS anyway. This presence in Memphis, at least for BB is just big talk. Even in FB these days UTK plays 2nd fiddle to just about all of the top SEC schools (AL, LSU, UGA, UF) & even OM in the Memphis area. UTK isn't even in the top half of the SEC anymore for FB & below that in BB. Even their recruting classes don't rate the top half.

If we can win consistently in FB, keep the BB program at a top level, Memphis will become known as the real university of Tennessee! ...and the hate & whining will be prominate.

Yes Arkansas would if the money was right. This is a school that has an arraignment to play Tamu in Dallas every year. Hell, they once played #1Jordan and the TarHills in Pine Bluff at the convention center. Smith wouldn't come to Fayetteville. Ark won.

I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

KY-U has played many games in Louisville as 'neutral site' games ... it has not hurt Louisville ...

Like I said if you dolts are so keen on keep utk out of Memphis, offer to play every game in Knoxville or to play our 'home' games of the series in Nashville .. I am sure the vols will get over their desire of playing in Memphis ..

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

Thompson-Boling is an on campus crappy monstrosity, and Knoxville is not considered a major city.

No one is trying to have a game at the Elma Roane Fieldhouse...

Trying to have a game in the City's NBA quality arena.

I bet NC State wouldn't stop Kentucky from playing Clemson at the Raleigh arena where the Hurricanes play.

(01-07-2013 11:33 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

Thompson-Boling is an on campus crappy monstrosity, and Knoxville is not considered a major city.

No one is trying to have a game at the Elma Roane Fieldhouse...

Trying to have a game in the City's NBA quality arena.

I bet NC State wouldn't stop Kentucky from playing Clemson at the Raleigh arena where the Hurricanes play.

If the city gave the UofM contractual right of approval for other college basketball, then the UofM should deny it if they don't want UT playing here.

The only reason the city was ahead on their bond payments was the greater than projected revenue for tiger games. The city has benefited from Memphis playing there, we should receive some concessions as a major tenant.

(01-07-2013 10:06 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 08:44 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  If it is fact that no teams can play the FEF except versus Memphis, then a neutral site UTK vs ? game won't draw 5K in some smaller arena unless its AR or OM. And AR isn't going to give up their home game to play in Memphis - and IMO neither will UTK. OM might since they don't draw at home & they might get 7K and would probably prefer to play in N MS anyway. This presence in Memphis, at least for BB is just big talk. Even in FB these days UTK plays 2nd fiddle to just about all of the top SEC schools (AL, LSU, UGA, UF) & even OM in the Memphis area. UTK isn't even in the top half of the SEC anymore for FB & below that in BB. Even their recruting classes don't rate the top half.

If we can win consistently in FB, keep the BB program at a top level, Memphis will become known as the real university of Tennessee! ...and the hate & whining will be prominate.

Yes Arkansas would if the money was right. This is a school that has an arraignment to play Tamu in Dallas every year. Hell, they once played #1Jordan and the TarHills in Pine Bluff at the convention center. Smith wouldn't come to Fayetteville. Ark won.

Playing TAMU in Dallas is a big draw because TAMU has a big Dallas area following. AR playing in Memphis is not going to be a big draw unless they are playing Memphis. UTK certainly doesn't have much BB draw in Memphis and AR maybe a little more, given east AR so close. They (UTK vs AR) "might" have a reasonable crowd in the N MS area....

(01-07-2013 11:41 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 11:33 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

Thompson-Boling is an on campus crappy monstrosity, and Knoxville is not considered a major city.

No one is trying to have a game at the Elma Roane Fieldhouse...

Trying to have a game in the City's NBA quality arena.

I bet NC State wouldn't stop Kentucky from playing Clemson at the Raleigh arena where the Hurricanes play.

If the city gave the UofM contractual right of approval for other college basketball, then the UofM should deny it if they don't want UT playing here.

The only reason the city was ahead on their bond payments was the greater than projected revenue for tiger games. The city has benefited from Memphis playing there, we should receive some concessions as a major tenant.

If we have the right to keep NCAA games out (I have no idea if we do or dont) Then we shoulduse it to our advantage ... It is called leverage.

But

utk ain't going to play a game here unless it is against us or unless some idiot promoter pays them bank to have a game flop here ..

UT can play at CBHS.

(01-07-2013 11:41 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 11:33 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

Thompson-Boling is an on campus crappy monstrosity, and Knoxville is not considered a major city.

No one is trying to have a game at the Elma Roane Fieldhouse...

Trying to have a game in the City's NBA quality arena.

I bet NC State wouldn't stop Kentucky from playing Clemson at the Raleigh arena where the Hurricanes play.

If the city gave the UofM contractual right of approval for other college basketball, then the UofM should deny it if they don't want UT playing here.

The only reason the city was ahead on their bond payments was the greater than projected revenue for tiger games. The city has benefited from Memphis playing there, we should receive some concessions as a major tenant.

If a promoter cut the University of Memphis a check to approve a college event, the University of Memphis should jump on it.

(01-07-2013 10:06 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 08:44 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  If it is fact that no teams can play the FEF except versus Memphis, then a neutral site UTK vs ? game won't draw 5K in some smaller arena unless its AR or OM. And AR isn't going to give up their home game to play in Memphis - and IMO neither will UTK. OM might since they don't draw at home & they might get 7K and would probably prefer to play in N MS anyway. This presence in Memphis, at least for BB is just big talk. Even in FB these days UTK plays 2nd fiddle to just about all of the top SEC schools (AL, LSU, UGA, UF) & even OM in the Memphis area. UTK isn't even in the top half of the SEC anymore for FB & below that in BB. Even their recruting classes don't rate the top half.

If we can win consistently in FB, keep the BB program at a top level, Memphis will become known as the real university of Tennessee! ...and the hate & whining will be prominate.

Yes Arkansas would if the money was right. This is a school that has an arraignment to play Tamu in Dallas every year. Hell, they once played #1Jordan and the TarHills in Pine Bluff at the convention center. Smith wouldn't come to Fayetteville. Ark won.

A&M and Arkansas worked out a two year break in the Jerryworld game so each could have a home and home now that A&M is in the $EC. After Arkansas' home game next year, they resume the game in Jerryworld.

And by the way, that is a 50/50 Ark/A&M split, with Arky maybe having the edge.

(01-07-2013 11:29 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

KY-U has played many games in Louisville as 'neutral site' games ... it has not hurt Louisville ...

Like I said if you dolts are so keen on keep utk out of Memphis, offer to play every game in Knoxville or to play our 'home' games of the series in Nashville .. I am sure the vols will get over their desire of playing in Memphis ..

First, if you're going to call someone a dolt, at least do it with proper spelling and grammar, you dolt.

Second, Louisville didn't allow Kentucky to come in and play on their home court recently, which is what this discussion is about. That game was played at Freedom Hall once Louisville moved to the Yum Center. Furthermore, the state of kentucky owns Freedom Hall, not the City of Louisville.

(01-07-2013 11:33 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

Thompson-Boling is an on campus crappy monstrosity, and Knoxville is not considered a major city.

No one is trying to have a game at the Elma Roane Fieldhouse...

Trying to have a game in the City's NBA quality arena.

I bet NC State wouldn't stop Kentucky from playing Clemson at the Raleigh arena where the Hurricanes play.

Has NC State allowed teams to do things like this before? Do they have a similar protection in their contract with PNC? Why exactly do you think this?

(01-07-2013 12:38 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 11:41 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 11:33 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

Thompson-Boling is an on campus crappy monstrosity, and Knoxville is not considered a major city.

No one is trying to have a game at the Elma Roane Fieldhouse...

Trying to have a game in the City's NBA quality arena.

I bet NC State wouldn't stop Kentucky from playing Clemson at the Raleigh arena where the Hurricanes play.

If the city gave the UofM contractual right of approval for other college basketball, then the UofM should deny it if they don't want UT playing here.

The only reason the city was ahead on their bond payments was the greater than projected revenue for tiger games. The city has benefited from Memphis playing there, we should receive some concessions as a major tenant.

If a promoter cut the University of Memphis a check to approve a college event, the University of Memphis should jump on it.

Depends on the size of the check.

(01-07-2013 01:10 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 11:29 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:51 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:35 AM)WaywardMemphian Wrote:  

(01-07-2013 10:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I don't care if they play in Memphis, they're just not playing at the Forum. That's out house.

Technically it's the Tiger's house on the days they use it. Any unused day it's ultimately the tax payers who are on the hook for the bonds house and if someone should want to pay to use it, the offer should be seriously entertained. Is this not the city that flirted with the notion of suing the NBA over cancelled games due to financial harm to paying back the bonds? If a team truely wants a house of their own, they should build it and maintain it. It's more feasible for The Tigers to have an on campus arena than a football stadium. How about the silly notion of graduating on campus.

Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

As long as Memphis has its contractual protections, the FEF is Memphis' house. I can't imagine UT allowing Kentucky and UNC to play a neutral site game at TBA, nor Arkansas allowing a similar game in Fayetteville.

Now if we're talking about a 4 team double-header, in which Memphis is one of the teams playing, that's another story.

KY-U has played many games in Louisville as 'neutral site' games ... it has not hurt Louisville ...

Like I said if you dolts are so keen on keep utk out of Memphis, offer to play every game in Knoxville or to play our 'home' games of the series in Nashville .. I am sure the vols will get over their desire of playing in Memphis ..

First, if you're going to call someone a dolt, at least do it with proper spelling and grammar, you dolt.

Second, Louisville didn't allow Kentucky to come in and play on their home court recently, which is what this discussion is about. That game was played at Freedom Hall once Louisville moved to the Yum Center.

they play every year in Freedom Hall ... until the 2011-2012 year it was the home of UofL basketball ... it did not hurt UofL basketball a lot that I can see ...

btw---attendance has been going down each year for KY-U's neutral site game in Louisville --word is that it is poor opponents..

Quote:Once the BCA had a little shindig at the Pyramid with Arkansas, Memphis, Georgetown,Temple playing a twin bill. What if something like that was proposed again? To turn it down may be bad pub.

Memphis didn't play in that. Southern California played Temple and Arkansas played Georgetown. Memphis was in New York that week for the preseason NIT